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posted 06-24-2004 07:46:17 PM
First of all, what's that neat character planner you all use? ;o

Secondly, what should I play at all? I'm the kind of guy who loved the way old-school monks were in EQ, and I'd like something similar. Decent melee damage with decent tanking = <3

hey
Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 06-24-2004 07:51:36 PM
Before you use the character Generator, play the game.

You'll be happy for it.

It's pretty easy to do a restart on a character later if you don't like it, but just playing the game first for a while is the best part.

Gunslinger Moogle
No longer a gimmick
posted 06-24-2004 07:58:43 PM
If you want to do damage and tank, you should be a Scrapper; in my experience, Scrappers are better at tanking than Tankers are at, er, Scrapping (which is not to say that you could always replace a Tanker; unlike them, you will take a bit of damage in any fight).

The power-sets are all variations on the theme of punching things in the face. Basically:

Dark Melee: damage + acc down
Spines: damage + slow
Katana/Broadsword: damage + def down (broadsword is slower but more damage)
Martial Arts: damage + disorients/knockdowns
Claws: damage+?




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Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 06-24-2004 08:01:41 PM
quote:
Jens had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
First of all, what's that neat character planner you all use? ;o

Secondly, what should I play at all? I'm the kind of guy who loved the way old-school monks were in EQ, and I'd like something similar. Decent melee damage with decent tanking =


You can try being a Martial Artist + Invulnerability Scrapper. Martial Artist moves are all kicks, but you have Brawl by default, and you can get 'Boxing' as an additional power to use your fists. Or get Flurry, it looks kickass, a ton of really fast punches all at once

If you play it right (Take the right pool powers), you'll end up being able to hit the same damage-reduction cap that Tankers hit (90% Damage reduction), and do more damage, though you'll sacrifice HP by going scrapper.

Khyron fucked around with this message on 06-24-2004 at 08:03 PM.

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posted 06-24-2004 08:02:53 PM
Uh, okay Geoorn, thanks for that little piece of advice there. Thanks Khyron for pointing me to the hero planner.

Moogle, Martial Arts sounds nice. So does Spines. Which one is better, power-wise?

Khyron: That sounds pretty much like my kind of play, though I might just go all out damage. I'll check the hero planner.

Jens fucked around with this message on 06-24-2004 at 08:03 PM.

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Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 06-24-2004 08:05:32 PM
quote:
Jens wrote this stupid crap:
Uh, okay Geoorn, thanks for that little piece of advice there. Thanks Khyron for pointing me to the hero planner.

Moogle, Martial Arts sounds nice. So does Spines. Which one is better, power-wise?

Khyron: That sounds pretty much like my kind of play, though I might just go all out damage. I'll check the hero planner.


Spines looks the ghey, but it probably is better. It deals minor Damage over Time, has a decent short-range ranged attack, and has a nice, wide variety of AE attacks. Martial Arts has more power per hit, but zero ranged attacks, all melee, and fewer AE's.

Gunslinger Moogle
No longer a gimmick
posted 06-24-2004 08:50:24 PM
quote:
Khyron makes me Khry-on:
Spines looks the ghey,

=(

quote:
oh geez its Khy again:
but it probably is better. It deals minor Damage over Time, has a decent short-range ranged attack, and has a nice, wide variety of AE attacks. Martial Arts has more power per hit, but zero ranged attacks, all melee, and fewer AE's.

Well, I'm the Spines scrapper duder and I'm very happy with it. If it weren't for my PBAoE attacks, I'd have to break down and cry every time I ran into a monster that had gone and gotten itself stuck in a wall (as opposed to having to do that once).

The DoT is very spiffy, as is Impale (the ranged attack mentioned; it doesn't have much of a range, but it's enough, and it can also Immobilze and it does a good chunk of damage too).

Gadani's an MA scrapper. He enjoys Disorienting guys, which is a pretty handy ability to have.




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posted 06-24-2004 08:55:10 PM
After conspiring with Nem, it turned out that Blasters are the better powergaming guys, so Fire/Devices Blaster it is.

Archetype: Blaster
Primary Powers - Ranged : Fire Blast
Secondary Powers - Support : Devices
Slot[01] Level 1 (Starting Primary) : Fire Blast /Empty
Slot[02] Level 1 (Starting Secondary) : Web Grenade /Empty
Slot[03] Level 2 : Fire Ball /Empty
Slot[04] Level 4 : Flares /Empty
Slot[05] Level 6 : Rain Of Fire /Empty
Slot[06] Level 8 : Hasten /Empty
Slot[07] Level 10 : Targeting Drone /Empty
Slot[08] Level 12 : Fire Breath /Empty
Slot[09] Level 14 : Taser /Empty
Slot[10] Level 16 : Caltrops /Empty
Slot[11] Level 18 : Smoke Grenade /Empty
Slot[12] Level 20 : Super Speed /Empty
Slot[13] Level 22 : Cloaking Device /Empty
Slot[14] Level 24 : Hover /Empty
Slot[15] Level 26 : Fly /Empty
Slot[16] Level 28 : Swift /Empty
Slot[17] Level 30 : Health /Empty
Slot[18] Level 32 : Stamina /Empty
Slot[19] Level 35 : Inferno /Empty
Slot[20] Level 38 : Trip Mine /Empty
Pools//3,8,2,10
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SlotT$Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty, Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty, Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty, Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty, Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty, Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty


I don't know about enhancement slots, as you can see. help

hey
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 06-24-2004 09:06:40 PM
You're going to want targeting drowned as soon as possible. Just because you almost never miss with it. Two or three Tohit buffs in it, and you're golden.
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 06-24-2004 09:06:43 PM
I'd swap flares and fire ball. AE attacks really arn't worth using that early on.
I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
very important poster
a sweet title
posted 06-24-2004 09:09:19 PM
Archetype: Blaster
Primary Powers - Ranged : Fire Blast
Secondary Powers - Support : Devices
Slot[01] Level 1 (Starting Primary) : Flares /Empty
Slot[02] Level 1 (Starting Secondary) : Web Grenade /Empty
Slot[03] Level 2 : Caltrops /Empty
Slot[04] Level 4 : Fire Ball /Empty
Slot[05] Level 6 : Rain Of Fire /Empty
Slot[06] Level 8 : Hover /Empty
Slot[07] Level 10 : Targeting Drone /Empty
Slot[08] Level 12 : Fire Breath /Empty
Slot[09] Level 14 : Combat Jumping /Empty
Slot[10] Level 16 : Super Jump /Empty
Slot[11] Level 18 : Smoke Grenade /Empty
Slot[12] Level 20 : Hasten /Empty
Slot[13] Level 22 : Fly /Empty
Slot[14] Level 24 : Swift /Empty
Slot[15] Level 26 : Health /Empty
Slot[16] Level 28 : Cloaking Device /Empty
Slot[17] Level 30 : Stamina /Empty
Slot[18] Level 32 : Inferno /Empty
Slot[19] Level 35 : Trip Mine /Empty
Slot[20] Level 38 : Blaze /Empty
Pools//3,8,2,5
Slots@-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1, -1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1, -1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
SlotT$Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty, Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty, Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty, Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty, Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty, Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
hey
Gunslinger Moogle
No longer a gimmick
posted 06-24-2004 09:10:44 PM
Whoa there! Think you might be using a few too many enhancements?



moogle is the 3241727861th binary digit of pi

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Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 06-24-2004 09:14:19 PM
Er, play a while, at any rate. Don't listen to me.

Delphi Aegis fucked around with this message on 06-24-2004 at 09:16 PM.

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posted 06-24-2004 09:17:07 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis was naked while typing this:
You still need targeting drone a lot earlier than that Jens.

I didn't understand your first post at all.

Gonna post a new layout tomorrow, sleeeep

hey
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 06-24-2004 09:21:59 PM
quote:
I want some of what Jens was smoking when they wrote this:
I didn't understand your first post at all.

Gonna post a new layout tomorrow, sleeeep


That's what I get for trying to use Dragon. Haha.

Targetting drone is indeedly awesome; slap two extra enhancement slots in it, put two ToHitbuff enhs and an endurance reducer, and you're almost never going to miss.

Since you have no real defensive/secondary abilities as a blaster, that helps a lot. You know, being pure damage and all that. Also, Caltrops is a boon, even if it has been nerfed a lot recently.

*Tal*
Pancake
posted 06-24-2004 09:43:17 PM
Is it just me, or is sniper rifle missing from the list here...
They say a smile is a gift which is free to the giver and precious to the recipient. But giving the finger is free too, and I find it more personal and sincere.
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 06-24-2004 09:47:49 PM
quote:
*Tal* stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Is it just me, or is sniper rifle missing from the list here...

But he isn't taking Assault...

Ohhhhhhhh.

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Addy
posted 06-24-2004 09:53:35 PM
quote:
From the book of Delphi Aegis, chapter 3, verse 16:
That's what I get for trying to use Dragon. Haha.

Targetting drone is indeedly awesome; slap two extra enhancement slots in it, put two ToHitbuff enhs and an endurance reducer, and you're almost never going to miss.

Since you have no real defensive/secondary abilities as a blaster, that helps a lot. You know, being pure damage and all that. Also, Caltrops is a boon, even if it has been nerfed a lot recently.


...

Level 10 is the earliest he can get it.

Tal NSFW!!
Pancake
posted 06-24-2004 10:39:33 PM
quote:
JooJooFlop had this to say about Captain Planet:
But he isn't taking Assault...

Ohhhhhhhh.


That would explain it quite nicely.

And here I thought me and Aani were the only non-assault blasters around EC...

KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 06-25-2004 02:36:26 PM
quote:
Tal NSFW!! enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
That would explain it quite nicely.

And here I thought me and Aani were the only non-assault blasters around EC...



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Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 06-25-2004 04:52:06 PM
quote:
When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Tal NSFW!! said:
That would explain it quite nicely.

And here I thought me and Aani were the only non-assault blasters around EC...


I have an Ice/Ice Blaster, Auntie Freeze, and UBT has an Electricity/Electricity Blaster named Zap Sparkton.

nem-x
posted 06-25-2004 05:24:22 PM
Archetype: Blaster
Primary Powers - Ranged : Fire Blast
Secondary Powers - Support : Devices
Slot[01] Level 1 (Starting Primary) : Flares /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[02] Level 1 (Starting Secondary) : Web Grenade /Empty
Slot[03] Level 2 : Caltrops /Empty,Empty
Slot[04] Level 4 : Fire Blast /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[05] Level 6 : Fire Ball /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[06] Level 8 : Rain Of Fire /Empty
Slot[07] Level 10 : Fire Breath /Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[08] Level 12 : Swift /Empty
Slot[09] Level 14 : Health /Empty
Slot[10] Level 16 : Smoke Grenade /Empty,Empty
Slot[11] Level 18 : Blaze /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[12] Level 20 : Stamina /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[13] Level 22 : Targeting Drone /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[14] Level 24 : Cloaking Device /Empty
Slot[15] Level 26 : Combat Jumping /Empty
Slot[16] Level 28 : Super Jump /Empty
Slot[17] Level 30 : Hasten /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[18] Level 32 : Inferno /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[19] Level 35 : Blazing Bolt /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[20] Level 38 : Trip Mine /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 06-25-2004 05:35:09 PM
quote:
I want some of what nem-x was smoking when they wrote this:
Archetype: Blaster
Primary Powers - Ranged : Fire Blast
Secondary Powers - Support : Devices
Slot[01] Level 1 (Starting Primary) : Flares /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[02] Level 1 (Starting Secondary) : Web Grenade /Empty
Slot[03] Level 2 : Caltrops /Empty,Empty
Slot[04] Level 4 : Fire Blast /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[05] Level 6 : Fire Ball /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[06] Level 8 : Rain Of Fire /Empty
Slot[07] Level 10 : Fire Breath /Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[08] Level 12 : Swift /Empty
Slot[09] Level 14 : Health /Empty
Slot[10] Level 16 : Smoke Grenade /Empty,Empty
Slot[11] Level 18 : Blaze /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[12] Level 20 : Stamina /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[13] Level 22 : Targeting Drone /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[14] Level 24 : Cloaking Device /Empty
Slot[15] Level 26 : Combat Jumping /Empty
Slot[16] Level 28 : Super Jump /Empty
Slot[17] Level 30 : Hasten /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[18] Level 32 : Inferno /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[19] Level 35 : Blazing Bolt /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[20] Level 38 : Trip Mine /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty

Targetting drone at 22 and no travel powers of ANY kind until 28 = the sux

nem-x
posted 06-25-2004 05:39:30 PM
You could probably switch smoke grenade and targetting drone.

I just find smoke grenade very helpful in solo'ing groups of mobs.

Genericgirl
Generictitle
posted 06-25-2004 08:35:27 PM
I have a claws/regen scrapper but I don't play her much. I do have a battle axe/invunerability tank. And I like her alot. But you decided on a blaster. If you want to try a tank or a scrapper I will be happy to give my opinion on them. Till then. Have fun with your blaster.
nem-x
posted 06-25-2004 10:56:19 PM
Here we go. I remade your blaster.

Archetype: Blaster
Primary Powers - Ranged : Fire Blast
Secondary Powers - Support : Devices
Slot[01] Level 1 (Starting Primary) : Fire Blast /Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg
Slot[02] Level 1 (Starting Secondary) : Web Grenade /Immob
Slot[03] Level 2 : Fire Ball /Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg
Slot[04] Level 4 : Caltrops /Slow
Slot[05] Level 6 : Hurdle /Jump
Slot[06] Level 8 : Fire Breath /Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg
Slot[07] Level 10 : Targeting Drone /HitBuf,HitBuf,HitBuf,HitBuf
Slot[08] Level 12 : Combat Jumping /DefBuf
Slot[09] Level 14 : Super Jump /Jump
Slot[10] Level 16 : Smoke Grenade /HitDeb,HitDeb,HitDeb
Slot[11] Level 18 : Blaze /Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg
Slot[12] Level 20 : Health /Heal
Slot[13] Level 22 : Stamina /EndRec,EndRec,EndRec,EndRec,EndRec,EndRec
Slot[14] Level 24 : Cloaking Device /DefBuf
Slot[15] Level 26 : Blazing Bolt /Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg
Slot[16] Level 28 : Hasten /Rchg,Rchg,Rchg,Rchg,Rchg,Rchg
Slot[17] Level 30 : Trip Mine /Acc,Acc,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg
Slot[18] Level 32 : Inferno /Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg,Dmg

The last two powers aren't really needed.

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posted 06-26-2004 06:15:01 PM
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