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Aaron (the good one)
posted 01-07-2004 05:35:57 PM
Is sign language a universal language? If I learn it in Canada, will I be able to go to Spain and communicate with anyone who knows sign language over there?
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posted 01-07-2004 05:36:41 PM
It's always English-based, afaik.
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Phoenix
Pancake
posted 01-07-2004 06:40:37 PM
Some signs are fairly universal. Others depend on who you're signing with (geographic location and what they've been taught). I've been slowly learning the language and taking courses in ASL. I've had a few different professors, who differ with some of their signs (same English word, two different signs). ASL is the fourth most common language used in North America. It shares similarities with French SL..

Edit: I'm fairly sure there's a Spanish SL as well.. there would be similarities, though I'm not sure how similar.

[ 01-07-2004: Message edited by: Phoenix ]

Pvednes
Lynched
posted 01-07-2004 08:46:03 PM
There are various dialects of it that can be quite different.
Snoota
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posted 01-07-2004 11:14:54 PM
I saw this couple arguing in sign language once.

The next day I was ashamed that I couldn't stop laughing for an hour. But God damn was it funny.

bob12121212
Pancake
posted 01-08-2004 08:17:03 AM
quote:
FUCKING IDIOT wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Is sign language a universal language? If I learn it in Canada, will I be able to go to Spain and communicate with anyone who knows sign language over there?


The language is called AMERICAN sign language, each language has there own version. IMagine CHINESE sign language, you'd be there all day just saigning one word.

Elvish Crack Piper
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posted 01-08-2004 08:34:54 AM
You know that they dont spell out each word letter by letter.

I could say "LOOK! Squirrels are fucking" in 3-4 signs.

Maybe I should explain myself.

I was taught a semester of ASL in Jr. High.

The teacher was a dumbass.

She didnt want to confuse the students with who might accidently swear, so she taugt everyone what each curse was, and the regular word.

Make an "I love you" sign and clap with it for fucking, but if you crimp the end fingers it means squirrel instead, so alternating natural means squirrels fucking.

So I eaither point and do the motions, or do the point at my eyes then point and do the motion.

Jebus its 534am....

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Masamune
Pancake
posted 01-08-2004 10:12:41 AM
It is english based, and it's real name is American Sign Language, some Family friends have a deaf son so I learned ASL.
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posted 01-08-2004 11:40:14 AM
each country has their own different version but I think it likly be easier to try to talk than with the spoken word, you can always try to fingerspell.

I took ASL in college because I refused to take spainish. catch is I never used it after I graduated and now I pretty much forgot it.

what was kinda odd was one day the class went to a blind/deaf school and you had to talk to the person while they held your hands so they could read what you were saying.

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
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posted 01-08-2004 12:15:37 PM
If people are actually deaf, they usually learn to read lips as well. As long as you get their attention and make sure they know you're speaking, you shouldn't have a problem if sign language is different.

I remember back in fifth grade we learned a bunch of sign language for some "heal the world" song by Michael jackson, or something. It was stupid, and I can't remember any of it.

Mortious
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posted 01-08-2004 12:37:47 PM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Masamune:
It is english based, and it's real name is American Sign Language, some Family friends have a deaf son so I learned ASL.

Over there, yes.

British sign language was the first and most widely-used one.

Phoenix
Pancake
posted 01-08-2004 01:22:48 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
If people are actually deaf, they usually learn to read lips as well.

Not always true.. as far as English is concerned, only 33% of the language is able to be lipread. In my courses for ASL, we're taught to 'mouth' what we're saying in English as well as signing.. though that might be more of a benefit to us as hearing students learning ASL.

[ 01-08-2004: Message edited by: Phoenix ]

Kaglaaz How'ler
Pancake
posted 01-08-2004 01:33:41 PM
There are definately different sign languages around the world. I have taken some ASL and had some friends who were deaf. They've told me about some of the different signs that we'd find really funny. Finnish Sign Language for a male is a middle finger in the air as an example.
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