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Pancake
posted 10-15-2004 12:04:34 PM
So, I'm really planning on just slapping together a new gaming system in the coming months with the next few paychecks I get. I'm probably going to end up tossing around 2k into the system all together. My main concern is what kind of mobo + cpu I should use in the new system.

Should I shell out the gobs of cash for an FX53 combo, or should I go to the Intel side of the equation? I haven't built a computer with an Intel chip, though I do regularly use two crap systems that'd be halfway decent if they would take some RAM (an HP and a Gateway, both with onboard video and gimp everything else) and a video card.

I'd really like to keep it around $500 for the mother board and CPU together. I know the prices of silicon are starting to jump up to cover the cost of the newest manufactuering processecs ect. Another concern is heat, I know the latest P4s are having quite an issue with heat, and I do live in Arizona with an ambient temperature close to the 80's on average. I'd consider going to an evap water cooling rig (the big bong kind of lookin things) seeing as it wouldn't be that hard to put it together, and it'd prove my geekness.

Also, good suggestions for what kind of RAM would be appriciated. I've never really cared about brand name, but I'd like to switch from my cheapass past to get something half decent for this computer. I plan on running around 1gb on it, to keep it fairly competative with the resource hogs that are coming out in the future.

I'm planning on running a RAID of WD or Hitatchi 250gb hard drives for bulk storage, and probably a seperate 120 or 80 for system files. I'm probably going to go for a Radeon 9800 A-I-W 128mb version for video chugging, unless the prices on super silicon drop some more, to justify the extra performance. I plan on having this computer fulfilling gaming and video capture duties, since I've never really been good at programming VCRs to work well with my digital cable.

TheOriginalZane
Pancake
posted 10-15-2004 12:19:56 PM
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Beta is in school impressed everyone with:
So, I'm really planning on just slapping together a new gaming system in the coming months with the next few paychecks I get. I'm probably going to end up tossing around 2k into the system all together. My main concern is what kind of mobo + cpu I should use in the new system.

Should I shell out the gobs of cash for an FX53 combo, or should I go to the Intel side of the equation? I haven't built a computer with an Intel chip, though I do regularly use two crap systems that'd be halfway decent if they would take some RAM (an HP and a Gateway, both with onboard video and gimp everything else) and a video card.

I'd really like to keep it around $500 for the mother board and CPU together. I know the prices of silicon are starting to jump up to cover the cost of the newest manufactuering processecs ect. Another concern is heat, I know the latest P4s are having quite an issue with heat, and I do live in Arizona with an ambient temperature close to the 80's on average. I'd consider going to an evap water cooling rig (the big bong kind of lookin things) seeing as it wouldn't be that hard to put it together, and it'd prove my geekness.

Also, good suggestions for what kind of RAM would be appriciated. I've never really cared about brand name, but I'd like to switch from my cheapass past to get something half decent for this computer. I plan on running around 1gb on it, to keep it fairly competative with the resource hogs that are coming out in the future.

I'm planning on running a RAID of WD or Hitatchi 250gb hard drives for bulk storage, and probably a seperate 120 or 80 for system files. I'm probably going to go for a Radeon 9800 A-I-W 128mb version for video chugging, unless the prices on super silicon drop some more, to justify the extra performance. I plan on having this computer fulfilling gaming and video capture duties, since I've never really been good at programming VCRs to work well with my digital cable.


well if you were going with an AMD Chip and not an Intel, I would say The 2500+ Barton. very overclockable. Put that in this Soyo Motherboard and it's as smooth as a babies butt.

In any case, Kingston and Cosair RAM is the best, hands down. And if your going to do any overclocking of your Processor, I'd buy the Zalman. Silence Is beautiful.

TheOriginalZane fucked around with this message on 10-15-2004 at 12:23 PM.

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Pancake
posted 10-15-2004 01:11:08 PM
I've already got a Barton 3k+ running in my current rig. While the suggestion is not a bad one, it's somewhat moot.

Am I silly for just wanting to do the new system then considering I already have the 3k? I have to swap out mobos though to get the bus's synced up right, my current mother board doesn't properly support the 333mhz bus, it's really weird. It has the jumpers for it and everything, but if I pop the bus up, windows will refuse to run at all. Even if I try to reformat and do a fesh install on the 333mhz bus.

I bought the the 3k+ with a different mobo that should be well compatable with it, I just haven't gotten around to swaping them out, as I'd have to obviously remove EVERYTHING in the system, because it's a cramped old beig box. I think I'll get a new roomier case before I pull it out.

Should I just drop the new rig nonsense and upgrade mine more? Currently it's:
Barton 3000+ 333mhz core(I think, might well be the 400, which would be why it doesn't like my board... the Fry's ad claimed it was the 333)
GeForce 4 Ti 4800
SB Audigy Gamer
Wester Digi 120gb 7200rpm 8mb cache (Primary)
Maxtor 80gb 7200 8mb cache (Storage, it runs crappy as hell for some reason)
1.25GB PC2100 over 3 DIMMs (512x2 256x1)
Generic DVD-ROM drive
TDK 48x burner


I guess it's really not that bad. I should swap out the boards and figure out what the actual FSB is and get some DDR that will sync up with it right? Or should I just abondon the one that I have and get a better like nForce 2 board? Suggestions?

Ehh, I probably should just upgrade a few components on my current rig, and build a second one out of the spare parts. I really just want a media center type PC to record shows that I'd like to watch but never have the time to. I never can pull myself away from my computer and always end up missing the air times for shows like MXC and 5th Gear and some other car shows that appeal to me(Monster Garage and Hi Rev Tuners, not Pimp My Ride).

Reynar
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posted 10-15-2004 02:17:58 PM
Just upgrade the video card and save yourself the money and time. You have a good system as it is.
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TheOriginalZane
Pancake
posted 10-15-2004 03:11:33 PM
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Reynar was naked while typing this:
Just upgrade the video card and save yourself the money and time. You have a good system as it is.

agreed.
If your really looking to spend money, just go 64.

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posted 10-15-2004 10:09:58 PM
Suggestions on the new video card?

I'm leaning towards an ATI 9800 Pro 128mb version (Seen enough benchmarks with .01% performance increases to not be able to justify the extra cash for the 256mb) off of a reputable pricewatch vender for $150. I could run out to my local Fry's Electronics and grab one this weekend for $200. Though my friend has been having some problems with his, though it's probably something else going bad or some weird software conflict, as he always seems able to play whatever game he wants without too much of a problem.

Any suggestions on a mobo to switch to if the one I have in the closet doesn't pan out for me?


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