[ 04-01-2004: Message edited by: Somthor ]
they curently recive about 18k a hour or more for their work they are holding out for 47k per hour
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Lechium said:
Hey, if Fox is gonna fuck over the simpsons migth as well let thne have atest of therie onw medicvine.
Did you turn into Mog halfway through that sentence?
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Talks to renew the thesps' contracts reportedly broke down when Fox rebuffed their request for a pay hike to $360,000 an episode each, or $8 million for the full 22-episode season. That's a major raise from the $125,000 an episode the cast raked in for seasons 13, 14, and 15.
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...the Simpsons Six have the lightest work schedule this side of Springfield, showing up at the office about two half-days a week. And considering it takes a mere six to seven hours to voice an episode, an insider close to the negotiations told Variety that "they already have the deal of a lifetime."
$360,000 per episode
6-7 hours per episode
Around $65,000 per hour for work that isn't all that hard seems like a bit too much to me. You are looking at a 6 person cast here.
[edit]Well, not too much, but not the kind of thing to strike over. A reasonable pay raise being denied would be understandable, but they were earning $125,000 an ipsode. That's nothing to complain about.[/edit] [ 04-02-2004: Message edited by: Inferno-Spirit ]
dont forget the movie is still in the works
And it's not like Matt Groening and the studio and the distributors haven't already made metric assloads of money from syndication, et al. Share the wealth a little. It's not going to break them or take food out of their families mouths, for Christ's sake.
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Somthoring:
If it were me I'd fire them and get new voice actors. most of those people have nothing else to fall back on. the simpsons is thier golden goose and they awant to kill it to make more moeny.
Actually most of the voice actors for The Simpsons have a Looooong, LOOOONG repetoire of modestly successful cartoons and video games that they act for, plus with all new voices the show would FAIL horribly.
It seems like they're asking for a lot, but remember, without them the show simply would not be what it is - all they're asking for is a bigger share of the money that they are directly responsible for generating.
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Somthor had this to say about the Spice Girls:
If it were me I'd fire them and get new voice actors. most of those people have nothing else to fall back on. the simpsons is thier golden goose and they awant to kill it to make more moeny.dont forget the movie is still in the works
You know, Fox has already killed The Simpsons right? It's called not letting it go, they've held onto the series way too long. 16 seasons is really, really old for a television show. You really don't see that many survive more than 5 these days.
If they want more money, let them have it. Work out some sort of arrangement. As has been said, it's stupid that some shows pay people insane amounts of money for shows that peter out in a year or two, but these folks can't get a raise. Granted, they don't have to look pretty, but I don't think people realize how many voices on the show the Simpsons cast does. Most of the characters you know from the series, main and secondary, are all voiced by the same people. Hank Azaria alone does a freakish slew of voices on the show.
Interesting fact, btw: Watch the Matthew Broderick "Godzilla" movie. Most of the cast of the Simpsons shows up there. The asshole anchorman, for instance, is the guy who does (amongst other voices) Kent Brockman (the asshole anchorman) from the Simpsons.
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sides those others shows where they get paid more they actors also put in more work. they might put in 40 hours or so a week.
IF you can find the average hours spent per actor for another series vs the wage they earn Id like to see the comparison.
acording to Variety the simpsons currently have the best deal on televesion for the work they do
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Somthor had this to say about Duck Tales:
acording to Variety the simpsons currently have the best deal on televesion for the work they do
Maybe the execs, but its obvious that the actors don't.
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Somthor stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
yes but they are demanding over a 100% raise. if they had asked for a 10% or even a 30% i'd be all for it.sides those others shows where they get paid more they actors also put in more work. they might put in 40 hours or so a week.
IF you can find the average hours spent per actor for another series vs the wage they earn Id like to see the comparison.
acording to Variety the simpsons currently have the best deal on televesion for the work they do
I'd be curious to see how much of a raise they got over the 16 seasons so far, given how many awards the Simpsons have gotten over the years.
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A sleep deprived Maradon! stammered:
Actually most of the voice actors for The Simpsons have a Looooong, LOOOONG repetoire of modestly successful cartoons and video games that they act for, plus with all new voices the show would FAIL horribly.It seems like they're asking for a lot, but remember, without them the show simply would not be what it is - all they're asking for is a bigger share of the money that they are directly responsible for generating.
Yeah.
Hank Azaria alone is like top dog in the industry, he does fucking EVERYTHING... I mean litterally, he is EVERYWHERE. Movies, Games, Toons, and not justa voice actor either. Live actor as well, and not half bad.
An example of misinformation, and total lack of research/bullshit opinionation, if you think the voice actors behind the Simpsons have nothing to fall back on. All of them, ALL of them, were popular and big time, long before the simpsons hit. Nancy Cartwright... I mean come on. Hell whats her name co-starred in Billy Jean and too many other movies to name, as well as CURRENTLY doing sitcoms WHILE still voicing Lisa. 
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Check out the big brain on Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael!
So long as the show continues to get any sort of remotely decent ratings, it won't die. It's too well-known. It's practically the flagship show for Fox; newer shows might crop up but the intense interest fades after a few seasons. It's taken the Simpsons this long to get anyone to say "hey this isn't quite as funny as last season".
If I recall correctly, it is the only show that has been on as long as Fox has been a network, or damn close at least.
Though I think people have been saying "hey this isn't quite as funny as last season" for the past 3 years or so. This year though has been a bit of an improvement at least IMO.
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If they want more money, let them have it. Work out some sort of arrangement. As has been said, it's stupid that some shows pay people insane amounts of money for shows that peter out in a year or two, but these folks can't get a raise. Granted, they don't have to look pretty, but I don't think people realize how many voices on the show the Simpsons cast does. Most of the characters you know from the series, main and secondary, are all voiced by the same people. Hank Azaria alone does a freakish slew of voices on the show.
I saw the Simpson's "Inside Hollywood"? special on Showtime a few months ago, and the first 10 minutes or so of the hour long show was basically spent listing the major characters each of the actors did. Hank and Dan and Nancy I think have the most characters; the ones who do Marge and Lisa have the fewest.
I've been listening to the Directors Commentaries of the 3rd Season, and that's the one they seemed to have gotten the actors in on the commentary work. It's interesting hearing them tlak to eachother and the various voices they've done through the years for the show. (Dr. Monroe was dropped primarily because Dan? hated doing that voice; the gravelly voice was the hardest for him to do. Only Krusty has survived with that sort of voice )
I wonder what this holdout will do for the commentary on the rest of the seasons? i'm definitely picking them up as fast as I can afford to (at least the next few seasons), but I've seen the episodes so much I get them mainly for the stuff syndication cut and for the commentaries; it'd be a shame for the commentaries to be toned back.
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Interesting fact, btw: Watch the Matthew Broderick "Godzilla" movie. Most of the cast of the Simpsons shows up there. The asshole anchorman, for instance, is the guy who does (amongst other voices) Kent Brockman (the asshole anchorman) from the Simpsons.
Is that before or after you gouge your eyes out? *G* Seriously though, I do recall noting all of the familiar faces/voices when I watched the movie. I haven't rewatched it in a long long time so the memories are faint.
That said, even outside of Simpson's, the cast can probably fairly easily find work, though they are probably very typecast by now. Still even if the show went off the air they'd probably have enough off royalties and guest appearances and stuff to live a Hollywood-comfortable life.
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Faelynn LeAndris was listening to Cher while typing:
Yeah.Hank Azaria alone is like top dog in the industry, he does fucking EVERYTHING... I mean litterally, he is EVERYWHERE. Movies, Games, Toons, and not justa voice actor either. Live actor as well, and not half bad.
An example of misinformation, and total lack of research/bullshit opinionation, if you think the voice actors behind the Simpsons have nothing to fall back on. All of them, ALL of them, were popular and big time, long before the simpsons hit. Nancy Cartwright... I mean come on. Hell whats her name co-starred in Billy Jean and too many other movies to name, as well as CURRENTLY doing sitcoms WHILE still voicing Lisa.
big time? half of them havnt been in a sit com since hermens head failed.
sure hank gets cameo and bit parts but i cant recall anything the others have done besides Godzilla
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Somthor said this about your mom:
big time? half of them havnt been in a sit com since hermens head failed.sure hank gets cameo and bit parts but i cant recall anything the others have done besides Godzilla
Reading Comprehension is your friend, learn it, love it. Ahem.
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All of them, ALL of them, were popular and big time, long before the simpsons hit.
And most of them remained popular and marketable long after. Nancy Cartwright, Hank Azaria, Dan especially.
The fact that you brought up Herman's Head shows that you at least TRIED to research something, but failed miserably at it of course.
Dan Castellaneta
Hank Azaria
Nancy Cartwright
Yeardly Smith
Julie Kavner
Harry Shearer
Yep, I guess you are right. None of them had careers before the Simpsons. The Simpsons both made thier careers, and was the high point of thier careers, leaving them with nothing to fall back on.
And as far as doing some research, I didn't even have to work any harder than plugging "Simpsons" into the IMDB. Faelynn LeAndris fucked around with this message on 04-03-2004 at 12:18 AM.
sure maybe they are set in the world of voices for animation but there is more to acting than jsut that. of the whole group hank as the most screen time and he still doenst genarly total more than 15 minutes in a movie. ( Mystery men is the only one i can think of where he does)
I like hank and yeardly though. still they are not worth the money asked for their curent roles. 130k a episode is a fair price and if they got a contract with a guaranteed 10% raise per season or somthing that would be fine but they want to have a 100%+ raise
its pure GREED. Somthor fucked around with this message on 04-03-2004 at 11:08 AM.
Mod fucked around with this message on 04-03-2004 at 11:17 AM.
