What the fuck? I heard this was supposed to be good. It was fairly interesting. The death traps were pretty cool (the razor wire one in particular was pretty neat). The characters predictably fell apart, as they usually do in this sort of thing, but that's okay. I could handle that.
But...only the idiot savant survives. Everyone else dies. And then they don't answer any of the interesting questions like where the Cube came from, who built it, etc. They rely on the half-assed supposition Worth gives them when he reveals himself (IE "whoever knew the purpose got voted out or whatever, then the idea got sold to someone else") to answer anything.
This is what you get when you get bored in geometry class and try to make a movie based off of your homework.
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:But...only the idiot savant survives.
Can't the handicapped win? 
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Ryuujin had this to say about John Romero:
Can't the handicapped win?
That wouldn't make anyone laugh.
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Pvednes enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
Who told you Cube was supposed to be good?
Put it to you this way...I heard pretty good reviews of Cube from people I trust.
I suppose what really burns me up about this is that there's no payoff at the end. I liked the premise, I liked the tension and collision of characters. I didn't mind the endless math. What bugged me is that there was no real payoff at the end. None of the really interesting questions were ever answered.
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HOLLOWAYIt's all the same machine right. Pentagon. Multinational coorporations. The police! If you do one little job. You build a widget in Saskatoon. The next thing you know, it's two miles under the desert, the essential component of a deathmachine. I was right! All along my whole life I knew it. I told you Quentin. Nobody's ever call me paranoid again. We gotta get out of here and blow the lid of this thing.
WORTHHolloway, you don't get it.
HOLLOWAYThen tell me, please, I need to know.
WORTHIt's maybe hard for you to understand, but there's no conspiracy. Nobody is in charge. It's a headless blunder operating under the illusion of a masterplan. Can you grasp that? Big brother is not watching you.
QUENTINWhat kind of fucking explanation is that?
WORTHIt's the best you´re gonna get. I looked and the only explanation I can come to is that there is nobody up there.
QUENTINSomebody had to say yes to this thing.
WORTHWhat thing? Only we know what it is.
QUENTINWe have no idea, what it is.
WORTHWe know more than anybody else. I mean somebody might have known sometime, before they got fired or voted out or sold it. But if this place ever had a purpose, then it got miscommunicated or lost in the shuffle. This is an accident, a forgotten propetual, public, worksproject. Do you think anybody wants to ask questions? All they want is a clear conscience and a fat paycheck. I mean, I lead on my desk for months. This was a great job!
QUENTINWhy put people in it?
WORTHBecause it's here. you have to use it or admit it's pointless.
QUENTINBut it is pointless!
WORTHQuentin... That's my point.
Dat's da mindset ob da coprate world (and a lot of muni-uh-palities) in da entirety.. dat's why me liked da mobie so much... his explenation wuz feas-uh-bul... people droning on following corperations dat are so mismanaged or anceint dat dey don't know whut dey are doing.... people not looking out dere only window or caring uh-bout anyting except da obvious... human stupidty dorning on without question, even with the nation's brightest...
the rest of the quote, basicly repeating what was already said...
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HOLLOWAYWhat have we come to? It's so much worse than I thought.
WORTHNot really, just more pathetic.
QUENTINYou make me sick, Worth!
WORTHI make me sick too. We´re both part of the system. I drew a box - you walk a beat. It's like you said Quentin is: Keep your head down, keep it simple, just look at what's in fron of you! I mean nobody wants to see the big picture. Life's too complicated. I mean, let's face it. The reason we're here is it's out of control.
diadem fucked around with this message on 05-29-2004 at 12:56 PM.
Cube was nifty, had some massive problems, but I liked the idea
But damn was Hypercube ever bad
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How.... Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael.... uughhhhhh:
I dunno...buying into "The whole point is how pointless it is" doesn't really give a good answer. a 434-foot cube buried under the desert for no purpose? Seems like a lot of work just to write a character drama based on geometry.
i think it says a lot about our society. his story isn't that far fetched. The project was created, lost its purpose in the shuffle, and kept going. It would be a huge blunder to put all this money into a project that had no purpose, so those in charage, be it in a government instuation or corperation, kept on plugging away at it. The workers were only given their own tasks. They didn't know about the whole, and frankly didn't care as long as they got a fat paycheck. Those who made the killing rooms could live morally clean by simply not thinking about what they were creating and continue to go on assuming a job is a job. Besides, if they rooms were used to kill someting other than say, cattle, they were not the ones doing it, or they were only following orders. More importantly, if they didn't think about it, they didn't even have to worry. If they were independant contractors, the phrase don't ask questions as long as you get paid comes to mind. One blunder lead to another and in the end the project was pushed foward by those who didn't want to look foolish in front of their superiors or a superior who had a project from their prior boss that they didn't want to admint they have no idea what it was for. In the end after the project was completed, in order to show there was an overall point to the project, people were taken in. The deeper it got the more anyone who know anything about the project assumed there was some sort of greater purpose for it and let it grow stronger. This only perpetuated on itself. It shows how dangerous a society can get when its indivudals only think about bettering themselves and never care about how they can benifit the big picture, people care about how much they appear to be doing instead of doing, and don't take responcibility for their own actions.
Corperations (especialy government contractors) finishing usless projects just so they don't seem futile is not uncommon. You have the contract, so even if it no longer serves a purpose, you have to complete it. The money's allready allocated. Blue an white collar workers working on a job and not asking what exactly they are making is very common. Good old ford let you make a peice of the whole without worrying about what you are making. As long as you get paid, who really cares. It's human nature. Management changing and screwing everything up, especialy when an old employee is disgrunteled and wants to screw the company when they know they are about to get fired is extremly frequent. People not taking responcibility for their actions is the staple of our current generation. Money not beign accounted for is extremly common. These simple flaws of human nature could allow something so hiddeous to be created.
edit: and the whole it's pointless thing isn't really the end of the conversation...
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WORTHI make me sick too. We´re both part of the system. I drew a box - you walk a beat. It's like you said Quentin is: Keep your head down, keep it simple, just look at what's in fron of you! I mean nobody wants to see the big picture. Life's too complicated. I mean, let's face it. The reason we're here is it's out of control.
also...
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WORTHStill looking for someone to bust, Quentin?
is important too. looking for a scapegoat when the entire system is flawed. life's eaiser if you can just find a single source for all life's troubles. beliving one exists is is dangerous and easy. that's why hypercube destroyed the entire point of the first movie.
edit3: The script can be found here
edit4: another cool part of the movie, irrelevant to the rest of this post here diadem fucked around with this message on 05-30-2004 at 09:02 AM.
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So quoth Tarquinn:
Hey, it's better than the timecube, now isn't it?
Why not the Time Cube?
The ONLY REASON is educated stupidity!
