I would have fucking killed that guy if that was my daughter..
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This one time, at Timpofee camp:
Can you just imagine...I would have fucking killed that guy if that was my daughter..
at this point i'd take the satisfaction in knowing that he will be on the reciving end from now on.
and that I'd be waiting for him if he gets out.
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Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Somthor who doth quote:
at this point i'd take the satisfaction in knowing that he will be on the reciving end from now on.
People like to quote sexual abuse in prisons as some kind of vindication - sexual abuse in prison actually isn't all that common, and it's not tolerated by prison administration.
Sexual abuse in prison is hardly a sure thing. The majority serve their sentence in impunity.
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Maradon! enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
People like to quote sexual abuse in prisons as some kind of vindication - sexual abuse in prison actually isn't all that common, and it's not tolerated by prison administration.Sexual abuse in prison is hardly a sure thing. The majority serve their sentence in impunity.
I'm assuming you're about to get at the point that prisoners live a better life than most citizens. Still, go to the various prisons and ask around. They'd all like out.
Its a someone conforting illusion wouldnt you say?
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Peanut butter ass Shaq Mr. Parcelan booooze lime pole over bench lick:
I'm assuming you're about to get at the point that prisoners live a better life than most citizens. Still, go to the various prisons and ask around. They'd all like out.
Not at all. My only point is that emprisonment alone is a woefully inadequate punishment in many situations.
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Also, don't prisoners tend to go rough on others who are child abusers/molesters? In other words, even though the sodomizing isn't that common, isn't it likely this guy will be a prime candidate?
He might wind up being the one doing the sodomizing.
He might have a better time on the inside than he ever did as a free man.
Prisons also don't take kindly to child molestors.. It's considered the lowest of the low. Or, so I've heard
Oh and let me add that I admire the girl's bravery. Many people don't have the courage to stand witness against their mugger let alone someone who has mistreated them so badly. Hugin fucked around with this message on 04-19-2004 at 08:10 PM.
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Ares probably says this to all the girls:
Prisons also don't take kindly to child molestors.. It's considered the lowest of the low. Or, so I've heard
Yep. You know you've really fucked up when murderers, thieves and garden variety rapists think you're a major league scumbag.
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Maradon! was all like:
People like to quote sexual abuse in prisons as some kind of vindication - sexual abuse in prison actually isn't all that common, and it's not tolerated by prison administration.Sexual abuse in prison is hardly a sure thing. The majority serve their sentence in impunity.
child molesters are almost certain to get raped or otherwised beaten no one is lower in the prisons hiarchy than a child molester/killer
its somthing that even the prison admin doenst shed a tear over.
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This one time, at Lady Delirium camp:
i watched a case just about identical to this on law and order: SVU...all the law and order shows are based on real events...i wonder if it was based off of this?
I love SVU. 
Great show.
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Azizza spewed forth this undeniable truth:
Hangins to good for him.
Murder's too good for him...
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Lady Delirium had this to say about dark elf butts:
i watched a case just about identical to this on law and order: SVU...all the law and order shows are based on real events...i wonder if it was based off of this?
Except, you know, at the begining and end of the show it specifically states, "These events are fictional and are in no way related to real crimes" or something to that effect.
they tell you which ones are which in the disclaimer.
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Nobody really understood why Mr. Parcelan wrote:
I'm assuming you're about to get at the point that prisoners live a better life than most citizens. Still, go to the various prisons and ask around. They'd all like out.
In terms of living conditions, however, in some cases they do have better lives than the ones they had on the streets. 3 square meals a day, cable TV, the chance at bettering themselves through education, internal trading for things like cigarettes, etc, and many other things they didn't have when they were outside. I had to do a presentation on that back in my senior year of high school for Government, and I'm sure things have just gotten worse in the ensuing 6 years. Prison just isn't a punishment anymore.
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Jania Arindelil had this to say about Pirotess:
In terms of living conditions, however, in some cases they do have better lives than the ones they had on the streets. 3 square meals a day, cable TV, the chance at bettering themselves through education, internal trading for things like cigarettes, etc, and many other things they didn't have when they were outside. I had to do a presentation on that back in my senior year of high school for Government, and I'm sure things have just gotten worse in the ensuing 6 years. Prison just isn't a punishment anymore.
I would argue that prison is more for the safety of the general public than the punishment of the criminals. Put the crim away for the rest of his life, he's not going to be harming anyone no-mo. The problem arises when he's let out on good behaviour 25 years later. Then it falls down. Pvednes fucked around with this message on 04-20-2004 at 05:10 AM.
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I would argue that prison is more for the safety of the general public than the punishment of the criminals. Put the crim away for the rest of his life, he's not going to be harming anyone no-mo.The problem arises when he's let out on good behaviour 25 years later. Then it falls down.
He'll be what, 75 by then? Won't be raping anyone, even if he wanted to. 
indegloriafeestbeest fucked around with this message on 04-20-2004 at 05:29 AM.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent indegloriafeestbeest said:
I'm still baffled by your points of vieuw,it's still U.S. orientated.
When are you all gonna learn,this is europe,we do things different here.
As in,we have NO death penalty,nowhere,doesn't excist,therefore it's not an issue to discuss (whether or not he desreves it is another one)
We have a completely different prison system.
There is general population,but you don't think the authoreties are stupid enough to put a guy like Dutroux in general population after all the time and money that was spent to catch him and put him on trial,do ya?
So think a little outside your own country and get informed,there's plenty on the net to find,and i've yet to catch one of you not being a very able compwizzard......
Well dunno, I'd prefer some of the US prisons to any Austrian one, theirs reach literally from 'hotel' to 'death camp', ours are consistently somewhere in the middle.
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There is general population,but you don't think the authoreties are stupid enough to put a guy like Dutroux in general population after all the time and money that was spent to catch him and put him on trial,do ya?
Actually I do. Like you said, it's europe, liberal paradise; you do things different there.
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This one time, at indegloriafeestbeest camp:
I'm still baffled by your points of vieuw,it's still U.S. orientated.
When are you all gonna learn,this is europe,we do things different here.
As in,we have NO death penalty,nowhere,doesn't excist,therefore it's not an issue to discuss (whether or not he desreves it is another one)
We have a completely different prison system.
There is general population,but you don't think the authoreties are stupid enough to put a guy like Dutroux in general population after all the time and money that was spent to catch him and put him on trial,do ya?
So think a little outside your own country and get informed,there's plenty on the net to find,and i've yet to catch one of you not being a very able compwizzard......
In Australia, we hear of murderers being let out of prison under a decade after they get put in. And we don't have a death penalty either, which is good, but there needs to be longer sentences for the higher crimes... Tell us about your judicial system.
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ah the heavy metal reference.... 
I think the FDA and CDC needs to make use of lifers for drug testing and vacine evaluations. Just my 2 cents.
Apparently the Europeans feel that even a life sentence is too harsh, since it doesn't provide any prospect for the individual to rejoin society on the exceedingly rare off chance that he actually manages to rehabilitate himself and therefore, is some sort of cruel and unusual punishment.
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Callalron had this to say about Duck Tales:
From what I've seen, Europe has long since gotten away from the practice of using prison as punishment. Want proof? Consider the people facing trial in the Hague for war crimes committed in Bosnia. Not only do they not face the possiblity of a death sentence, since that's, ya know, too cruel to do to someone only participated in mass, organized, government-sanctioned genocide, I don't think they've even handed down a life sentence to anyone involved.Apparently the Europeans feel that even a life sentence is too harsh, since it doesn't provide any prospect for the individual to rejoin society on the exceedingly rare off chance that he actually manages to rehabilitate himself and therefore, is some sort of cruel and unusual punishment.
I'm all for rehabilitation, and I'm also against the death penalty, but that is stupid. There are a lot of people who can't be rehabilitated and should never be a part of society again.
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Callalron had this to say about Tron:
From what I've seen, Europe has long since gotten away from the practice of using prison as punishment. Want proof? Consider the people facing trial in the Hague for war crimes committed in Bosnia. Not only do they not face the possiblity of a death sentence, since that's, ya know, too cruel to do to someone only participated in mass, organized, government-sanctioned genocide, I don't think they've even handed down a life sentence to anyone involved.Apparently the Europeans feel that even a life sentence is too harsh, since it doesn't provide any prospect for the individual to rejoin society on the exceedingly rare off chance that he actually manages to rehabilitate himself and therefore, is some sort of cruel and unusual punishment.
In the more severe cases the court stated that it did not pass life sentences because they wanted to save the maximum penalty available to them for the actual decisionmakers in the crimes commited.
