I have flown through Evequest recently, getting my bard of level 25 as of December up to level 65 + ~20aa's and nearly with epic. The thing is, it is getting tedious. I won't be in a guild that can raid newer and better mobs (due to RL time constraints). Soloing AA's and cash... is only so fun. I don't care to make an alt, been through a few characters and am satisfied with my bard as my final character for Everquest.
Here is the question. I played DAoC for a bit, and didn't seem to enjoy it much (this was about a few months before the first expansion was released). Then again, I might not have seriously tried either. I played SWG here and there for 2 seperate 2 month time spans. I liked it as my aspiring Bounty Hunter, however, it also became tedious with just soloing missions and never seeing other people, or being able to chat with them. (This was also a problem I was having with DAoC, the lack of communication with others). Both might be just because I was young in the game, and wasn't developed to the level where most of the people were hunting.
Anyways, currently, which of these (EQ/DAoC/SWG) do people play still, and find enjoyable. Also, is FFXI still holding up to be a good game? or was it more of a fad?
Last comment, at this point, am I better off waiting for WoW and giving that one a try?
(I didn't mention WoW just because it doesn't interest me in the least - and I know that places me firmly in the minority here.)
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Gravity'sAngel said:
I'm still playing EQ (after 5 years and two characters to 65+), but I'm not easily bored. DAOC was fun for a short time, Lineage 2 looks mildly interesting, City of Heroes might be fun for a bit, but I'm putting MY next subscription into Sigil's Vanguard.(I didn't mention WoW just because it doesn't interest me in the least - and I know that places me firmly in the minority here.)
Indeed, I'm exactly the same. I couldn't possibly care less about WoW, but Vanguard will be the best thing on the intarweb since porn.
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Hireko obviously shouldn't have said:
I think it would help if you got a good guild in either DAoC or SWG fairly quickly. As part of a good cross-game RP guild, I never feel alone in an MMORPG.
A lot of people play the game for the people they meet, not the gameplay. I'm only mildly interested in loot (that was a lie) and playing the actual game.
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I think it would help if you got a good guild in either DAoC or SWG fairly quickly.
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Mortious thought about the meaning of life:
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The Avatar Crime Syndicate, the best PA this side of Uranus! 
However, WoW has swallowed my soul.
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Bajah Model 2000 was programmed to say:
DAoC has changed a lot since the time you played it. It's a really good game and I still enjoy it a lot.
DAoC has sucked since TOA. The game had a lot of potential, a great community, and cool developers... but time was just not its friend.
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DAoC has sucked since TOA. The game had a lot of potential, a great community, and cool developers... but time was just not its friend.
Eh, open field RvR may have sucked since ToA, but I never much enjoyed that anyway. PvE and the battlegrounds were my favorites and they've nothing but improved since ToA.
I didn't even know you played.
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Talonus wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
DAoC has sucked since TOA. The game had a lot of potential, a great community, and cool developers... but time was just not its friend.
What are you talking about? Since ToA came out the armor is cooler and more effective, plus they added the really sweet and handy Master Levels which are but only a small inconvenience.
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This insanity brought to you by Lechium:
What are you talking about? Since ToA came out the armor is cooler and more effective, plus they added the really sweet and handy Master Levels which are but only a small inconvenience.
Over time the game has totally changed the entire point of high end gameplay. It used to be PvE at low end and RvR at high end. Over time it forced PvE into the high end so people could compete. No matter what Sanya said about MLs not being required for RvR, TOA really pushed PvE on level 50 folks who wanted to compete in RvR.
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Talonus had this to say about the Spice Girls:
No matter what Sanya said about MLs not being required for RvR, TOA really pushed PvE on level 50 folks who wanted to compete in RvR.
I agree with you there. Unfortunately the last time I went out into RvR with my one ML ability, I got my ass handed to me, everyone else seems to be either 49, 50, or close to 50.
I don't know what the low end FFXI game is like anymore, but theres a flood of newbies since the Playstation 2 version hit shelves 2 weeks ago.
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Lechium had this to say about Knight Rider:
I agree with you there. Unfortunately the last time I went out into RvR with my one ML ability, I got my ass handed to me, everyone else seems to be either 49, 50, or close to 50.
Yeah, that's pretty much why I think DAoC killed itself. Orignally, once you hit 50 you could just go out and RvR. You didn't have to be great or have the best armor and still be competitive. Now, you need 50, an uber template, SCed armor, dropped accessories, a high rank, and ML10 to be competitive. Time was not friendly to DAoC and non-hardoce players.
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Yeah, that's pretty much why I think DAoC killed itself. Orignally, once you hit 50 you could just go out and RvR. You didn't have to be great or have the best armor and still be competitive. Now, you need 50, an uber template, SCed armor, dropped accessories, a high rank, and ML10 to be competitive. Time was not friendly to DAoC and non-hardoce players.
I don't have any of that other than the level 50...and I do really well in RvR, both with my Healer and my Shadowblade. Sounds to me like you're just spouting the usual 'rant' that's so generic it has no basis.
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Skaw stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Yes, wait for a game that won't be out for atleast half a year! Geez guys, can you play another drum?
He asked if he should wait for WoW. INSANITY 
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Bajah had this to say about Duck Tales:
I don't have any of that other than the level 50...and I do really well in RvR, both with my Healer and my Shadowblade. Sounds to me like you're just spouting the usual 'rant' that's so generic it has no basis.
No, I'm just an old player who became bittered with the direction the game took. Besides, say what you just did to any player who engages in non-zerg RvR and they'll laugh at you, unless its your server.
I quit before ToA, but on my server if you didnt' have a good SC template + RR5, in an 8v8 confrontation you were dead vs a group that was well equipped + RR5 min. There was no way you could pull a win out of your arse, unless the other group really sucked.
Who's your healer and SB perchance? Herald shows Bajah only has 40k RPs, and Atnas has 3.3k. Hate to sound like a jerk, but those are pretty piddly and don't show much representation of time you've spent in RvR.
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I quit before ToA
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Who's your healer and SB perchance? Herald shows Bajah only has 40k RPs, and Atnas has 3.3k. Hate to sound like a jerk, but those are pretty piddly and don't show much representation of time you've spent in RvR.
My SB: http://www.camelotherald.com/chardisplay.php?s=Iseult&c=247391
Every bit of that done solo.
And with my Healer, when I go RvR, I only do keep takes and defense.. not much RPs in that, but I do a lot of work.
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A sleep deprived Bajah stammered:
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First point. I did say OVER TIME. I quit because the game had been moving away from just RvR at the high end. I quit before ToA was released because I was in the beta, and thought it only further that movement towards PvE. So yes, I did experience ToA, even if I didn't play it post-beta.
And concerning your SB's RPs, you just said you did that solo. That's entirely different from normal RvR combat, especially small scale 8v8 combat, which was the entire point. So you're missing out on that experience. Even then, you're still a pretty low RR so you don't even have a huge amount of experience.
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And concerning your SB's RPs, you just said you did that solo. That's entirely different from normal RvR combat, especially small scale 8v8 combat, which was the entire point. So you're missing out on that experience. Even then, you're still a pretty low RR so you don't even have a huge amount of experience.
No offense, but I don't play on a Zerg server. I play on a very small server. There's not umpteen jillion targets out there for constant RPs. People on servers with more people will, in general, have more RPs. On a small server, if you're not in an 'uber' guild, RPs are not exactly the easiest thing to amass. So you'd be surprised what a person can experience on less RPs on a server with a lot less people.
Edit: And by solo, I mean not in a group. SBs can't exactly run around in the open and do 8v8 engagements. Most usually, there are people around or larger battles going on that I assisted. It's just that by solo the only RPs are the ones I earn, not the ones I get just because my group did something I didn't participate in. Bajah fucked around with this message on 04-05-2004 at 05:11 PM.
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Bajah was all like:
No offense, but I don't play on a Zerg server. I play on a very small server. There's not umpteen jillion targets out there for constant RPs. People on servers with more people will, in general, have more RPs. On a small server, if you're not in an 'uber' guild, RPs are not exactly the easiest thing to amass. So you'd be surprised what a person can experience on less RPs on a server with a lot less people.
I played on Palomides, which was/is one of the smallest servers out there. People had no problem amassing RPs on there.
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Edit: And by solo, I mean not in a group. SBs can't exactly run around in the open and do 8v8 engagements. Most usually, there are people around or larger battles going on that I assisted. It's just that by solo the only RPs are the ones I earn, not the ones I get just because my group did something I didn't participate in
Exactly, you said solo. You don't experience mid or large size battles, which was exactly what I was talking about. 
All I'm saying is that there's more to a game than PVP. They add more stuff for PvE, the PVP Player whine about it... they add more stuff for PVP and the PvE players whine about that. Can't win.
I mean, they're adding a WHOLE NEW FREE expansion for RvR to counter all the ToA PvE stuff (that wasn't free!) and no one seems to mention that at all.
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From the book of Bajah, chapter 3, verse 16:
You know what? It's not worth it. You have no idea what I've done, seen, or experienced.... and there's no point in arguing about it.All I'm saying is that there's more to a game than PVP. They add more stuff for PvE, the PVP Player whine about it... they add more stuff for PVP and the PvE players whine about that. Can't win.
I mean, they're adding a WHOLE NEW FREE expansion for RvR to counter all the ToA PvE stuff (that wasn't free!) and no one seems to mention that at all.
Ok, so we agree to disagree. IMHO, the game was moving away from its original point and forcing players to PvE, rather than making it optional. *shrugs* Concerning the RvR expansion, I think its nice and all, but I'd have to go and start raising my MLs. Dammed near hard to do that on Palomides with its small population these days.
the EQ. But i only say this because being in my new guild and raiding Time is uber fun. EQ without a raid guild is no longer any fun for me, and from what you originally posted it is no longer fun for you.
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Skaw wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Yes, wait for a game that won't be out for atleast half a year! Geez guys, can you play another drum?I don't know what the low end FFXI game is like anymore, but theres a flood of newbies since the Playstation 2 version hit shelves 2 weeks ago.
The low end game SUCKS
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Indeed, I'm exactly the same. I couldn't possibly care less about WoW, but Vanguard will be the best thing on the intarweb since porn.
Bummey speaks the truth!
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There are plenty of other zones where I can get XP, but everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, goes straight to Kazham at 25 
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Sentow, Maybe stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Yeah, it's severely overcrowded in FFXI. I barely scraped up level 26 in Yuhtunga; there are at least 15 other groups in there at any give time.There are plenty of other zones where I can get XP, but everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, goes straight to Kazham at 25
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It doesn't get any easier really, believe me.
