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Topic: Is an educator's sexuality important?
frolicking imp
Pancake
posted 10-22-2004 10:38:37 AM
"House Representative Jim DeMint (R-SC) is the Republican candidate for
US Senate in South Carolina. On October 4th at a Charleston senatorial
debate, he declared that lesbians and gay men should NOT be allowed to
teach in South Carolinas public schools. He says this is in line with
the GOP platform of South Carolina. In backing his statement against
gay
and lesbian teachers, Rep. DeMint stated: "We need folks who are
teaching to represent our values," according to the Associated Press.
Over the weekend, Representative DeMint confirmed his comments to a
national audience on Meet The Press and refused to back down from them.
Take action today and let this Senate candidate and the RNC of South
Carolina know that these comments and policies are unacceptable,
hurtful
and morally wrong." -excpert from an email sent to me by SOC (student organizing commitee) brought to you by the GLBTA (Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgendered Association)


What is your opinion? Do you think the sexual orietation of the person teaching you matters? Does he have a valid arguement or just speaking gibberish?

Edit: I changed this to the Politics tag and changed the topic to keep it within rules of the Politics tag. Please take note of the rules regarding political conversations in the future.

LOG fucked around with this message on 10-22-2004 at 11:40 AM.

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JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 10-22-2004 10:39:28 AM
I can think of at least one thing wrong with this thread.
I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
frolicking imp
Pancake
posted 10-22-2004 10:41:12 AM
quote:
This one time, at JooJooFlop camp:
I can think of at least one thing wrong with this thread.


oh god what?

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Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 10-22-2004 10:41:39 AM
quote:
Check out the big brain on JooJooFlop!
I can think of at least one thing wrong with this thread.

SILENCE YOU FOOL!

Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 10-22-2004 10:59:41 AM
Can you post a link to the article please?
"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
frolicking imp
Pancake
posted 10-22-2004 11:02:23 AM
surely!

*what I posted originaly was this email I got. This link ^ however, is the atricle it pertains to*

frolicking imp fucked around with this message on 10-22-2004 at 11:06 AM.

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Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 10-22-2004 12:03:13 PM
quote:
frolicking imp had this to say about Tron:
lesbians and gay men should NOT be allowed to
teach in South Carolinas public schools. He says this is in line with
the GOP platform of South Carolina.


Bullshit. That is the platform of one idiot.
"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 10-22-2004 12:05:33 PM
Taking consideration of sexuality is just like considering a teacher's religion.

Its descrimination, and illegal.

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 10-22-2004 12:09:39 PM
So, they would rather have a teacher shortage than allow accredited people teacher's jobs? Hell, send them to Nevada, we have a shortage of teachers.

It's nobody's business what someone's sexual preference is. I had lesbian and gay teachers, and I enjoyed their classes better than some of my straight teachers that were obviously not getting any sex. They were going through divorces and took their personal shit out on us kids.

The gay and lesbian teachers didn't talk to us about their orientation, we didn't ask either. It didn't matter. They were cool and we liked them.

Maradon!
posted 10-22-2004 04:35:16 PM
quote:
This one time, at Azizza camp:
Bullshit. That is the platform of one idiot.

He was probably doing it purely for popular support. SC is the most radical right-wing state in the country, hands down.

The capitol building flies the rebel flag - THE REBEL FUCKING FLAG - under the state flag. I know this because I live in the state capitol and I see it all the time

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 10-22-2004 at 04:37 PM.

Damnati
Filthy
posted 10-22-2004 04:47:57 PM
That'd depend more on the teacher's attitude than sexuality. If he/she is spouting homosexual propaganda and making kids think that's "the way to be," yeah, it'd be a problem. No different than if a hetersexual teacher was doing the same thing. It would apply to literally any situation where a teacher is forcing one view as the "right" view as opposed to just teaching neutrally and offering the occasional opinion if a student asks. Decision based on sexuality alone is just wrong.
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Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 10-22-2004 04:56:08 PM
Mr. Parcelan
posted 10-22-2004 06:35:24 PM
I had a gay teacher.

He kicked me in the shins once and called me a loser, but other than that, no negative side effects.

IMO, the issue of sexuality should never be even brought up or mentioned in a professional sense.

Saying: "Yeah, I'd do her proper like an English Bulldog" is fine around the water cooler, but saying it to your boss and getting fired/hired for it is silly.

You're silly.

Suddar
posted 10-22-2004 06:40:23 PM
No.
Tareshinal
Pancake
posted 10-22-2004 06:53:08 PM
I hate how people think that just because someone is a homosexual that their kids are not safe around them and that they will try and rape the little boys. Please, these people just have no time on their hands and nothing else to complain about. Besides it's discrimitory to take someone's sexuality into consideration when they are being interviewed for a job, just as a religion.

Now in saying this it should also follow the same rules as religion (other wise it wouldn't fall into the same category)... you cant try to impose your beliefs on the children, your not allowed to display anything that is related to your beliefs, and it should not interfere with your co-workers or your students school day.

Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 10-22-2004 07:14:03 PM
quote:
Vorago spewed forth this undeniable truth:
Don't want their children to catch gay now do we?

oshi..

is that how I caught the Bi?? OMGZ time to sue!

Nae fucked around with this message on 10-22-2004 at 07:14 PM.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 10-22-2004 08:43:24 PM
First off...

Parents naturally want their kids to "be like us". That's the only real reason parents still get kids circumcised (deal with it; there have been "new" reasons every generation), it's the basic social reason parents want their kids exposed or not exposed to certain religious beliefs (Baptist vs Catholic, etc).

Secondly, a lot of parents aren't prepared to deal with the opposite side of what they consider to be a fundamental standpoint. That's why a lot of gay and bi people have problems with their parents...it comes as a shock to the parent. Why? because they never figured they'd have to deal with it.


Now I personally don't wouldn't want to be expected to talk to kids (outside a sex ed class) about my sexuality. I'm heterosexual, and I still think it would be inappropriate for me to have a discussion about my love life with my students. It would be just as inappropriate for me to discuss my love life if I was into men, or if I fancied boinking a dog every night. The subject matter is inappropriate outside of certain controlled situations.

As for singling gays out specifically, or establishing an anti-gay, anti-bi curriculum, the answer isn't to legislate. There are several generations out there at the top of the political food chain who did not grow up with accepting gays, and they're slow to grow old and die. Waiting it out and legislating is not the answer. The answer is to put your foot down, NOT legislate, and instead educate people.

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