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Topic: Neon Genesis Evalgion
Aaron (the good one)
posted 07-15-2002 01:55:25 PM
Yes I know, I spelled Evalgion wrong.

How many different series are out there? I keep seeing Episodes (1-6) or (7-12). How many episodes are there in total? Any other videos after the episodes?

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OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 07-15-2002 02:03:36 PM
25. Episodes, 2 movies.

That's it

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Liam
Swims in Erotic Circles
posted 07-15-2002 02:58:40 PM
Someone hook us up.
OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 07-15-2002 03:14:16 PM
Make sure you don't PM me with your streamload account, or else I'd have to send you all the episodes and both movies!
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Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 07-15-2002 04:38:12 PM
the hkdvd movie set also ahs a movie called air on it, its only a few minutes long, it has japanese music in the backorund, and is real life film fotage of jsut normal poeple walking around ain a busy japanese city, with black screens with white charecters (not translated)

i have no idae what it is, it confused me


Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Azeroth™
Want my opinion?
posted 07-15-2002 08:29:10 PM
quote:
This one time, at Rera camp:
the hkdvd movie set also ahs a movie called air on it, its only a few minutes long, it has japanese music in the backorund, and is real life film fotage of jsut normal poeple walking around ain a busy japanese city, with black screens with white charecters (not translated)

i have no idae what it is, it confused me


Its part of the final 2 episodes which were made later after the origional series, I heard they didn't really have any money left for the last two episodes so its really low budget.


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Alaan
posted 07-15-2002 09:43:42 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Azeroth™:
Its part of the final 2 episodes which were made later after the origional series, I heard they didn't really have any money left for the last two episodes so its really low budget.

It's not so much low budget as...weird. Ep. 26 did have a godawful hilarious scene though w/alternate reality.

Liam
Swims in Erotic Circles
posted 07-16-2002 12:18:56 AM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when The Otaku Penguin wrote:
Make sure you don't PM me with your streamload account, or else I'd have to send you all the episodes and both movies!

PM with the info, d00d. (Streamload info and shit)

Oh shi...
what
posted 07-16-2002 08:46:27 PM
Is it sold as a non-import in North America?
Oh shi...
what
posted 07-16-2002 09:56:51 PM
Janus.
I am not a woman
posted 07-16-2002 10:34:49 PM
One has 8 dvds, other has 3 dvds.
Oh shi...
what
posted 07-16-2002 11:05:30 PM
There has to be something else. They couldn't have just split up the episodes so they can put it on 5 more DVD's.
Janus.
I am not a woman
posted 07-16-2002 11:19:59 PM
DVD #1 - 4 episodes
DVD #2-#7 3 episodes each
DVD #8- 4 episodes
Count it up it adds to 26 episodes.
Thats how it works.
Notice it says "perfect" for the 8 box. Pefect meaning the entire thing
8 box = entire series
3 box = 10 epi

Edited to add stuff, then again cuz I added wrong

[ 07-16-2002: Message edited by: Janus ]

Oh shi...
what
posted 07-16-2002 11:34:07 PM
hmm, also seems that it doesn't have 2 episodes

Isn't there something like the beginning and end of Evalgelion that was separate from the TV series?

Oh shi...
what
posted 07-16-2002 11:35:05 PM
The 3 box one says 24 episodes.

The 8 box one says 26 episodes

Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 07-17-2002 05:55:23 PM
i have the 3dvd set, and the 2dvd hk movie set, i watched the 24 eeps then the movies, and from what iv'e heard (im not sure wether or not it's true) the movies are a remake of the last 2 eps, but even if their not, it dont think i missed anythign between wpisode 24 and the movies

Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Janus.
I am not a woman
posted 07-17-2002 06:18:54 PM
There is two, one is a recap of the entire series. And other is something...
Oh shi...
what
posted 07-17-2002 07:35:14 PM
Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 07-18-2002 02:11:06 PM
thats all of it except episode 25 and 26, both of wich the movies cover,thoes are the same dvds i have, great picture, decent subs (clear and everything, few typos here and their and they miss a line or two)

Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
bob12121212
Pancake
posted 09-11-2003 09:02:21 AM
They just came out with EVANGELION 2, but its a videogame. I wonder what effect it will have on the overall plot....
TheOriginalZane
Pancake
posted 09-11-2003 04:54:37 PM
quote:
Mavos had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
They just came out with EVANGELION 2, but its a videogame. I wonder what effect it will have on the overall plot....

It does, but not as much as a fan wants. It's a pretty good game, just get your system moded and your ready to play.

The worst member of EC.
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OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 09-11-2003 05:02:12 PM
quote:
ToastedFritters had this to say about John Romero:
It does, but not as much as a fan wants. It's a pretty good game, just get your system moded and your ready to play.

I have not heard of this game, but my PS2 is modded.

Link?

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Cherveny
Papaya
posted 09-11-2003 05:02:50 PM
There's rumors of a live action Evangelion movie in the works too....
Alaan
posted 09-11-2003 06:40:23 PM
There was also a 64 game I believe. If I remember correctly though, it was basically paralel to the plot.
MorbId
Pancake
posted 09-11-2003 06:44:08 PM
quote:
Alaan had this to say about Optimus Prime:
There was also a 64 game I believe. If I remember correctly though, it was basically paralel to the plot.

Yes. I found a page on it in Japanses a while back. It seemed to be a fighting game based on the initial series.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 09-15-2003 09:29:22 PM
There are 8 Neon Genesis Evangelion DVDs. Then there is Death and Rebirth, which is basically a rehashing of Episodes 25 and 26 from the series. Then after that, End of Evangelion, the movie made afterward. They all can be found on DVD now.


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TheOriginalZane
Pancake
posted 09-15-2003 11:03:41 PM
quote:
Cherveny had this to say about Knight Rider:
There's rumors of a live action Evangelion movie in the works too....

Yes first off to clear some things up, there is a live action comming out.
Second there is a game... it came out about a month ago I want to say. I hope the live action's sweet ass.

The worst member of EC.
Live Journal
Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 09-21-2003 12:59:36 AM
Otaku, why not put it on Khys FtP?
(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
bob12121212
Pancake
posted 10-15-2003 12:14:32 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when OtakuPenguin wrote:
25. Episodes, 2 movies.

That's it


And soon to come EVANGELION 2 --->(I think its a Video Game)

IT really should be an anime though!

The Fatty Man 2
Pancake
posted 10-15-2003 05:34:34 PM
I think that the end of the Evangelion series as well the movies were insanely hard to understand in terms of plot wise and just the overall insanity of their project. I personally could not follow the plot at all. Could someone please explainn it to me in Lamens terms?
MorbId
Pancake
posted 10-15-2003 06:14:42 PM
This is a discussion thread and you should expect it, but I'm about to spoil just about everything in Eva in this post.

quote:
The Fatty Man 2 had this to say about Knight Rider:
I think that the end of the Evangelion series as well the movies were insanely hard to understand in terms of plot wise and just the overall insanity of their project. I personally could not follow the plot at all. Could someone please explainn it to me in Lamens terms?

I'm willing to explain my interpretation of the ending. But, because of the nautre of Eva, there is no concrete explanation. I'm focusing on the end of the series, because that's when most people feel it goes off the deep end.

Episodes 24-26:

Killing Kaoru tears a gaping whole in Shinji's already fragile perception of the world. As NERV crumbles, Shinji gradually comes to terms with himself and the people around him.

The plot in these episodes is split. One path - the internal - follows Shinji's developing understanding of who he is as a human being. The stick figures and philosophical musings are all found here.

The external path focuses on the events in the real world. It is not fully developed, probably because Gainax ran out of money. It seems that NERV was eliminated and most of its staff wiped out, though.

Death and Rebirth, End of Evangelion:

Remember the last couple episodes? Good. Now forget everything about them. Or look at these movies as the expanded version of the external path from episodes 25 and 26. Whichever works for you.

First, background:

Following an angel attack, Asuka is left in a catatonic state.

Shinji is a psychological mess. More so than usual.

Koji is dead for betraying Seele.

NERV has been cut off from their funding and Seele [the myseriues men at tables, and later, the SOUND ONLY units.] because Seele no longer wants to deal with Gendo's independence and insubordination. Based on later comments, it seems as if they want to force Gendo's hand, as well.

Seele had also completed their Eva testing and produced Evas 5-13, the white, red, and black models.

To this end, they convinced the Japanese government that NERV posed a serious threat - that there would be no more Angel attacks, and that Gendo needed to be elminated. The government lauches a large-scale operation against NERV, determined to destroy them, the Evas, and the Eva pilots.

As the army forces destroy NERV, Asuka manages to recover from her catatonic state and pilots her Eva against the military. She's quite successfull until the new Evas are released, and even destroys al of them. However, these Evas have the ability to regenerate - and they tear Asuyka's Eva to pieces once it has lost power. The Lance of Longinus also makes a return appearance here for the first time in the movie.

Misato protects Shinji as he retreats into himself completely. She is eventually killed in the process. But she does suceed in getting Shinji to his Eva's hangar.

Meanwhile, Gendo is bringing all of his plans together. He brings Rei to the underground bunker where 'Lilith' is kept. Rei merges with the body of Lilith, bringing it back to life and warping it into her own form. Gendo acheives his goals and is reunited with his wife - as he is reduced to LHL, primordial soup. Lilith continues, and the rest of NERV sees themselves with loved ones as they are likewise turned to LHL.

In a complicated sequence I cannot completely remember, Shinji, Unit 01, and the Lance of Longinus combine to form a darkly angelic new form as multiple Lances of Longinus suggestively impale the new Evas, 5-13. Lilith rises to meet them and presents Shinji with a choice: exist alone, with human weakness and frailty, or return humanity to its beginnings. In doing so, all humans will become one with each other and God.

Shinji doesn't want to make the choice at all, but his insecurities drive him to choose the latter. Freudian symbolisms abound as the human/organism to LHL process is repeated across the globe, and Shinji is forced to deal with the enromity of his decision.

And he tries to take it back. Lilith/Rei explains that the choice is no longer his to make; those who wish to can restore their own bodies and individuality at the expense of the communal harmony of the mass of LHL.

This is the course that Shinji seems to take. Along with himself, he brings a female companion who has the traits of Rei, Misato, and Asuka (Rei's bandages, Misato's eye color, Asuka's body). At the same time, the Lilith body falls apart, its purpose complete.

As the film ends, Shinji and the composite female are left on that island, a definite parallel to Eden.

If you have the DVDs, or have access to them, the I highly recommend the translators' commentary. It clarifies some of the more obscure references, such as the Tree of Life that appears on the floor of Gendo's office and around the ascended Unit 01. Some of the comments are quite amusing, as well.

[ 10-15-2003: Message edited by: Captain MorbId ]

Cherveny
Papaya
posted 10-15-2003 11:07:48 PM
quote:
Captain MorbId had this to say about pies:
This is a discussion thread and you should expect it, but I'm about to spoil just about everything in Eva in this post.

I'm willing to explain my interpretation of the ending. {SNIP}.


Nice Job Morbid. Haven't seen a better explanation of the plot anywhere.

One thing that still confuses me still is the very last scene, the choking scene....

OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 10-16-2003 12:12:17 AM
quote:
Captain MorbId had this to say about pies:
This is a discussion thread and you should expect it, but I'm about to spoil just about everything in Eva in this post.

I'm willing to explain my interpretation of the ending. But, because of the nautre of Eva, there is no concrete explanation. I'm focusing on the end of the series, because that's when most people feel it goes off the deep end.

[snip]

Misato protects Shinji as he retreats into himself completely. She is eventually killed in the process. But she does suceed in getting Shinji to his Eva's hangar.


I've always hated Shinji, but GOD DAMNIT, I hated him with such a burning passion after that.

He is my absolute LEAST favourite Anime Character.

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bob12121212
Pancake
posted 10-16-2003 08:46:46 AM
Yeah, shinji is REALLY ANNOYING! I can't stand his whining....
MorbId
Pancake
posted 10-16-2003 06:09:29 PM
Thanks, Cherveny. And I agree; that choking scene is probably the most confusing part of a confusing movie. Is Shinji angry because all three 'abandoned' him? Is he refusing to take responsibility for what he's done and simply lashing out..?

Hm. I need to get my own copy and watch it a few more times.

The composite Rei/Asuka/Misato's "How pathetic" comment at that part was intentionally vague even in Japanese, according to the DVD comentary. The way the sentence is constructed, it's really not clear whether she's referring to herself or Shinji.

Everyone hates Shinji for something by the time EoE is over. The DVD commentary also mentions that it was an extremely difficult role for the American voice actor who played Shinji; he hated Shinji as much as anyone, and still had to portray the character as sympathetically as possible. Otherwise, the acting simply wouldn't have been believable.

[ 10-16-2003: Message edited by: Captain MorbId ]

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