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Topic: The futility of donnie darko
diadem
eet bugz
posted 07-29-2004 11:08:28 PM
warning: spoilers

Ok. So manipulated by frank, he sacrifices himself to save the girl.

But she'll die anyhow. She came to the party becuase her pschyo dad killed her mom. So she could just have nowhere to go and die too anyhow killed by her dad instead of by frank.

Yet the whole time he's in the past with the memories of what would happen in the future. He could just not get himself into a situation that gets her killed and even do a butterfly-effect type of scenario. BUt he just dies. Granted he's not exactly mentally stable at that point, but the thought should have crossed his mind. The fact that the engien hit him in the first place shows that preserving the timeline isn't an important factor.

The only advantage I can think of is him wanting to become a ghost like Frank was.

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Sepia
Pancake
posted 07-30-2004 12:46:47 AM
Yeah..crazy movie! I just saw it the other day. I really really really love it, although I hardly understood it. But Suddar managed to explain some of it to me. It's still a big mystery though..
Monica
I've got an owie on my head :(
posted 07-30-2004 12:47:58 AM
I watched it at a friend's house awhile back... I think it kinda went over my head.
Lashanna
noob
posted 07-30-2004 01:00:26 AM
quote:
We were all impressed when Monica wrote:
I watched it at a friend's house awhile back... I think it kinda went over my head.

Warning, the following contains possibly inflammatory material. It is, however, just my opinion.
I think it's highly over rated. In my opinion, it's one of those pieces of entertainment that a 13-16 year old will think they see the beginnings and endings of the greatest philosophy in, and spout it off until the next Chuck Palahniuk novel comes out.

Lashanna fucked around with this message on 07-30-2004 at 01:01 AM.

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Maradon!
posted 07-30-2004 01:04:12 AM
quote:
Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Lashanna who doth quote:
Warning, the following contains possibly inflammatory material. It is, however, just my opinion.
I think it's highly over rated. In my opinion, it's one of those pieces of entertainment that a 13-16 year old will think they see the beginnings and endings of the greatest philosophy in, and spout it off until the next Chuck Palahniuk novel comes out.

You and Lyinar can go have an I-hate-donny-darko party somewhere.

Lashanna
noob
posted 07-30-2004 01:09:28 AM
quote:
This one time, at Maradon! camp:
You and Lyinar can go have an I-hate-donny-darko party somewhere.

Awesome. Seriously, no need to complain at me or anything, I don't HATE the movie. I guess it could be entertaining. I'm just saying I think it's way overrated in the realm of "philosophical movies that... really make you think, huh?"

Certainly, nobody should feel stupid if they "don't get it."

Lashanna fucked around with this message on 07-30-2004 at 01:11 AM.

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Maradon!
posted 07-30-2004 01:12:42 AM
quote:
Peanut butter ass Shaq Lashanna booooze lime pole over bench lick:
Awesome. Seriously, no need to complain at me or anything, I don't HATE the movie. I guess it could be entertaining. I'm just saying I think it's way overrated in the realm of "philosophical movies that... really make you think, huh?"

I just took the movie for face value, the way someone might look at a painting.

It presents no redeemable philosophical moral, no, but that doesn't affect how good a story it is.

Sepia
Pancake
posted 07-30-2004 01:14:58 AM
quote:
Lashanna had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Awesome. Seriously, no need to complain at me or anything, I don't HATE the movie. I guess it could be entertaining. I'm just saying I think it's way overrated in the realm of "philosophical movies that... really make you think, huh?"

Certainly, nobody should feel stupid if they "don't get it."


I can't say I don't agree with you. In that sense that movie IS overrated if you think about it, along with The Fight Club and whatnot. But it's still totally awesome and I just love it all because it's so bittersweet and beautiful. I'm lame like that.

Lashanna
noob
posted 07-30-2004 01:16:42 AM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Maradon!!
I just took the movie for face value, the way someone might look at a painting.

It presents no redeemable philosophical moral, no, but that doesn't affect how good a story it is.


I never said I disliked the movie. Rather I hate the people who think Frank is on level with Siddartha Gautama or something.

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Maradon!
posted 07-30-2004 01:16:46 AM
quote:
sepiaing:
along with The Fight Club and whatnot.

eh, no, fight club isn't in the same category. The plot of Fight Club is actually based around accurate Taoism, and it's lessons do translate to real life morals.

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 07-30-2004 at 01:17 AM.

Lashanna
noob
posted 07-30-2004 01:18:59 AM
quote:
Maradon! enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
eh, no, fight club isn't in the same category. The plot of Fight Club is actually based around accurate Taoism, and it's lessons do translate to real life morals.

I did like Fight Club alot more, and I am fond of it, but it still seems to attract the same High School Philosophers.

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Monica
I've got an owie on my head :(
posted 07-30-2004 01:20:44 AM
I wasn't really even looking for any sort of deeper meaning... I just didn't get it. I mean seriously. It just left me really confused and feeling like I must have missed a significant event in it or something.
Maradon!
posted 07-30-2004 01:21:03 AM
quote:
x--LashannaO-('-'Q) :
I did like Fight Club alot more, and I am fond of it, but it still seems to attract the same High School Philosophers.

So does any legitimate philosophy

Lashanna
noob
posted 07-30-2004 01:42:36 AM
quote:
Maradon! probably says this to all the girls:
So does any legitimate philosophy

But legitimate philosophy is legitimate.

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Dr Cysa
Angsty Mcangst
posted 07-30-2004 01:49:32 AM
Fight club was made to actually be philosophical though. The Idea behind the movie was a philosophy. its as Maradon! said. Fight Club is based off of Taosim(though or something similar, I don't remember which as I only saw part of the movie, but read the book for the rest of the details).
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Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 07-30-2004 01:57:45 AM
I've never seen Donnie Darko.

But then again, I've never seen the Jaws series.. or the godfather trilogy.

I'm lame.

American beauty was more touching to me.. And I like Family Guy's take on it.

Peter: "It's so beautiful! A bag caught in the wind, I feel like my heart is going to burst, it's so pretty!"
God: "It's just a fucking bag! DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW COMPLICATED YOUR CIRCULATORY SYSTEM IS?!?!"

diadem
eet bugz
posted 07-30-2004 09:39:43 AM
quote:
Lashanna had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Warning, the following contains possibly inflammatory material. It is, however, just my opinion.
I think it's highly over rated. In my opinion, it's one of those pieces of entertainment that a 13-16 year old will think they see the beginnings and endings of the greatest philosophy in, and spout it off until the next Chuck Palahniuk novel comes out.

actully, I kinda agree. Movies like the latest Planet of the Apes piss me off; the ones that put things in there to "make people think" but have no real reason for the stuff to be there. What's going on at the end of the latest planet of the apes movie? I donno. What annoys me is the fact hte producers don't either.

I see it as an excuse of lack of creativity or lazyness. After watching the movie at a friend's birthday party and again last weekend in the city with the same friend, I'm still not sure if everything was intentional or if it falls into the same cop-out. If there is an explenation for everything and it falls together in one grand master scheme, I will be impressed. If the little unexplained parts are there to "make people think" I will lose a lot of respect for the producer.

Seeing the directors cut, I really hope there is a grand master scheme. Lady Death's book should explain most of it.

diadem fucked around with this message on 07-30-2004 at 09:40 AM.

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