Combat Mastery
Lightning Reflexes Rank 5
Deflection Rank 5
Precision Rank 5
Dual Wield Specialization Rank 5
Blade Flurry Rank 1
Combat Total: 21
Assassination Mastery
Improved Eviscerate Rank 3
Remorseless Attacks Rank 5
Malice Rank 5
Ruthlessness Rank 3
Murder Rank 2
Relentless Strikes Rank 1
Lethality Rank 5
Cold Blood Rank 1
Seal Fate Rank 5
Assassination Total: 30
right now they are all about stunlocking
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A sleep deprived Cysa Damerc stammered:
Next patch backstab rogues are gonna rape.right now they are all about stunlocking
No, no, they won't.
Realizing that you balanced an entire class around a bug kinda sucks... Hehe.
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Delphi Aegis spewed forth this undeniable truth:
No, no, they won't.Realizing that you balanced an entire class around a bug kinda sucks... Hehe.
Erm, the bug being fixed is what tuned up the damage. It has be balanced downward actually. Addy was getting 1.2-1.5k crits on me with 2300ish AC using ambush. In bear form with 9kish AC she was still critting for 700ish damage. Backstab damages were about half that IIRC. That's quite high really, and will allow them to slaughter any cloth/leather user they get the jump on for the most part.
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Talonus's fortune cookie read:
Erm, the bug being fixed is what tuned up the damage. It has be balanced downward actually. Addy was getting 1.2-1.5k crits on me with 2300ish AC using ambush. In bear form with 9kish AC she was still critting for 700ish damage. Backstab damages were about half that IIRC. That's quite high really, and will allow them to slaughter any cloth/leather user they get the jump on for the most part.
That's what I meant. The attack power bonus not scaling properly for ambush/backstab was a bug.. since it wasn't detected, they balanced the ambush/backstab damage accordingly. Since they fixed it, it's doing *way* too much damage. My mage GL was getting ambush critted for 2900 on test.. And he's exceedingly well equipped.
They DO realize this, and are proceeding to tone it down right now; Only real solution will be to either re-introduce the bug, scale down ambush/backstab percentile bonuses, or.. well, something.
Being able to garuntee a oneshot against a caster is severely overpowered.
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Delphi Aegis had this to say about John Romero:
Stuff
See, it sounded like you meant the opposite. That its bugged now and would be fixed. Mistook what you meant.
And wtf, 2900 ambush? How did that happen? I haven't heard of anymore than 1700ish.
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So quoth Talonus:
See, it sounded like you meant the opposite. That its bugged now and would be fixed. Mistook what you meant.And wtf, 2900 ambush? How did that happen? I haven't heard of anymore than 1700ish.
I know very little about highend daggers, but apparently the "best" one for ambush/backstab crits is from a rogue soloable quest or something; the people who transferred to test where awesomesauce material.. the kind of people who farm onyxia/MC because they have nothing better to do and all that, I wouldn't be suprised if they have better.
Cold blood + ambush = gg 
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Talonus had this to say about dark elf butts:
Addy must be informed of this quest. This way, she can kill me before cheap shot wears off even when I'm in bear form. Then again, her felstriker/distracting dagger combo hurts enough.
I'll ask our resident rogue about it later today.
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Delphi Aegis stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
I know very little about highend daggers, but apparently the "best" one for ambush/backstab crits is from a rogue soloable quest or something; the people who transferred to test where awesomesauce material.. the kind of people who farm onyxia/MC because they have nothing better to do and all that, I wouldn't be suprised if they have better.Cold blood + ambush = gg
That would be the barman's shanker (think that's what it's called), which rogues solo for fun. Technically it's better than felstriker, but I prefer my weapon combination more.
BTW Geeorn, that is a solid setup (30/21/0) for leveling. However, I'd go for something more like this, keeping the same basic setup:
Assassination Talents (30 points)
Malice - 5/5 points
Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.
Improved Eviscerate - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.
Ruthlessness - 3/3 points
Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.
Murder - 2/2 points
Increases your chance to hit while using your Sap, Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot abilities by 5%.
Relentless Strikes - 1/1 point
Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to restore 25 energy.
Lethality - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Ambush, Ghostly Strike, or Hemorrhage ability by 30%.
Improved Instant Poison - 5/5 points
Increases the chance to apply Instant Poison to your target by 10%.
Cold Blood - 1/1 point
When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Eviscerate by 100%.
Seal Fate - 5/5 points
Your critical strikes from abilities that add combo points have a 100% chance to add an additional combo point.
Combat Talents (21 points)
Improved Sinister Strike - 2/2 points
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5 Energy.
Lightning Reflexes - 3/5 points
Increases your Dodge chance by 3%.
Deflection - 5/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.
Precision - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 5%.
Riposte - 1/1 point
A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 150% weapon damage and disarms the target for 6 seconds.
Dual Wield Specialization - 4/5 points
Increases the damage done by your offhand weapon by 40%.
Blade Flurry - 1/1 point
Increases your attack speed by 20%. In addition, attacks strike an additional nearby opponent. Lasts 15 seconds.
Subtlety Talents (0 points)
None
I still have no idea what's going on in the rest of this thread though.
