Now, aside from the fact that the lady in the article turned the sentiment from:
"ex-convicts or people on parole should be allowed to vote regardless of transgressions because they paid for their crimes"
to:
"ex-convicts or people on parole should be allowed to vote regardless of transgressions because they paid for their crimes, especially if they're black"
do you think they should be allowed to vote? according to the article, 2 states allow ex-cons to vote already.
Personally, I'm not sure I would want someone who cannot follow the laws already in place, helping to make new ones.
They are American citizens just the same as you and I. They have made mistakes in their lives and paid for them already.
It is their RIGHT to vote, ex-con or not. I don't recall the constitution saying that you aren't allowed to vote if you've broken laws in the past, but I do recall it giving the right to vote.
Remember, ex-con means anything from the person that was in prison for a week for a minor crime to someone who was in there for years because of a more serious crime.
The ex-con has to live under the president, he/she should have a vote in the choice of said president.
I believe that someone put in prison for a long time, say, 15 or 20 years, for something like bombings, murder, etc, should have their voting right suspended.
Then again, that goes against the freedom of democracy.
I was going from the point of view that if someone cannot, or will not, respect the rules already in place, what right do they have in placing their rules on me?
Then again, I personally dont vote for several reasons. I dont believe it does anything (dont give me the tired line about how one vote makes a difference. Heard it, dont care.), I dont feel like choosing the lesser of two evils, life is going to be about the same for me at this point in time regardless of who wins, and general indifference to things that I dont understand, nor care to worry about.
So seeing that, my opinion on voting is a bit screwed anyway.
Now any citizen can vote it doesnt hold the same significance in many peoples eyes as it did back then. That being the case It seems harmless to allow ex felons to allow to apply to regain their voting status.
If you've been thrown in jail for a crime, you have already shown you do not have the judgement neccessary to make responcible choices that can effect the country. So you don't get to vote.
Personally, I don't think cons should get to vote again.
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Peanut butter ass Shaq Blindy booooze lime pole over bench lick:
The concept is this.If you've been thrown in jail for a crime, you have already shown you do not have the judgement neccessary to make responcible choices that can effect the country.
Since when do we deny the right to vote to someone just because we feel they won't use it wisely? Maybe we should go back to the original system where only white male landowners could vote, eh?
As long as we're revoking the right to vote based on assumed competence, I'd like to forbid liberals from voting since they're all clearly idiots.
Uh, no, sorry, wrong. Every american citizen has the right to vote. Period.
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When Maradon! says stuff like this, it proves there isn't a god:
Since when do we deny the right to vote to someone just because we feel they won't use it wisely? Maybe we should go back to the original system where only white male landowners could vote, eh?As long as we're revoking the right to vote based on assumed competence, I'd like to forbid liberals from voting since they're all clearly idiots.
Uh, no, sorry, wrong. Every american citizen has the right to vote. Period.
Technically, after you've been convicted of a felony, you aren't a citizen any more.
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Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Blindy who doth quote:
Technically, after you've been convicted of a felony, you aren't a citizen any more.
What the hell gave you that idea? That's not even remotely true. Being convicted of a felony and being deported are two completely different things.
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Blindy had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Technically, after you've been convicted of a felony, you aren't a citizen any more.
So if you get convincted of speeding, you're no longer a citizen and can get deported at will?
Oh okay.
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When Zaza says stuff like this, it proves there isn't a god:
So if you get convincted of speeding, you're no longer a citizen and can get deported at will?Oh okay.
Speeding isn't a felony.
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Blindy flip-flopped when they said:
Speeding isn't a felony.
So it isn't. Confused the translation, I blame language barrier.
I'd really like to see some backing for revoking of citizenship, even after the end of the sentence, though.
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I wish Maradon! would say this more often:
What the hell gave you that idea? That's not even remotely true. Being convicted of a felony and being deported are two completely different things.
Oh, is that why all us citizens are inalienably entitled to bear arms in the constitution, but people convicted of felonys can not?
Is that why all us citizens are entitled to fair non-preferential treatment in hiring practices, but it is perfectly legal to put "No Felony Convictions" on your list of requirements?
After a felony conviction, you are not a citizen any more. You never get those inalienable rights back. And it has nothing to do with immigration laws. Ask a lawyer and they will explain it to you better.
Personally I think they should be allowed to vote.
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Skaw came out of the closet to say:
Voting isn't a Right.
Yes it is. That's why anyone can do it. However, it's a right you can forfeit, just as you forfeit your right to liberty when you commit a felony and are placed in prison.
For the record, I don't think ex-cons should be denied the right to vote. If they've paid their debt to society and have been rehabilitated, why not?
