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Rodent King
Stabbed in the Eye
posted 12-16-2003 10:35:04 PM
Does song haste stack with spell haste?
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JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 12-16-2003 10:38:35 PM
Normally no. There are some special kinds of song haste that will stack, though.
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posted 12-16-2003 10:38:42 PM
yes
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Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 12-16-2003 10:39:57 PM
No, except for a couple songs that were specifically made to stack and break the haste cap.
 
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posted 12-16-2003 10:42:37 PM
yep it does or atleast the 65th bards i played with had it
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Rodent King
Stabbed in the Eye
posted 12-16-2003 10:42:56 PM
Examples? Or is it only the epic stuff?

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Densetsu
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posted 12-16-2003 10:44:44 PM
The War Song of the Vah Shir, and the other Vah Shir song, are the only songs with haste that stacks with spell haste. They also allow you to break the 100% haste cap and go up to like 115% or so.
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Batty
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posted 12-16-2003 10:45:34 PM
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Examples? Or is only the epic stuff?

The Vah Shir haste songs stack with spell haste. Forget the proper names.

Taylen
Pancake
posted 12-16-2003 11:16:08 PM
Any of the haste songs listed on Lucy's spell info as v3 haste will I believe.
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Espio Idsavant
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posted 12-16-2003 11:54:55 PM
Heh, it is not as simple as a yes or no answer.

The answer is either "Yes, fully" or "No, only the stats"

Bard songs that are "overhastes" and the haste and any stat components stack with other spell hastes:

50 - Melody of Erjav (5% haste, 6 AC, brass instrument required)
52 - Battlecry of the Vah Shir (15% haste)
60 - Composition of Erjav (10% haste, 9 AC, brass req)
60 - Warsong of the Vah Shir (25% haste)
64 - Rizlona's Call of Flame (30% haste, 15%+ to direct damage nukes)
65 - Call of the Muse (30% haste, 15%+ to dd nukes and dots)

Bard songs that are normal hastes, and the haste component does NOT stack with other hastes, but the stat bonuses still count:

10 - Anthem de Arms (10% haste, 37 Str)
36 - Vilia's Verses of Celerity (20% haste, 37 Agi, 9 AC)
42 - McVaxius' Berserker Crescendo (24% haste, 22 Str, 9 AC)
50 - Verses of Victory (30% haste, 30 Agi, 15 AC, 30 Str)
54 - Vilia's Chorus of Celerity (45% haste)
57 - McVaxius' Rousing Rondo (23% haste, 22 Str, 15 ATK, 8 DS)
62 - Warsong of Zek (60% haste, 37 Str, 18 ATK, 15 DS)
Epic proc - Dance of the Blades (55% haste, 30 Str, 30 Atk)

All numbers above are max level values (ie, Berserker Cresh starts at 18% haste, 15 Str and 6 AC at level 42, but gets better with levels). Numbers do not include instrument modifiers (ie, holding the epic multiplies all values except for haste by 1.8 for most songs).

Confused yet?

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Valso
Pancake
posted 12-17-2003 12:42:44 AM
quote:
Espio Idsavant impressed everyone with:
Heh, it is not as simple as a yes or no answer.


Bard songs that are normal hastes, and the haste component does NOT stack with other hastes, but the stat bonuses still count


Whoa, really?

I was always under the impression it was { itemHaste + spellHaste + songHaste < maxHaste + overHasteSong }

So, if there is a spell haste that is higher then my song haste, I shouldn't bother hasting?

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Espio Idsavant
You have gotten better at Being a Lush! (200)
posted 12-17-2003 12:48:52 AM
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How.... Valso.... uughhhhhh:
Whoa, really?

I was always under the impression it was { itemHaste + spellHaste + songHaste < maxHaste + overHasteSong }

So, if there is a spell haste that is higher then my song haste, I shouldn't bother hasting?


It is { itemHaste + HighestOf(spellHaste,songHaste) + overHasteSong }

Its a judgement call really if you want to sing a normal haste song with a chanter/shammy around. Unless resists are needed, I generally sing the normal haste song for the stat bonuses, and to cover haste if it drops or gets dispelled.

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