Not poking fun at the president in spite or anything, it just reminds me of the time that VP Quayle misspelled "Potato" (I think it was him...was so long ago [ 12-03-2003: Message edited by: Katrinity ]
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El Imán Grande! had this to say about Cuba:
Seems hardly news-worthy to me.
I know. Must be a slow news day.
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Ace in the Spade had this to say about pies:
I just enjoyed the fact that the kid stopped him midsentence. Its funny when the only one with enough balls to correct the moron is a prepubescent 6, err 7 year old.
That makes Ace a saaaad panda. 
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So quoth Ace in the Spade:
I just enjoyed the fact that the kid stopped him midsentence. Its funny when the only one with enough balls to correct the moron is a prepubescent 6, err 7 year old.
He'll be dead in a month.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Ace in the Spade said:
I just enjoyed the fact that the kid stopped him midsentence. Its funny when the only one with enough balls to correct the moron is a prepubescent 6, err 7 year old.
Had to turn a fun thread into a wannabe political flame, didn't you.
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Ace in the Spade's fortune cookie read:
I just enjoyed the fact that the kid stopped him midsentence. Its funny when the only one with enough balls to correct the moron is a prepubescent 6, err 7 year old.
You know, you're calling him a moron when he was smart enough to become the President of the United States of America. If that makes him a moron then what would that make you?
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Naimah's account was hax0red to write:
You know, you're calling him a moron when he was smart enough to become the President of the United States of America. If that makes him a moron then what would that make you?
I don't think his intellegence had a whole lot to do with him getting elected.
Edit: Go typos! [ 12-04-2003: Message edited by: Naimah ]
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Naimah obviously shouldn't have said:
You know, you're calling him a moron when he was smart enough to become the President of the United States of America. If that makes him a moron then what would that make you?
Intelligence doesn't have a whole lot to do with being elected president.
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Cowboy Darius had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Intelligence doesn't have a whole lot to do with being elected president.
Being crafty does. Look at FDR. He fooled everyon.
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the SNL skits do it best, where dana carvy and will ferrel lampoon the whole thing.
its jsut as well the UNpresident stole the election, I didnt care for gore either. and it created the precedent in the Supreme court where they can now make a a ruleing such that their ruling is not a precendent.
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El Imán Grande! thought about the meaning of life:
Seems hardly news-worthy to me.
I totaly agree!
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
no no..."Couting". We must use our fact checker to figure out where Katrinity's dictionary went.
Shoosh, it was a typo
<has Deth bound, gagged and stuffed into a large Christmas present box for Lyinar to open on the 25th> ^.^
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Somthor wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Bush stole the election thanks to freinds in high places who actualy had intellegence and the will to place him as a pupet into the whitheouse.the SNL skits do it best, where dana carvy and will ferrel lampoon the whole thing.
its jsut as well the UNpresident stole the election, I didnt care for gore either. and it created the precedent in the Supreme court where they can now make a a ruleing such that their ruling is not a precendent.
I find the idea of a puppet president fairly amusing. Though the Presidancy has a good deal of limits to its power, its still a job that is going to immensely enlarge the person who is holding the office's ego. People with big ego's are absurdly hard to control even if every person around him was a plant, which isn't likely.
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This insanity brought to you by Somthor:
Bush stole the election thanks to freinds in high places who actualy had intellegence and the will to place him as a pupet into the whitheouse.the SNL skits do it best, where dana carvy and will ferrel lampoon the whole thing.
its jsut as well the UNpresident stole the election, I didnt care for gore either. and it created the precedent in the Supreme court where they can now make a a ruleing such that their ruling is not a precendent.
Do you work at being this stupid or does it come naturally to you?
The election was won by Bush and every independent recount in florida since the elections has reafirmed this. Even people who set out to try to prove Gore won have found that Bush did in fact win.
The supreme court acted with the law. The continued recounts had no basis in law, and if I remember correctly were keeping Bush from completeing his preperations to take office. [ 12-04-2003: Message edited by: Azizza ]
but ok the count was done corectly and gore lost florida by the very slimest of margins, bush still lost the POPULAR vote. IE more people voted for gore across the us than voted for bush.
Gore eventualy conceded when it was obvious a prolonged investigation would only cause more harm than good, the Supreme Court rulling was moot by then.
any way as I SAID SNL did a great job lampooning Bush who in a odd way reminds me of "being there"
No.. I dun know the words to the song 
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Somthor startled the peaceful upland Gorillas by blurting:
yes the recounts done in a state controled by his brother, with a oversight done but a repulican who later was rewarded with a sentors seat.but ok the count was done corectly and gore lost florida by the very slimest of margins, bush still lost the POPULAR vote. IE more people voted for gore across the us than voted for bush.
Gore eventualy conceded when it was obvious a prolonged investigation would only cause more harm than good, the Supreme Court rulling was moot by then.
any way as I SAID SNL did a great job lampooning Bush who in a odd way reminds me of "being there"
How much studying does one have to do every day to come up with such bizarre ways to ignore reality? Elections have never been about the popular vote--it's just a stupid argument by stupid people who don't have the foggiest notion how our system of government works, yet want to whine about something they haven't the wit to grasp.
Jeebus.
Further, the whole recount fiasco revolved around stupid people. Sorry, but if you're too stupid to read the damn ballot, your vote probably shouldn't count anyway. If you don't care enough to pay attention to what you're doing when voting, you've got nothing to whine about when you fuck it up and punch the wrong hole (so to speak).
Dude, have you ever considered basing an opinion on fact and logic rather than emotion and conspiracy theory?
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Gore lost. Live with it.
If Gore got to recount the counties he asked to be recounted... Bush would have won. By a LARGER margin. The votes for him would have outweighed any additional gains made for Gore.
If they instead recounted every county in Florida, which was what Bush stated as the only acceptable manner through which to conduct a recount in the state... GORE would have won. There were more votes in the northern counties for him than either candidate expected, despite those counties being traditionally highly conservative.
Whichever side had managed to get their way in the recount, would have been the one to lose.
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As for the popular vote, it had no applicable value on elections. I am very glad for the electoral college, having studied its place in the American electoral system. It's why candidates still come visit my state, and care what we think on things.
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Trillee was listening to Cher while typing:
~Hail to the cheif he's the .. something something.. something...!~No.. I dun know the words to the song
Hail to the chief or I'm gonna have to kill you. I am the chief so you better watch your step you bastards.
Edit: Damn I wish I could remember what movie that was from... [ 12-04-2003: Message edited by: Sakkra ]
But honestly, do you think he has time to type up those speeches himself? Of course not. He has more important things to do. It was a typo made by some staff member of his.
No biggie. And certainly not newsworthy.
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Nobody really understood why Bloodsage wrote:
Further, the whole recount fiasco revolved around stupid people. Sorry, but if you're too stupid to read the damn ballot, your vote probably shouldn't count anyway. If you don't care enough to pay attention to what you're doing when voting, you've got nothing to whine about when you fuck it up and punch the wrong hole (so to speak).Dude, have you ever considered basing an opinion on fact and logic rather than emotion and conspiracy theory?
I asked you to stop addressing me as Dude please respect my request.
the whole reason the recount was even mentioned is because the election was so close, there has always been counting issues but never before has a election been so closely contested that it made literally every vote count.
besides the seniors who suddenly had new voting card format (and we all know seniors don't respond well to change) there was the hanging chad issue where the correct vote was made but for whatever reason not strongly enough... in those cases the vote was traditionally discarded. There was the missing votes that were never counted at all for some reason.
I understand that despite having the popular vote you can still lose because of the electoral college. Its a archaic device that was implemented way back when because the foundling fathers were alot like you....they decided that the unwashed masses were too dumb to elect their own officials and they needed a check/balance just in case.
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Naimah impressed everyone with:
You know, you're calling him a moron when he was smart enough to become the President of the United States of America. If that makes him a moron then what would that make you?
Probably the same as you. Also you don't need intellect to be voted into office. And the way you said, he was smart enough to become President, sounds as though you think he pulled this off on his own. Now that would be a trick but unfortunately his money bought him all the intellect and support he needed.
Hmm, heres a question. How well do you think Bush would do in a Parlimentary setting with no one to write his speeches or screen the questions? I'd think the man would be laughed out within minutes. [ 12-04-2003: Message edited by: Ace in the Spade ]
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Ace in the Spade said this about your mom:
Probably the same as you. Also you don't need intellect to be voted into office. And the way you said, he was smart enough to become President, sounds as though you think he pulled this off on his own. Now that would be a trick but unfortunately his money bought him all the intellect and support he needed.Hmm, heres a question. How well do you think Bush would do in a Parlimentary setting with no one to write his speeches or screen the questions? I'd think the man would be laughed out within minutes.
The point is, even though he isn't the most prolific of speakers he is probably more intellegent then you or I. Unless you can claim undisputable supiriority you really shouldn't criticize since you are no expert in the fields that he has to deal with.
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Azizza was listening to Cher while typing:
THe unwashed Masses ARE to stupid to elect a president. And it is getting worse every generation.
This argument is pretty funny. It's not like you were born with the dawn of man. There have been a lot of generations before us. If we're shit-stupid, you're a few microns up the scale from shit-stupid.
Additionally, most things about human personalities tend to be wavelike, I think, not linear or exponential (population is an exception). This is often what people mean when they say "the pendulum will be on the other side." As a reaction to anything that's wrong society slowly curves itself back. If generation after generation was getting dumber, then it's pretty much everyone's fault, and something terribly wrong happened. [ 12-04-2003: Message edited by: Kalculus Kid or Mathinator or Waisz ]
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How.... Somthor.... uughhhhhh:
besides the seniors who suddenly had new voting card format (and we all know seniors don't respond well to change) there was the hanging chad issue where the correct vote was made but for whatever reason not strongly enough... in those cases the vote was traditionally discarded. There was the missing votes that were never counted at all for some reason.I understand that despite having the popular vote you can still lose because of the electoral college. Its a archaic device that was implemented way back when because the foundling fathers were alot like you....they decided that the unwashed masses were too dumb to elect their own officials and they needed a check/balance just in case.
The losing side in that election wished to change the traditional rules, to create a greater chance that they would win. If you don't agree with the way the process is run, you change the process BEFORE or AFTER the election is held. You don't go "I'm losing this game, so now you have to bat blindfolded" in the middle of a baseball game, and you don't suddenly decide "pregnant chads" apply in the middle of an election. It is the mark of desperation to do so, and it does unfairly bend the rules.
The law must be equally-applied to all. If you don't like the law, change it. But don't expect it to not apply to you because you don't like it. It's one of the few things Bloodsage says that makes sense.
Also... read up on the purpose of the electoral vs. popular vote sometime, before you go calling it stupid. The point of it is to GIVE a voice to everyone, on an only slightly-balanced weighting scale. A pure popular vote would mean it would be politically-expedient to just SKIP the Midwest, due to the lack of high-population centres there. Those states with low population would have no effective say in the governance of the country, because huge cities with millions of people would be the only effective way to win elections - thus effectively disenfranchising dozens of states without such massive groups of people.
I know, I know - it would be nice if your chosen candidate had won the last election based on his winning of the popular vote. But you'd probably like it a whole lot less if the next election had one candidate winning due to his support in Los Angeles, New York City, Miami, Chicago... and nowhere else. The point of the electoral college is to make sure that candidates must have the support of a good amount of the country in order to win the right to rule it. This does not always apply as it is supposed to, but it sure as hell works better than your alternative - and every political science and sociology professor I've had since 2000 has had to tell people this. REMEMBER - Look at the potential abuses of what you support, before throwing your support behind it.
This is not to say that I support the electoral college in its present incarnation. I'd say it needs some reformation. But you certainly shouldn't just scrap the damn thing. [ 12-04-2003: Message edited by: Drakkenmaw ]
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Naimah's fortune cookie read:
The point is, even though he isn't the most prolific of speakers he is probably more intellegent then you or I. Unless you can claim undisputable supiriority you really shouldn't criticize since you are no expert in the fields that he has to deal with.
You'd claim he is smarter than you? Thats kinda sad. Also the fields he has to deal with? WTF? Do you know how many advisors and experts he has to help him in his job. His biggest responsibilities is usually being friendly with other dignitaries or reading what someone prepared for him.
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Sakkra's fortune cookie read:
Hail to the chief or I'm gonna have to kill you. I am the chief so you better watch your step you bastards.Edit: Damn I wish I could remember what movie that was from...
"There were three assassination attempts made on you! I only had one during my term!" "You can't count the second guy! He only had a starter pistol!"
Shit, I liked that movie...
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Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, Ace in the Spade absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
You'd claim he is smarter than you? Thats kinda sad. Also the fields he has to deal with? WTF? Do you know how many advisors and experts he has to help him in his job. His biggest responsibilities is usually being friendly with other dignitaries or reading what someone prepared for him.
Have you ever managed anything more complicated than your beating off? What's the largest group before which you've ever delivered an address?
You've got too many naive preconceptions to count, but it's clear you've not the faintest idea what it takes to run a large organization. If you think anyone can do it if they've got enough money to buy smart advisors, you're kidding yourself in some pathetic attempt to excuse the fact you're not ever going to accomplish anything similar.
It's fine not to like such people, or to disagree with their policies for rational reasons, but calling them stupid reflects more on you than anything else, proving how little you understand how the world works.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
WTF was that for? One of the few things I say that makes sense?
Bullshit.
Why don't you stop by next time you think I'm clueless, and explain to the world where I'm not making any sense.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
