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Topic: Isaac Asimov spins in his grave.
Leopold
Porn maniac
posted 03-12-2004 04:30:26 PM
The official trailers for "I, Robot" complete with Will Smith as the wisecracking, dual-pistol-toting, motorcycle-riding cop and huge hordes of killer martial arts robots that do that shifty-eyed-dog thing from The Simpsons.

Why, Georgia, why.

the CGI looks like shit, too

"Leopold said it best. This is one of the few times someone besides me is right." -Mr. Parcelan
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Pancake
posted 03-12-2004 04:35:46 PM
quote:
Leopold thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
.........Isaac Asimov.........Will Smith.......

Does not compute.

[ 03-12-2004: Message edited by: Mod ]

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Niklas
hay guys whats going on in this title?
posted 03-12-2004 04:46:16 PM
Mod, I charge the murderous Futurama Lincoln in your sig to destroy the people responsible for this.

[edit: It's nowhere fucking CLOSE to the story of the book. They borrowed the title and bastardised the Three Laws but that's about it. I hate the people making this film. HATE.]

[ 03-12-2004: Message edited by: Niklas ]

Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 03-12-2004 05:58:34 PM
quote:
Mod had this to say about Pirotess:
Does not compute.
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Lee Taxx0r
Pancake
posted 03-12-2004 07:24:22 PM
I've never read it... is this as bad as starship troopers?
Niklas
hay guys whats going on in this title?
posted 03-12-2004 07:33:18 PM
quote:
Lee Taxx0r had this to say about Cuba:
I've never read it... is this as bad as starship troopers?

From the looks of it the butchering is far, far worse.

Leopold
Porn maniac
posted 03-12-2004 07:55:20 PM
Put it this way:

It's the difference between Starship Troopers, which could tentatively be called a "reinterpretation," and this, which appears to be more along the lines of a "make a random sci-fi action movie that uses a beloved franchise's namesake for recognition."

"Leopold said it best. This is one of the few times someone besides me is right." -Mr. Parcelan
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 03-12-2004 07:56:56 PM
They completely changed Bicentennial man (He was never married), but it wasn't bad.

I'll reserve judgement until I see it.

Taeolas
Pancake
posted 03-12-2004 09:12:41 PM
Seens like Asimov books are destined to always be bad movies if they ever are made into movies. Tis a pity.

Oh well, they'll be hard pressed to do worst than the movitization of "Nightfall"

Ugh *barf* Now THAT was horrible... absolutely horrible.

Pvednes
Lynched
posted 03-12-2004 09:35:19 PM
Argh.
Cherveny
Papaya
posted 03-12-2004 09:40:28 PM
Jesus, what the fuck.

This movie looks to have ABSOLUTELY NO RELATION to the book, except for having robots, and having the 3 laws.

I was initially looking forward to this movie, now.....I'm dreading it.

Mod
Pancake
posted 03-12-2004 09:53:48 PM
Seriously, I can see that you cannot translate a book to a movie 1:1 because it would in fact often make a shitty movie due to the differences between moviemaking and writing (pacing made for one sitting, visuals, the problem of monologues, etc), thus some changes from book to script are in fact needed.

I could see them expanding the role of Dr. Calvin to have someone constant to focus the story on and set it up similar to 'Four Rooms'. I could see them maybe adding another constant character or two or messing with the timeline, hell even leaving some of the stories out to make it fit the timeframe of a movie could be done without a problem. However those changes are right here, Will Smith making zingy jokes and fighting robot ninjas is waaaaaay over there.

This is probably how that movie came to pass:

Exec: SuperMedia Inc. If we've sued you you're on the wrong line.
Scriptwriter: No, I'm calling about that script I sent in, I was wondering if any decision has been made....
Exec: You mean that "Dawn of the Robots" shebang?
Scriptwriter: Actually it was called "I, Robot".
Exec: Yeah, whatever.
Scriptwriter: So, did you read it?
Exec: No, it was long, boring and artsy, I don't like that and neither does the audience, the audience likes Vin Diesel, can you get Vin Diesel in there somewhow?
Scriptwriter: I don't think that will work out`, the book does not work that was, it's based on....
Exec: Damn, ok, look just give me the short version.
Scriptwriter: It's a collection of short stories about the interactions between humans and their robot servants and the complications that arise when the emotional human mind and the cold intellect of a machine collide, the stories revolve ar....
Exec: Stop, stop stop I said give me the short version, look, this shit sounds like something a book club would discuss, give me the main action sequences, what can we put into a trailer?
Scriptwriter: There really aren't any, well you could call the part about....
Exec: What, not even a car chase? Seriously kid this shit won't fly, let me tell it to you in artsy fag speak: The book is about the collision of human and machine minds, right?
Scriptwriter: Well it's more about the interaction of....
Exec: Right, right, so let's present this conflict in a fashion the audience will understand, like a big war, with robots....no wait, robot ninjas! and Vin Diesel shooting akimbo pistols, it will be great.
*click*
Exec, to intercom: Hey Bob? Listen I have this half-done license script here, get some interns to kick it up a few notches and call Vin Diesel.....damn, Bermudas you say? Well that's dandy too, write Will Smith into it, he can make gay jokes and ride a techy motorcycle, it'll be great!

[ 03-12-2004: Message edited by: Mod ]

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 03-12-2004 11:05:39 PM
The reason why Asimov's books suck as movies is that they're dialogue-driven. Asimov seldom tells you about the situation/setting/whatever; he would rather have the characters do it for him. This translates horribly to movies, which, for the most part, are driven by what's seen, not heard. Doubly problematic is the fact that omitting dialogue, as must be done, often ruins the point of what was being said. Because of this simple fact, Asimov's movies will almost always suck.
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Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 03-12-2004 11:59:49 PM
starshiptroopers kicked ass@!

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Rabidbunnylover
Pancake
posted 03-13-2004 12:08:28 AM
quote:
Mog was naked while typing this:
starshiptroopers kicked ass@!

That's Heinlein.

Merp
Freschel Spindrift
Caucasian
posted 03-13-2004 01:59:32 AM
Harlen Ellison's version would of been a lot better IMHO. Anywho, I'll probably watch this version, not Harlens(why, because it was never been made), when it get on Sci-fi channel.
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Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 03-13-2004 02:54:54 AM
quote:
Mog impressed everyone with:
starshiptroopers kicked ass@!

Starship troopers, when compared to the book, sucked MAJOR MULTITUDES OF ASS. I want to see the giant gorilla-like suits, flying around laying bombs that shout "I am a bomb! I will go off in 30 seconds!" in an alien language before they LEVEL A CITY BLOCK.

And Asimov movies don't suck. Bicentennial man, while not faithful to the book besides the bare bones, almost always makes me cry at the end.

Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 03-13-2004 04:22:18 AM
quote:
Delphi Aegis said this about your mom:
"I am a bomb! I will go off in 30 seconds!"

I need to read this now.

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