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Pvednes
Lynched
posted 05-21-2004 07:21:32 AM
So how exactly does this stock market thing work? As far as I can tell so far it's the lottery for people with money.

More importantly, however, how does one use it to turn money into more money?

Vernaltemptress
Withered and Alone
posted 05-21-2004 07:36:59 AM
Simplistic explanation is that the stock market works like buying and selling a house/property. One hopes that the property rises in value over an extended period of time and returns a profit on one's investment. Occasionally, the property loses value for various reasons and the owner does not recover his initial investment.
Obamanomics: spend, tax, and borrow.
Pvednes
Lynched
posted 05-21-2004 07:42:24 AM
So how does one pick what's more likely to increase in value and what's going to pull an HIH?
Vernaltemptress
Withered and Alone
posted 05-21-2004 07:48:37 AM
One must evaluate the history of a company, the board of directors, the executive staff, the mission, to determine the company's likelihood of success. Risk factors place a HUGE role here and one must match their own comfort level with the risk level of making the investment. The higher the risk, the higher the return on investment (and vice versa). It also depends greatly on how tied one is to their money.
Obamanomics: spend, tax, and borrow.
Pvednes
Lynched
posted 05-21-2004 07:56:42 AM
Ahh, so the gambling aspect again...
`Doc
Cold in an Alley
posted 05-21-2004 08:07:23 AM
New businesses, or businesses in experimental fields, tends to be a high-risk, high-return investment. If the company succeeds, it'll be worth a lot, and you will have bought stock when it was still worth only a little. If it fails, then it retains none of its original value.
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Noxhil
Pancake
posted 05-21-2004 10:26:01 AM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Pvednes said:
Ahh, so the gambling aspect again...

You're gambling on what you think that other people will think this company is worth in a period of time. The actual value of a company technically doesn't really have much bearing on the stock price

Naimah
In a Fire
posted 05-21-2004 01:06:14 PM
Unless you day trade, then you really are just gambling.
Pvednes
Lynched
posted 05-21-2004 01:16:53 PM
quote:
Naimah stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Unless you day trade, then you really are just gambling.

Better than buying a lottery ticket once a week.

Sean
posted 05-21-2004 01:42:41 PM
quote:
How.... Pvednes.... uughhhhhh:
Better than buying a lottery ticket once a week.

But much more damaging if you don't come out on top.

Something not mentioned yet is that high-percentage shareholders gain a voice within the running of the company, a way to try an ensure it is run in a way they think will send the value of their part through the roof.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Majox
Pancake
posted 05-21-2004 06:13:22 PM
The stock market is only gambling if you treat it as such. Given the fact that the market has overall generally gone up about 9-10% a year, if you don't want to do a lot of work, you might as well just invest in a stock index mutual fund. I can give more details if you need them.
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Drysart
Pancake
posted 05-21-2004 07:47:02 PM
quote:
Naimah came out of the closet to say:
Unless you day trade, then you really are just gambling.

Day Trading is gambling. Long term investing in reputable companies and/or mutual funds is not. The stock markets have never ended up lower over any given 20 year span. Ever.

Drysart fucked around with this message on 05-21-2004 at 07:47 PM.

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 05-22-2004 04:16:26 AM
You're going to blow it off because it's written by a professional Wrestler, but check out John Bradshaw's book if you ever get a chance. He's a financial advisor on three weekly TV shows(two on CNBC, and one on Fox) and now has his own radio show and his book, despite it's stupid cliche name, explains the stock market and investing in terms so simple even a... well, professional wrestler could understand.

He turned the 27 dollars(and a full tank of gas!) he had left over after being cut from a pro football team into a sizable amount(a few hundred thousand) before becoming a wrestler.

Pvednes
Lynched
posted 05-22-2004 05:58:29 AM
quote:
Snoota impressed everyone with:
You're going to blow it off because it's written by a professional Wrestler, but check out John Bradshaw's book if you ever get a chance. He's a financial advisor on three weekly TV shows(two on CNBC, and one on Fox) and now has his own radio show and his book, despite it's stupid cliche name, explains the stock market and investing in terms so simple even a... well, professional wrestler could understand.

He turned the 27 dollars(and a full tank of gas!) he had left over after being cut from a pro football team into a sizable amount(a few hundred thousand) before becoming a wrestler.



I shall look into it, should I see it on the bookstore shelves. And that's damn impressive.

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