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diadem
eet bugz
posted 01-06-2004 08:08:05 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3879012/

What the fuck is wrong with people? Who the hell plays paintball without a mask? You will get banned from any reputable paintball facility for the shit they are talking about. That isn't paintball. That's horrible parenting.

edit: As for the injuries trippling.... how many more people started playing and how many more injuries have there been? If the numbers increse in the same way, then what the hell is your point?


- Don't put your fingers into a wall socket
- If you have childern, don't let them play in traffic. Don't let them put glue in their eyes or sniff it. Don't let them drink bleach. Don't let them play paintball without a damn mask. You teach kids about the safteys of using a hammer or an electric saw or a fucking toaster near the shower, it's the same with paintball and wearing a mask.

[ 01-06-2004: Message edited by: diadem ]

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Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 01-06-2004 08:10:32 AM
Thats messed up, who playts without amask? My worst injury has been on my lower arm, while Ive had dozens, if not over a blasts of paint to my mask(most often from misted shots at a fence or something.
(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
nem-x
posted 01-06-2004 08:11:38 AM
They're smurt. I wouldn't even go paintballing without a longsleeved shirt and pants, let alone without a mask.
Aury
My hair is a deadly weapon
posted 01-06-2004 09:36:57 AM
psst, yo, msn.. I'd wager that there are probably roughly triple the number of people playing paintball now.. So it'd be natural that injuries to stupid people rise along those lines... =) they didnt seem to mention that
Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 01-06-2004 09:42:57 AM
Can you honestly say it would be a bad idea to require an adult to buy the paintball equipment?

I agree with your assesment that this is batshit crazy analysis, but I don't think it is that bad of an idea. Could help prevent vandalism and accidents.

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
diadem
eet bugz
posted 01-06-2004 09:50:20 AM
quote:
Neo-Blindy had this to say about (_|_):
Can you honestly say it would be a bad idea to require an adult to buy the paintball equipment?

I agree with your assesment that this is batshit crazy analysis, but I don't think it is that bad of an idea. Could help prevent vandalism and accidents.


I'm fairly sure that you have to be 16 to buy paintball equipment already. Which somoene who has the sense to know to use the masks in the first place is purchasing them.

play da best song in da world or me eet your soul
Masamune
Pancake
posted 01-06-2004 10:37:49 AM
I've never been injured playing paintball, but those frozen paintballs still hurt...
"Because ten billion years' time is so fragile, so ephemeral...
it arouses such a bittersweet, almost heartbreaking fondness." ~ Now and Then, Here and There

"If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." ~ Magus

bob12121212
Pancake
posted 01-06-2004 12:24:33 PM
quote:
So quoth Masamune:
I've never been injured playing paintball, but those frozen paintballs still hurt...

YOU PLAY PAINTBALL??!! I never would have thought!
Masamune
Pancake
posted 01-06-2004 12:45:35 PM
quote:
The Azure Knight got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
YOU PLAY PAINTBALL??!! I never would have thought!

Then don't think!

"Because ten billion years' time is so fragile, so ephemeral...
it arouses such a bittersweet, almost heartbreaking fondness." ~ Now and Then, Here and There

"If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." ~ Magus

bob12121212
Pancake
posted 01-06-2004 12:49:59 PM
quote:
A sleep deprived Masamune stammered:
Then don't think!


You just don't seem like the type of person to actually get out and do somthing active. You seem more like the type to play a virtual paintball game!

Masamune
Pancake
posted 01-06-2004 01:28:53 PM
quote:
The Azure Knight's fortune cookie read:
You just don't seem like the type of person to actually get out and do somthing active. You seem more like the type to play a virtual paintball game!


I have never played a virtual paintball game, and things are not always what they seem.

"Because ten billion years' time is so fragile, so ephemeral...
it arouses such a bittersweet, almost heartbreaking fondness." ~ Now and Then, Here and There

"If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." ~ Magus

Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 01-06-2004 02:30:31 PM
The media LOVES to report bad news. Even if said bad news has to be slightly altered or certain key facts ignored.
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-Mayer Rothschild
Ryutsuke
Pancake
posted 01-06-2004 03:08:04 PM
Jesus, when I played paintball in a friend's backyard we all wore our face masks. Sometimes we were a man short of even teams because one of us had lost our mask or broke our mask.

You have to be the dumbest person to not wear protective gear when playing paint ball.

Kaglaaz How'ler
Pancake
posted 01-06-2004 03:43:58 PM
Lets take this a bit further.
I play paintball and happen to also do a bit of work for my local field as a ref or doing other things such as web and computer consulting to get reduced rates, free paint etc etc.

I can count on my right hand how many injuries there have been at our field since 1997 when I started playing. Eye injuries = ZERO

For the sake of arguement lets say that of the 8 million people that played paintball in 1999 that 2500 of them got an injury of some sort.
2500/8,000,000 = 0.0003125 or 0.03125% rate of injury.
Pretty low percentage of injury if you ask me. It's still the safest 'extreme' sport out there.

The TV execs need to watchdog themselves if you ask me. You have no idea how many shows I've seen on TV with people playing paintball and they're not wearing thier masks. There is always at least one (Insert War) Veteran who also happens to have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder who goes postal on someone or high schoolers head to class with thier paintball guns to wreak havoc. etc etc etc.

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diadem
eet bugz
posted 01-06-2004 03:53:01 PM
I wouldn't call it the safest. I walk away from skydiving and am fine the next day. I don't get scratched from mountain climbing and I don't even get winded spelunking (granted underwater spelunking is for people with death wishes), and I don't get welts from kyacking. I’m pretty beat up after I play a good game of paintball after being in the woods for hours. Once it hurt when I laughed for a week. You will get welts, and it might hurt a bit when you get hit. It's expected. But safety gear is there for a reason. I've never played with anyone who isn't strict about that. Take off hour helmet for any reason and you go home.

The fact a lot of these injuries are from kids shows that it's the parents fault. They let their kids do whatever they want without realizing that there are any precautions that must be taken. The article's problems are because of abuse of equipment from irresponsible people, simple as that. Not the sport. If it was becuase of defective masks it would be a seprate issue.

As a side note, I dislike sports being called “extreme.” Do something because you enjoy it, not for your damn image.

[ 01-06-2004: Message edited by: diadem ]

play da best song in da world or me eet your soul
Masamune
Pancake
posted 01-06-2004 04:41:52 PM
quote:
This one time, at Kaglaaz How'ler camp:
Lets take this a bit further.
I play paintball and happen to also do a bit of work for my local field as a ref or doing other things such as web and computer consulting to get reduced rates, free paint etc etc.

I can count on my right hand how many injuries there have been at our field since 1997 when I started playing. Eye injuries = ZERO

For the sake of arguement lets say that of the 8 million people that played paintball in 1999 that 2500 of them got an injury of some sort.
2500/8,000,000 = 0.0003125 or 0.03125% rate of injury.
Pretty low percentage of injury if you ask me. It's still the safest 'extreme' sport out there.

The TV execs need to watchdog themselves if you ask me. You have no idea how many shows I've seen on TV with people playing paintball and they're not wearing thier masks. There is always at least one (Insert War) Veteran who also happens to have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder who goes postal on someone or high schoolers head to class with thier paintball guns to wreak havoc. etc etc etc.


Thanks, Sidney.

"Because ten billion years' time is so fragile, so ephemeral...
it arouses such a bittersweet, almost heartbreaking fondness." ~ Now and Then, Here and There

"If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." ~ Magus

Arttemis
Not Squire... but a guitar!
posted 01-06-2004 06:54:51 PM
Longsleeve shirt and pants? Wuss. The hardcore only wear shorts and a t-shirt.

They wear masks, too, of course. What kind of moron goes out without a mask?

Peter
Pancake
posted 01-06-2004 11:52:56 PM
quote:
Arttemis attempted to be funny by writing:
...They wear masks, too, of course. What kind of moron goes out without a mask?

An Overachieving Moron?

My buddy used to play paint ball, now he plays with airsoft guns.

Dr Cysa
Angsty Mcangst
posted 01-06-2004 11:58:09 PM
I get no page, but from what I have read so far I can think of one reason they may not have been wearing a mask. Heat.

I went paint balling with Demos and a few of the others for his birthday once, and during the thing it was pretty damn hot out, and unfortunately my mask kept fogging up and I couldn't see a damn thing. This was very bad concerning we were trying to sneak through a forest area. I couldn't see a thing and ended up getting ambushed. So while I was sitting out, I asked the ref, and he let me take off my mask and clean it(well he cleaned it, while I sat with my head down and my face covered between my leggs in the tornado drill position).

its the only possible explanation I could think of.

I don't discriminate...I hate everyone.
Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 01-06-2004 11:58:52 PM
Only parents are allowed to buy or obtain sticks now, you might put an eye out with that!
Masamune
Pancake
posted 01-08-2004 10:23:20 AM
This just goes to show how INCREDIBLY STUPID people can be...
"Because ten billion years' time is so fragile, so ephemeral...
it arouses such a bittersweet, almost heartbreaking fondness." ~ Now and Then, Here and There

"If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." ~ Magus

diadem
eet bugz
posted 01-08-2004 10:30:05 AM
quote:
Cysa The Clown had this to say about Optimus Prime:
I get no page, but from what I have read so far I can think of one reason they may not have been wearing a mask. Heat.

I went paint balling with Demos and a few of the others for his birthday once, and during the thing it was pretty damn hot out, and unfortunately my mask kept fogging up and I couldn't see a damn thing. This was very bad concerning we were trying to sneak through a forest area. I couldn't see a thing and ended up getting ambushed. So while I was sitting out, I asked the ref, and he let me take off my mask and clean it(well he cleaned it, while I sat with my head down and my face covered between my leggs in the tornado drill position).

its the only possible explanation I could think of.



The ref should be fired. Either don't play or get a mask with two layers that's fogproof. Mine is. Never take your mask off in the play area, ever.

play da best song in da world or me eet your soul
Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 01-08-2004 04:02:22 PM
I could, concievable do it, maybe, if my back was turned away from the bunker in a game that I knew they could only shoot from one direction or if I could face a big tree or something, and then just to lift the mask up a little so I could get a cloth on my face.

Maybe

But then Id freak out and cover my face again as soon as I did that.

But I wouldnt, because taking mask of midmatch = dumb

(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Sarudani Miolnir
Old-school poster
posted 01-08-2004 05:10:49 PM
quote:
There was much rejoicing when diadem said this:
The ref should be fired. Either don't play or get a mask with two layers that's fogproof. Mine is. Never take your mask off in the play area, ever.

Depends on the climate, I've got a mask with both the thermal lens and a fan, and at our field back in Florida I could fog it completely over in under a minute. I agree about not removing you goggles, but it's been my experience that you're much more likely to get an eye injury in the staging areas where you're not required to wear them rather than on the field where you are.

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 01-08-2004 05:20:45 PM
quote:
Reynar had this to say about Robocop:
The media LOVES to report bad news. Even if said bad news has to be slightly altered or certain key facts ignored.

Imagine how much better the news would be if they were like Tom Tucker and Diane Simmons from "Family Guy."

Diane: "Our top story today: I will be playing the lead role in the Quahog Player's production of 'The King and I.'"

Tom: "As a followup story, I probably won't be going to see the play because it's going to be lousy."

Diane: "This just in: Tom's a jealous, no-talent closet case."

Tom: "Thank you. And now we go live to Diane being a cold, frigid bitch; Diane?"

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