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Topic: 2 to the 24,036,583th power minus 1
Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 06-10-2004 10:39:49 PM
Largest Primary number

Took 405 pages to print out... yeesh...

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 06-10-2004 10:43:36 PM

That's insane.

Ctrl-Alt-Del
Pancake
posted 06-10-2004 10:44:11 PM
I must be one of the few people who finds that cool.
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 06-10-2004 10:49:31 PM
i don't get it -- how can you ever have a largest anything when it simply involves numbers?

Can't there be a bigger prime number, or do the numbers stop? Or is this comparing it to other large primes found?

Drysart
Pancake
posted 06-10-2004 10:56:31 PM
quote:
Falaanla Marr came out of the closet to say:
Or is this comparing it to other large primes found?

Exactly. Finding very large prime numbers is hard, and this is the biggest one found so far.

Ctrl-Alt-Del
Pancake
posted 06-10-2004 10:57:32 PM
The search never ends. Right after the largest number is discovered, the search resumes for the next-largest number. Findley's discovery came six months after the last number was found.
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 06-10-2004 11:14:59 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Drysart:
Exactly. Finding very large prime numbers is hard, and this is the biggest one found so far.

ah, ok. I was a bit confused with the way things were worded.

Razor
posted 06-10-2004 11:27:41 PM
quote:
Ctrl-Alt-Del was listening to Cher while typing:
[qb]The search never ends. Right after the largest number is discovered, the search resumes for the next-largest number. Findley's discovery came six months after the last number was found. [/QB]

I would like to point out it take about 60 servers with 4 dedicated processors each, working 24/7, using about almost a terabyre of RAM to push the numbers we're dealing with through it efficiently, I wouldn't want to do it by hand... or simple calculator.... hell even the server bank that the world financial networks use.

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very important poster
a sweet title
posted 06-11-2004 08:26:38 AM
Is there a point I'm missing?
hey
Darius!
Pancake
posted 06-11-2004 08:36:50 AM
quote:
Jens spewed forth this undeniable truth:
Is there a point I'm missing?

It's a big number.

very important poster
a sweet title
posted 06-11-2004 09:04:42 AM
quote:
Darius! was naked while typing this:
It's a big number.

Why would you spend those kinds of resources on calculating something useless? Assuming it is useless, I mean

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Pvednes
Lynched
posted 06-11-2004 09:20:33 AM
quote:
We were all impressed when Jens wrote:
Why would you spend those kinds of resources on calculating something useless? Assuming it is useless, I mean

Because it's their idea of fun.

Hugin
Pancake
posted 06-11-2004 10:00:23 AM
Euclids beautiful proof that Prime numbers are inexhaustible:

Assume there are a finite number of primes of which P is the largest. Q is a number larger than P. Q is equal to the product of every consecutive whole number from 2 to P plus the number 1 (so Q=(2*3*4*5*6.....*p)+1 ). It is obvious from this that no integer from 2 to P divides evenly into it since there would always be a remainder of 1.

If Q is not a prime itself then there must a prime larger than P by which it is evenly divisible and of course if Q is prime than it itself is the prime larger than P.

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Snugglits
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posted 06-11-2004 02:09:17 PM
quote:
Jens got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Why would you spend those kinds of resources on calculating something useless? Assuming it is useless, I mean

Large primes are useful for making sure that a computer's arithmetic is working properly, but ones this large would probably be a bit large for such a test, heh.

Remember, people are running this program on their home computers, so it's really not that big of a waste. As for why people are doing it... the Mersenne prime project is splitting the prize for largest prime contests with people who donate computer time. Why would there be such contests is beyond me, though.

Waisz fucked around with this message on 06-11-2004 at 02:12 PM.

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Arttemis
Not Squire... but a guitar!
posted 06-11-2004 05:17:28 PM
quote:
Jens had this to say about Pirotess:
Why would you spend those kinds of resources on calculating something useless? Assuming it is useless, I mean

Online encryption for sensitive information is derived from the multiplication of large prime numbers.

Computers are very good at multiplication, but not so much so at factoring.

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 06-11-2004 05:30:48 PM
In related news, the Prime Number Shitting Bear died today from massive trauma to his colon and anus.
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KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 06-11-2004 05:32:54 PM
"And despite all the effort, the numbers aren't actually that useful to science. Woltman compares the search to climbing Mount Everest. "It's been done before, but you get to claim you've climbed the highest peak."
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posted 06-11-2004 05:40:45 PM
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Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 06-11-2004 05:47:49 PM
It'll be useful later.

Ever watch Contact? Was it contact? It was that movie about Jodie Foster where they get signal from space in pulses of prime numbers. I.E. 1 pulse, 2 pulses, 3 pulses, 5 pulses, 7 pulses, 11 pulses... etc.

Numbers are one of the very few ways of communicating to anything and everything in the universe. Saying one foot to an alien won't mean much. But saying 1 billionth of a lightyear WOULD. Primes are another way of showing intelligence. As is figuring out what Pi is, etc.

KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 06-11-2004 05:49:33 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis obviously shouldn't have said:
they get signal

main screen turn on ?

Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
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Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 06-11-2004 05:50:45 PM
quote:
Blah blah blah KaLourin blah blah blah...
main screen turn on ?

How are you gentleman!

Yes, I did it on purpose.

Snugglits
I LIKE TO ABUSE THE ALERT MOD BUTTON AND I ENJOY THE FLAVOR OF SWEET SWEET COCK.
posted 06-11-2004 05:55:09 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
It'll be useful later.

Ever watch Contact? Was it contact? It was that movie about Jodie Foster where they get signal from space in pulses of prime numbers. I.E. 1 pulse, 2 pulses, 3 pulses, 5 pulses, 7 pulses, 11 pulses... etc.

Numbers are one of the very few ways of communicating to anything and everything in the universe. Saying one foot to an alien won't mean much. But saying 1 billionth of a lightyear WOULD. Primes are another way of showing intelligence. As is figuring out what Pi is, etc.


Uhh, no? I think you're overevaluating their usefulness. The prime dealy was just a way of showing that the signal wasn't insignificant noise. There are a lot of ways to do that.

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Drysart
Pancake
posted 06-12-2004 03:00:32 PM
quote:
Arttemis came out of the closet to say:
Computers are very good at multiplication, but not so much so at factoring.

Nobody's good at factoring the product of two large prime numbers. The fact that there's no easy way to do that is what keeps most encryption methods secure.

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