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Mavos stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Yeah, episode II was alot better then episode I. I think Lucas will put alot of effort into this "last" star wars movie.
I hope his 'effort' is spent hiring Irvin Kershner to direct it after handing over a script.
It's not something people hear about.
Of course they're not as good as the first trilogy, but they offer nice eye-candy.
I like Bout everything in the Original but Luke and Yoda.
I anjoyed Episode1 and 2 ... not for the story, but for the world and everything suronding them.
Episode 2 made me like Yoda and Stormtroopers (OMG They know how to SHOOT!!!!)
Anyhow, I am curius to see how it's gona turn out, see if Lucas follow on his original Storys and Idea that he putted in the RPG game.
I think they whent bit to far with the 3D , but then again, it given us a good chance to see MORE that hand made would of let him.
My only othere coment is that the ships are to rond and shinny
But We expected so much more, THe original where made to follow on Space Cowboy stuff Lucas loved. Now, it's a othere angle.
anyhow, my 5 cents
Fighting was decent I guess.
Even though the acting was absolute crap. The bit-part actors were better than the main role actors in some scenes.
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KaLourin wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
I liked em.
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Nobody really understood why Mavos wrote:
I seem to be amoung the few people who actually liked episode I and II, and can't wait for episode III. Is there anyone else out there who agrees with me?
I'm with ya there.
plot woes aside, first could have been made decent jsut by removing chibi anakin and jar jar...and pod racers
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Mortious got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
I liked them.Even though the acting was absolute crap. The bit-part actors were better than the main role actors in some scenes.
I tend to feel the same way. The story and special effects were decent in many places, but the HORRIBLE acting detracted from the movie in so many places, it started to get a bit pathetic.
Sometimes the bad acting got to a point though that made it ripe for doing a mocking (ala MST3K) instead of just watching (especially Anakin's "spoiled brat" type acting during Episode II), which helped the ejoyability too.
I saw a star wars movie.
I liked them both.
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i dug the second, hated the first
plot woes aside, first could have been made decent jsut by removing chibi anakin and jar jar...and pod racers
Chibi Anakin fit perfectly. Jar Jar sucks. The Pod Race was a bit extraneous, but I liked it.
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*Tal* rode by in a mouse drawn chariot while shouting:
When I went to see these movies, I went to see "A star wars movie" and guess what..I saw a star wars movie.
I liked them both.
I agree, but I just want to see JarJar's head removed with a light saber sometime during movie III. I don't care who does it, just so long as they do it.
Oh, a question for all the hardcore Star Wars fans: Is there some reason why lightsabers are mostly the same? Couldn't they be a little more imaginitive than just a dual-one? Jedi can make things float with the force, can have insane (Laser reflecting) reaction times, and can focus on many things at once. Why can't a jedi have like 4 light-daggers floating around them or something? They don't use their hands at all, just force-move them to fight.
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Rodent King probably says this to all the girls:
I liked the first two for the fighting and action scenes. Jedi's were shown with their super speed, their jumping abilities, and *Gasp* a unique kind of lightsaber!! The plots were horriblle compared to the first two, but in all the better-quality action scenes made up for it.Oh, a question for all the hardcore Star Wars fans: Is there some reason why lightsabers are mostly the same? Couldn't they be a little more imaginitive than just a dual-one? Jedi can make things float with the force, can have insane (Laser reflecting) reaction times, and can focus on many things at once. Why can't a jedi have like 4 light-daggers floating around them or something? They don't use their hands at all, just force-move them to fight.
I think that kind of ruins the elegance of light saber fighting. Or something.
The biggest problem the prequel stories have had isn't the movies themselves, but what the movies chose to focus on. When Episode 1 came out, I was frustrated more by the wasted build up with the podracing than with Jar Jar. Don't get me wrong, I (perhaps paradoxically) enjoyed the podracing, but I didn't feel it needed to eat up as much time in the movie as it did. (I understand Lucas uses the movies to showcase the special effects he can pull of through ILM, but a little less showboating and a little more substance would have been nice.) I was more interested in back story, and Episode 1 didn't have enough of that.
The result was that while Episode 2 was by far more satisfactory, it was forced to cram quite a lot of material in to make up for Episode 1. Jango Fett, Boba Fett, clones, droid army, Anakin slipping, the Padme/Anakin marriage, Yoda being a badass, Count Dooku's introduction, first inklings that the Jedi were decreased in number and Force-using capacity.
When the original trilogy came out, the stories were written to be a coherent storyline, with some time between each movie, but not enough to make the characters wildly different from movie to movie. Any "filling in the blanks" was left to the authors of novels who came later. The two prequels thus far have been so worried about being compatible with the media blitz (fifty million video games, novels, comics, and cartoons, which are all pretty cool, but sometimes confusing with their implications) that they aren't entirely compatible with the story Lucas talked about at the time of the original Trilogy, and slip-slide with content in and of themselves.
And for all the nay-sayers who say it's Lucas' story and he can do whatever he likes, you're exactly right. However, it's not for Lucas to judge whether his work is of the same quality. It's for critics, professional and amateur, to critique his work. And to be perfectly blunt, he traded quality for trendiness.
I mean really...Midichlorians?
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Jedi don't move with superhuman reflexes, either. Their power comes from precognition; they think the battle largely in advance by a few seconds and choreograph their movements to do what they want.
So to, as you put it, telekinetically wield a bunch of lightsabers, they would essentially have to be thinking their way through a fight from four different perspectives, while at the same time, purely with their mind, be precisely moving and controlling four different lightsabers.
While it's probably doable by extremely talented Jedi Masters, it's probably more showy than effective, and Jedi, like followers of the Samurai Bushido code, don't seem to believe in the idea of needless showing off.
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How.... Naimah.... uughhhhhh:
The Yoda fight was the only redeeming quality of the two movies.
That part made me laugh. A lot.
I just picture them tossing muppets across the sound stage at each other.
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about John Romero:
I mean really...Midichlorians?
I was waiting for Carl Anderson and Ted Neeley to show up and break into song.
Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, Snoota fucked around with this message on 06-01-2004 at 08:24 AM.
Who are you? What have you sacrificed?
Jesus Christ superstar,
Do you think you are what they say you are?
Thinking about your posts
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I would have liked Episode II but Hayden Christansen (or however it's spelled) was in it and he was the worst actor I have ever seen. Even worse than the kid who played Anakin in the first one. Even worse than Keanu Reeves.
Yeah he whined a lot. Paul Walker (Timeline, Fast and the Furious, Fast and the Furious 2) would have been a better choice if they wanted a youngish heart-throb sort. At least Walker can carry intensity better. Hayden Christiansen (or however it's spelled) came off like a petulant child more often than not. Anakin from the "Clone Wars" cartoon was more what I expected than Hayden.
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Trent was all like:
That part made me laugh. A lot.I just picture them tossing muppets across the sound stage at each other.
Have you seen the 'making of' for Episode II? They represented Yoda in that fight with a yoda doll that had fangs attached.
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Have you seen the 'making of' for Episode II? They represented Yoda in that fight with a yoda doll that had fangs attached.
Yeah I thought that was hilarious. The "Making Of" stuff in Ep 1 and 2 was great.
Ewan MacGregor and Ray Park were going at it with the metal rod lightsabers during filming and Ewan got so into it he like bent the metal rod "blade". They were all laughing their ass off at it and at one point you can hear what sounds like Ewan saying something like "I'm the only Jedi who ever bent their blade" in this real deadpan voice.
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If you just ignore the craptastic actors, it's a good movie. No where near as good as Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford, but good.
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael was all like:
Oh and for the record, contemplate this fact about Lightsabers: The reason they're so tricky to use is because the blade has no mass, yet touching it is likely to cause massive, traumatic damage, so precise, perfectly timed movements are necessary.Jedi don't move with superhuman reflexes, either. Their power comes from precognition; they think the battle largely in advance by a few seconds and choreograph their movements to do what they want.
So to, as you put it, telekinetically wield a bunch of lightsabers, they would essentially have to be thinking their way through a fight from four different perspectives, while at the same time, purely with their mind, be precisely moving and controlling four different lightsabers.
While it's probably doable by extremely talented Jedi Masters, it's probably more showy than effective, and Jedi, like followers of the Samurai Bushido code, don't seem to believe in the idea of needless showing off.
That's pretty much how I explain the difference in fighting styles of the original trilogy and the new one (Well, continuity-wise. I know in the new one it was to be more entertaining, though personally I liked the old style). In the original ones, Obi-wan and Vader were jedi masters. They didn't need to be flashy, they'd grown past that.
Look at Phantom Menace with the Darth Maul fight. How many times did he manage to land a kick? Each of those times, he could've used a slash, and won. But instead, he wanted to show off, humiliate the jedi, blah blah blah, and that's what got him killed.
Yoda needed to do all the flips and spins and whatnot, as he was too small to really use the kendo-style fighting of the OT, despite being a jedi master. I don't remember the fights with Mace, but didn't he eschew the flashy spins and whatnot?