Overall, the stock story (ie: The Singleplayer Storyline) is pretty generic, it's not bad, it's just average. It is entertaining, and it will keep you playing, but aside from being able to sexxor the whores and trying to get in to Aribeth's pants, it's not all that memorable. SoU SP story was an afterthought, and it shows, SoU was primarily an update to the engine and tools (And a SERIOUSLY good one), however Hordes of the Underdark's story and SP game just kicks all kinds of ass, hands down.
The game itself is quite cool, very DnDish and entertaining, it actually works VERY well for a CRPG, and they did a good job adapting.
You can find all kinds of online communities/worlds to join and play on, some downright kick ass and are fun as hell, others are mediocre to very bad. It just depends on the person who built the world and the community that maintains it.
If you are into creating, and developing, you CANNOT beat NWN's tool set and engine, it is by far the best ease of use, and wicked tool there is. Noteably, if you are not a creator and just a player, it is these player made mods that will give you the greatest amount of fun. Since it was, afterall, the primary goal behind NWN anyway. It was the "We will give you the tools, what you do with them will decide everything, yadda yadda".
Overall, it is well worth owning, and as cheap as NWN:Gold Edition (Which includes SoU), and Hordes of the Underdark expansion are. It's not that bad a deal. If nothing else it's cheap, and will entertain you for a while, so you don't loose much.
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Are the player made worlds constant? Like a mini MMORPG? Or is it just running campaigns at certain times?
There are quite a few constant worlds, like MMORPGs, most will be Adventure Mods. The Constant Worlds are cool as shit, but most of your playtime will be Adventure Mods if you want to play a bunch of different good games, which are basically Player Made games like the SP Games. There are also shit loads of really good versions of those as well.
If constant worlds are your thing though, they exist, there are a few really amazing ones, and you can just play on them forever if you like as well.
I figure if it goes up on EC, it will be a persistant world as well. Faelynn LeAndris fucked around with this message on 04-12-2004 at 09:08 PM.
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Borrow it from a friend first, if you can. NWN just isn't for some people =\
I am bizzaro-Somthor.
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Borrow it from a friend first, if you can. NWN just isn't for some people =\
This is true, but generally if you like Balur's Gate, Planescape:Torment, or similiar games, you will like NWN as well.
It's not, however, the stock games (Besides Hordes of the Underdark which just kicks ass) that makes it, its the other worlds and adventure mods that do.
It is NOT however a fast paced, Diablo-esque type CRPG, it is very much a Baldur's Gate style RPG with 3ed rules instead of 2ed rules. (Which for a non-DnD player shouldn't really matter) The only major difference in play styles between Baldur's Gate and NWN style play is, No teammate management. You at most, will only have one other party memeber (If you even choose to have them) during the whole game. This is a plus and a negative for some people. Of course online play differs, as it is more party oriented because real people will play your party memebers if you choose to do so. Faelynn LeAndris fucked around with this message on 04-12-2004 at 09:12 PM.
I play on a constant/ persistant world -loosely- based on the WoT books, it's fun and has plenty of factions. some of the stuff gets kinda stupid sometimes though.
It's the only server that is able to hold my interest for more than a few minutes.
Its under the RP servers as The Wheel of Time and it's running The Third Age module.
Just for those of you who have read the books and enjoyed them, but as I said, it's loosely based on the books and alot of stuff is different due to being a persistant world and other factors. Anklebiter fucked around with this message on 04-12-2004 at 09:21 PM.
It's not hindered at all on this machine, but it's newer, so i just figured I'd warn you. It will run, and run okay, on older/slower machines with all the options on. But it won't run optimally unless you have a faster machine, like 1Ghz or better, and a decent video card.
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I play on a constant/ persistant world -loosely- based on the WoT books, it's fun and has plenty of factions. some of the stuff gets kinda stupid sometimes though.It's the only server that is able to hold my interest for more than a few minutes.
Its under the RP servers as The Wheel of Time and it's running The Third Age module.
Just for those of you who have read the books and enjoyed them, but as I said, it's loosely based on the books and alot of stuff is different due to being a persistant world and other factors.
Ohh! More info please! Now! ^.^
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This is true, but generally if you like Balur's Gate, Planescape:Torment, or similiar games, you will like NWN as well.
NWN was a good game, but I could never get into the story and the blah-blah progression of your char. Strangely enough, however, the Baldur's Gate Saga is the best series ever made in my opinion... so that may or may not be an indicating factor. (the factor being whether or not you like BG and PS:T)
There are some EXCEPTIONAL mods out there that are in itself worth buying NWN. Still, the spell effects made me want to cry (I got this right after beating Throne of Bhaal) and a lot of, what I felt as lack of attention to detail by the devs. I dunno it just felt like... we were buying the tools, not the game. *shrugs*
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It was just $12.99 at Wal-Mart here, in fact there were still copies on the shelf when I was looking earlier today when I was shopping.
I'm pretty sure HotU was only $19.99 as well there, but on that one I could be mistaken since I was going from memory.
I'm sorry, it may just be a local thing. No searches come up with lower prices either?
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NWN was a good game, but I could never get into the story and the blah-blah progression of your char. Strangely enough, however, the Baldur's Gate Saga is the best series ever made in my opinion... so that may or may not be an indicating factor. (the factor being whether or not you like BG and PS:T)There are some EXCEPTIONAL mods out there that are in itself worth buying NWN. Still, the spell effects made me want to cry (I got this right after beating Throne of Bhaal) and a lot of, what I felt as lack of attention to detail by the devs. I dunno it just felt like... we were buying the tools, not the game. *shrugs*
I was mostly comparing styles. As in NWN plays like Baldur's Gate, although the story is not as GOOD as Baldur's Gate. Not stock anyway, there are some player mods though that are just downright awesome.
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It was just $12.99 at Wal-Mart here, in fact there were still copies on the shelf when I was looking earlier today when I was shopping.I'm pretty sure HotU was only $19.99 as well there, but on that one I could be mistaken since I was going from memory.
I'm sorry, it may just be a local thing. No searches come up with lower prices either?
I'll check around the Walmarts around here. And no, it's even 29.99/39.99 coming directly from Bioware, so it's not a retailer mark up.
Then, find a way to munchkin*, min-max**, and metagame*** all to hell to get your character the absolute most powerful they can become, and kill everyone, thus solidifying your status as a god. Then, go to another server and repeat the process.
*Using gray-area tactics, not quite cheating but very, uh, low, in order to increase your power. [EDIT- Fuck. Now I've forgotten how to count. Everyone, spread the word! 4 is now equal to 2!] Ruvyen fucked around with this message on 04-12-2004 at 10:00 PM.
**Maximizing your character's strengths while at the same time minimizing its weaknesses.
***Using out-of-game and out-of-character knowledge to increase your character's power.
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
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You at most, will only have one other party memeber (If you even choose to have them) during the whole game.
A little misleading there. You can have potentially a familiar, a summoned critter, an animal companion, and however many henchmen the module lets you purchase (HotU gave builders the capability to allow multiple henchmen).
If you're a D&D purist, NWN will not be what you expect it to be. That's why everyone griped when it was released. Just consider it primarily based on 3rd Edition with some tweaks by Bioware. There's no jumping, swimming, and horses, most notably. (Horses are in the works by players actually, and are partially done) They've even taken "creative license" by adding in a Parry skill (which kicks ass for rogues by the way), Knockdown feats, drastically changing Weapon Finesse, stuff like that.
On the vault (See Talonus's post) you can even find some classic PnP adventures brought back to life in NWN. It also has a ton of user-created content, fixes for some of Bioware's goofs (most notably in spells), or just adding things people thought should have been included (there's a package out there with like 20 prestige classes in it, including Duelist, Lich, Demi-Lich, etc).