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Topic: PS-2 , Xbox, Gamecube
Aaron (the good one)
posted 02-16-2004 10:25:29 PM
What differences can be talked about between them? What I have right now is:

  • Price
  • Tech Specs
  • Games - amount/how often/general age group
  • Game publisher support

    I can't think of anything else to talk about and this has to be a 10 minutes presentation.

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    I am Canadian and I hate The Tragically Hip
    Alek
    Not The Rapist
    posted 02-16-2004 10:28:21 PM
    X-Box is HUGE lol!
    "Love wisdom, and she will make you great. Embrace her, and she will bring you honour. She will be your crowning glory."
    -Proverbs 4:8-9
    Maradon!
    posted 02-16-2004 10:29:13 PM
    quote:
    Delidgamonding:

  • Games - amount/how often/general age group

  • The Gamecube is generally reserved to an exclusively highbrow, mature crowd that is stimulated by more intellectual pursuits and accurate depictions of realistic, but emotionally moving scenarios.

    Maradon!
    posted 02-16-2004 10:30:32 PM
    By the way, the X-Box is the most technically advanced console when you examine hardware alone.

    Don't let the lamecube fanbois fool you with their fuzzy math.

    Sentow, Maybe
    Pancake
    posted 02-16-2004 10:30:47 PM
    Vendor reputation. Some people refused (and still refuse, I would guess) to buy an X-Box because it was developed by the Galactic Empire.

    EDIT: For example. You could make similar points for Nintendo and Sony, as well.

    [ 02-16-2004: Message edited by: Sentow, Maybe ]

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    Nwist, Who?
    Nwist
    posted 02-16-2004 10:33:04 PM
    x-cox rofl
    Mog
    not really a mmembe rof tis boered
    posted 02-16-2004 10:38:25 PM
    copntorler ergonnomics

    Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
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    Akiraiu Zenko
    Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
    posted 02-16-2004 10:46:56 PM
    quote:
    From the book of Maradon the Dumbleton, chapter 3, verse 16:
    By the way, the X-Box is the most technically advanced console when you examine hardware alone.

    Don't let the lamecube fanbois fool you with their fuzzy math.


    Marabill speaks the truth. Whenever something comes out multi-console, we always go for the Xbox version. It's almost always prettier.

    The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
    Somu Icewalker
    Also known as Diet Dr. Evil
    posted 02-16-2004 10:59:26 PM
    quote:
    Delidgamond had this to say about Tron:
    What differences can be talked about between them? What I have right now is:

  • Price
  • Tech Specs
  • Games - amount/how often/general age group
  • Game publisher support

    I can't think of anything else to talk about and this has to be a 10 minutes presentation.


  • Difference in first party controlers (ie Xbox's first and S controlers vs the Gamecube's wired and wavebird\
  • Stats on how many units have been sold in the US and Japan
  • Palador ChibiDragon
    Dismembered
    posted 02-17-2004 01:17:24 AM
    Portability (GC is small and has a handle, X-Box is... well, you know)
    Multiple player ability (PS2 only has two control ports, to get 4 you need to buy the multi-tap)
    Versatility (GC can't play DVDs, PS2 can, X-Box can only if you buy the extra part)

    Aerodynamics (which would fly better if launched from a catapult)
    Density (which sinks faster)
    Ability to be used as a replacement for a hockey puck
    Amount of evil spirits contained within
    Results of a feline preference test (take 3 "helpers", tape one console to each, and throw them into a lion cage)

    Hey, you never said that it is a serious presentation, just that you have to fill 10 minutes.

    I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
    Chalesm
    There is no innuendo in this title.
    posted 02-17-2004 01:37:24 AM
    Well, as a bit of a variation on publisher support and "how often", you can go into overall company policy. That should easily fill however much time you need.

    You know, Nintendo's primary focus on big-name, first party titles developed by themselves with emphasis on new types of gameplay, and various reasons they do (the company line: so they're all pure quality!! aka: they scared away everyone else long, long ago).

    X-box's emphasis on graphics and the "next step in gaming quality" stuff, rather than innovation or diversity, persay. Very much a middle place between sony and nintendo, some first party, a lot of 3rd party, and a middling library. Very much the newcomer who has been proving themselves well.

    Sony's policy of "we don't care if your neigbor's dog makes it, It's okay by us!" that has served them so well (scarily well). Combined with backwards compatibility, why their developer friendly policy has let them become the local juggernaut (if there's a niche market, sony's got a game for it). Their constant work with increasing market share through both their footprint on the gaming store's wall, and in expanding into portable soon.

    That kind of thing.

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    Faelynn LeAndris
    Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
    posted 02-17-2004 01:58:12 AM
    quote:
    This insanity brought to you by Maradon the Dumbleton:
    By the way, the X-Box is the most technically advanced console when you examine hardware alone.


    Don't let the GameCube haters mislead you into believing hardware numbers being the end-all.

    [ 02-17-2004: Message edited by: Faelynn LeAndris ]


    My LAUNCHCast Station
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    I got lost for an hour and became god.
    Aaron (the good one)
    posted 02-17-2004 01:59:28 AM
    I know hardware isn't worth shit for gaming. You can have the top of the line PC parts and call it a console. If the game sucks, the console sucks.
    Galbadia Hotel - Video Game Music
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    Faelynn LeAndris
    Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
    posted 02-17-2004 02:02:13 AM
    quote:
    Delidgamond wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
    I know hardware isn't worth shit for gaming. You can have the top of the line PC parts and call it a console. If the game sucks, the console sucks.

    Actually that was more pointing to the technical aspect that the GameCube has repeatedly outshined the X-Box even with X-Box having the higher numbers and bigger hardware. It's all about the managment when the numbers are as they are now.


    My LAUNCHCast Station
    "Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
    I got lost for an hour and became god.
    Aaron (the good one)
    posted 02-17-2004 02:05:18 AM
    I basically have to make a presentation on what I feel is the best choice out of the consoles on the market. Now dealing that I have my personal preference that I don't inflict on others, I give them a choice based on different genres they like.

    RPGs - PS2
    Platformer - PS2
    *Get your friends over and play some multiplayer games* - GC
    Looking for something for kids - GC (hey, it's their target audience so stfu)
    Multiplayer 1 player - Xbox for online gaming
    FPS - Xbox
    Sports - on all systems but Xbox for better graphics

    The only other factor is that you get 4 games when you buy a GC (zelda bonus) or you get Prince of Persia.

    With Xbox you get MechAssault and KOTOR

    With PS-2 you get...some shitty game.

    Galbadia Hotel - Video Game Music
    I am Canadian and I hate The Tragically Hip
    Faelynn LeAndris
    Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
    posted 02-17-2004 02:13:31 AM
    quote:
    Delidgamond had this to say about Robocop:
    I basically have to make a presentation on what I feel is the best choice out of the consoles on the market. Now dealing that I have my personal preference that I don't inflict on others, I give them a choice based on different genres they like.

    RPGs - PS2

    Platformer - PS2

    *Get your friends over and play some multiplayer games* - GC
    Looking for something for kids - GC (hey, it's their target audience so stfu)
    Multiplayer 1 player - Xbox for online gaming
    FPS - Xbox
    Sports - on all systems but Xbox for better graphics

    The only other factor is that you get 4 games when you buy a GC (zelda bonus) or you get Prince of Persia.

    With Xbox you get MechAssault and KOTOR

    With PS-2 you get...some shitty game.


    RPGs - PS2 PS2 owns this, so yes.

    Platformer - PS2 or NGC, althout Larger Library dominates on the PS2, then you have to start getting into what are GOOD and BAD platformers, PS2 has a larger library, but it has a larger abundancy of crap too. So this would be something you'd want to sell them on the Library aspect for.

    *Get your friends over and play some multiplayer games* - GC Owns this market
    Looking for something for kids - GC (hey, it's their target audience so stfu) It's not thier target audience, not at all, however they do adhere to the games for all area. So the E rating is domninant. Being All Audience does not automatically eqaute to Kid. In fact, checking game for game. The X-Box actually has an equal number of Kid oriented games, and the PS2 also offers a staggering variety of them. You can offer the kid friendly category to all three systems to your customers. Most of the more populate Mature rated games are available on all three systems. With the exceptions of easch systems exclusives.

    Multiplayer 1 player - Xbox for online gaming, X-Box does indeed own this, but I'd personally still recomend a PC.

    FPS - Xbox Yes

    Sports - on all systems but Xbox for better graphics, Yes and No, it depends, there have been varied games released on both the NGC and X-Box that are equal, or one excelling above the other. However, Sports Online, is X-Box territory.

    The only other factor is that you get 4 games when you buy a GC (zelda bonus) or you get Prince of Persia.

    With Xbox you get MechAssault and KOTOR

    With PS-2 you get...some shitty game

    [ 02-17-2004: Message edited by: Faelynn LeAndris ]


    My LAUNCHCast Station
    "Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
    I got lost for an hour and became god.
    Skaw
    posted 02-17-2004 02:39:46 AM
    quote:
    Zephyer Kyuukaze had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
    Marabill speaks the truth. Whenever something comes out multi-console, we always go for the Xbox version. It's almost always prettier.

    One of the not always is Prince of Persia, like I said in Snootas thread a few days ago. GameCubes version looks better, but they sacrifice load times for it.

    Elvish Crack Piper
    Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
    posted 02-17-2004 03:47:19 AM
    How much of a load time annoyance is there?

    ON the DvD thing, Im aware of a remote for the X-Box to use with it, but Ive not seen one persion have a remote for a PS2, so Im going to assume there isnt one is large scale production.

    (Insert Funny Phrase Here)
    Maradon!
    posted 02-17-2004 03:52:14 AM
    quote:
    Elvish Crack Pipering:
    ON the DvD thing, Im aware of a remote for the X-Box to use with it, but Ive not seen one persion have a remote for a PS2, so Im going to assume there isnt one is large scale production.

    yes there is and its beter than the x-box remote

    Hireko
    Kill a fish before breakfast each day
    posted 02-17-2004 04:14:14 AM
    Xbox comes with 4 controller ports without buying add-ons.
    Those who dance are thought insane by those who can't hear the music.
    Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
    I posted in a title changing thread.
    posted 02-17-2004 04:15:26 AM
    quote:
    So quoth Mog:
    copntorler ergonnomics

    Hell yes. PS2 controller is most comfortable, X-Box is least. I hate that bloody thing. Gamecube is a little of column A, a little of column B...though why so many fight games (MK A for instance) force you to use the little plus-shaped button to move is beyond me.

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    Rodent King
    Stabbed in the Eye
    posted 02-17-2004 04:24:33 AM
    Add a little history of the brands. Nintendo helped shape the home console industry, Sony helped make the cartridge obsolete (Shut it, Jaguar and Sega CD don't count!), while Microsoft is just making a computer for games.
    My inner child is bigger than my outer adult.
    Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
    I posted in a title changing thread.
    posted 02-17-2004 04:29:27 AM
    quote:
    Maradon the Dumbleton had this to say about the Spice Girls:
    yes there is and its beter than the x-box remote

    How so? My friend Leonard had the PS2 one. Looked like a normal remote to me. Is the X-Box one supersized or something?

    Another point is that the NGC and X-Box appear to have gotten the hang of cel shading earlier than PS2, but at this point PS2 has caught up. Likewise the graphics of PS2's Baldur's Gate: DA2 is pretty close to the version from the Cube. Little sharper in some respects (but then it's been a year or two).

    When is someone going to whip out the progressive scan arguments? Those are always fun, given that it's something you have to be trained to see a difference in.

    Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
    "All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
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    Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
    I posted in a title changing thread.
    posted 02-17-2004 04:30:45 AM
    quote:
    Rodent King painfully thought these words up:
    Add a little history of the brands. Nintendo helped shape the home console industry, Sony helped make the cartridge obsolete (Shut it, Jaguar and Sega CD don't count!), while Microsoft is just making a computer for games.

    I had a Sega CD

    Did anyone buy the Jaguar? That's like the Turbografx 16 for CD game consoles.

    Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
    "All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
    *Also Lyinar's attack panda

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    Elvish Crack Piper
    Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
    posted 02-17-2004 08:14:28 AM
    The x-box one is green and curves really well to my hand as well as being able to do anything, skips ff up to 32 x, play pause stop.

    Its killer.

    I miss the dreamcast controller.

    (Insert Funny Phrase Here)
    Aaron (the good one)
    posted 02-17-2004 12:37:08 PM
    How would explain what a Platform game is to someone who doesn't know what you are talking about without giving any game examples?
    Galbadia Hotel - Video Game Music
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    Faelynn LeAndris
    Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
    posted 02-17-2004 12:43:51 PM
    quote:
    Delidgamond had this to say about (_|_):
    How would explain what a Platform game is to someone who doesn't know what you are talking about without giving any game examples?

    Action Oriented, Minor Puzzles involving jumping and exploration, usually with recovery style objectives. Game Level Based instead of Character level Based..


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    "Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
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    Bloodsage
    Heart Attack
    posted 02-17-2004 12:49:41 PM
    quote:
    A sleep deprived Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael stammered:
    Hell yes. PS2 controller is most comfortable, X-Box is least. I hate that bloody thing. Gamecube is a little of column A, a little of column B...though why so many fight games (MK A for instance) force you to use the little plus-shaped button to move is beyond me.

    Funny: I'd say the opposite. The X-Box's original controller isn't designed with a 10-year-old kid in mind--it fits the adult hand. I get all sorts of cramped when I use my wife's S. . .and don't even want to think about the agony of a PS2 or GC controller.

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    can you please fix my title
    posted 02-17-2004 12:51:40 PM
    I'll stick to my pc.
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    Aaron (the good one)
    posted 02-17-2004 12:52:30 PM
    Gamecube has the Resident Evil rights correct?
    Galbadia Hotel - Video Game Music
    I am Canadian and I hate The Tragically Hip
    Faelynn LeAndris
    Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
    posted 02-17-2004 12:54:53 PM
    quote:
    Bloodsage had this to say about Cuba:
    Funny: I'd say the opposite. The X-Box's original controller isn't designed with a 10-year-old kid in mind--it fits the adult hand. I get all sorts of cramped when I use my wife's S. . .and don't even want to think about the agony of a PS2 or GC controller.

    It's not so much the size as the absurb layout scheme, which is just downright uncomfortable in most cases. I have rather large hands, and the standard NGC controlers are too small, although some third party ones are just the right size. However the layout and controls are SO much more comfortable. I couldn't STAND my X-Box controler.

    The standard PS2 controler is also a bit to small, again third parties make a larger version that is more comfortable. Again however the layout is much more convient.

    I personally find the X-Box Control overly clunky and painful to use, and it has nothing at all to do with its size.

    [ 02-17-2004: Message edited by: Faelynn LeAndris ]


    My LAUNCHCast Station
    "Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
    I got lost for an hour and became god.
    Faelynn LeAndris
    Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
    posted 02-17-2004 12:56:11 PM
    quote:
    Delidgamond spewed forth this undeniable truth:
    Gamecube has the Resident Evil rights correct?

    Yes. The whole Series, and the newest installment exclusive.


    My LAUNCHCast Station
    "Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
    I got lost for an hour and became god.
    Aaron (the good one)
    posted 02-17-2004 01:42:15 PM
    How much would wager JUST the Game Zone speakers would cost?
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