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Topic: *blink* I never thought I'd say this...
Aury
My hair is a deadly weapon
posted 08-31-2003 01:02:17 PM
But these two guys actually share my opinion on gay marriage.

meep


except I have no desire to adopt kids. I despise children.

[ 08-31-2003: Message edited by: Aury ]

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 08-31-2003 01:16:17 PM
So what?
~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Aury
My hair is a deadly weapon
posted 08-31-2003 01:16:53 PM
quote:
Tarquinn had this to say about Punky Brewster:
So what?

I just thought it was an amusing column to read is all.

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 08-31-2003 01:17:38 PM
That was an interesting read. I hope they win the right to get married.
That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



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Emily
Why's everybody always hittin on me?
posted 08-31-2003 01:24:45 PM
quote:
Karnaj was listening to Cher while typing:
That was an interesting read. I hope they win the right to get married.


Me, too.

I'm happy for them and everything. One of my friend's dad is gay -- so he lives with his "two dads" as he playfully calls it. They've been trying to get married for a few years now. I think that's really great. It was rough on my friend growing up dealing with all the kids teasing him about his dad being gay and all, but fortunately maturity and understanding got the best of most people, and most just learned to respect and accept it, even if they didn't approve of it.

I just have one question -- anti-sodomy laws? wtf is that, anyways? I didn't know sodomy was a crime.

[ 08-31-2003: Message edited by: Emily ]

Should've done something, but I've done it enough
By the way your hands were shaking
Rather waste some time with you

Should've said something, but I've said it enough
By the way my words were faded
Rather waste some time with you...

Mod
Pancake
posted 08-31-2003 01:28:34 PM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Emily!
Me, too.

I'm happy for them and everything. One of my friend's dad is gay -- so he lives with his "two dads" as he playfully calls it. They've been trying to get married for a few years now. I think that's really great. It was rough on my friend growing up dealing with all the kids teasing him about his dad being gay and all, but fortunately maturity and understanding got the best of most people, and most just learned to respect and accept it, even if they didn't approve of it.

I just have one question -- anti-sodomy laws? wtf is that, anyways? I didn't know sodomy was a crime.


Various sexual practices are illegal in some U.S. states, the federal supreme court recently struck Texas' version of those down iirc.

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Emily
Why's everybody always hittin on me?
posted 08-31-2003 01:31:58 PM
quote:
Shazorx / Modrakien had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Various sexual practices are illegal in some U.S. states, the federal supreme court recently struck Texas' version of those down iirc.

wtf are they gonna do? Come busting down your house if they find you and your lover are having butt-sex? Give me a break! What people do behind closed doors should be their own damn business!

Should've done something, but I've done it enough
By the way your hands were shaking
Rather waste some time with you

Should've said something, but I've said it enough
By the way my words were faded
Rather waste some time with you...

BetaTested
Not gay, but loves the cock!
posted 08-31-2003 02:12:09 PM
Anit-Sodomy laws are those stupid things that just make bible thumpers feel better. It's like how it's illegal to stop on the crosswalk lines, but almost everyone stops IN the cross walks. Or the law in good ole AZ that states it is illegal to operate a vehical in reverse. Or the law in AZ that states it is illegal to spit on the sidewalk, enforceable with a $500 fine.

Stupid shit that might have had a slight reason a hundred years ago that no one practially knows exists anymore.

On a side note, I hope that they can get married. I think it's still fucked up that people can't do what they want to do when it's not going to hurt someone else or themselves. Our country was founded on the freedom of beliefs and yet we still opress beliefs different than what's mainstream.


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Snugglits
I LIKE TO ABUSE THE ALERT MOD BUTTON AND I ENJOY THE FLAVOR OF SWEET SWEET COCK.
posted 08-31-2003 02:15:39 PM
Oh, come on, give us conservatives a little slack. If we weren't here to restrain you, you'd turn this into some god-forsaken socialist ultra-left wing country where everbody shares everything and holds hands.

*shivers*

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Nicole
The hip-hop-happiest bunny in all of marshmallow woods
posted 08-31-2003 02:16:02 PM
quote:
Emily painfully thought these words up:
wtf are they gonna do? Come busting down your house if they find you and your lover are having butt-sex? Give me a break! What people do behind closed doors should be their own damn business!

Exactly.

Though the thought of policemen dragging two naked guys into the station while they scream "I'LL STICK MY COCK WHEREVER I DAMN WELL PLEASE!!" is just too silly to ignore.



I just spent
my last cent
purchasing this poverty.

Skaw
posted 08-31-2003 02:17:59 PM
quote:
This one time, at BetaTested camp:
Or the law in AZ that states it is illegal to spit on the sidewalk, enforceable with a $500 fine.

Thats a good law. I dont want to walk in someones saliva just cause they're fucking disgusting.

Bummey the Fool
Prefers to play with men
posted 08-31-2003 02:55:16 PM
If you can find someone you love and want to be with forever, why should it matter if they're the same sex as you? Some people you just can't reach.
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 08-31-2003 02:58:39 PM
quote:
Karnaj stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
That was an interesting read. I hope they win the right to get married.

Me, too. It would set legal precedent. I want to marry Mikasi someday.

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
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Pancake
posted 08-31-2003 02:59:08 PM
quote:
Emily had this to say about John Romero:
wtf are they gonna do? Come busting down your house if they find you and your lover are having butt-sex? Give me a break! What people do behind closed doors should be their own damn business!

Actually happened, a year or so ago, that's how the law in texas got struck down.

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Mr. Crabs
Pancake
posted 08-31-2003 03:27:27 PM
quote:
Bummey the Fool had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
If you can find someone you love and want to be with forever, why should it matter if they're the same sex as you? Some people you just can't reach.

This argument, in my opinion at least, destroys any possible anti-gay argument. I mean, if two people love each other and happen to be the same sex, how is it anyone else's business to question them? The practice of consentual homosexuality does not hurt anyone. There should never anything wrong with two people loving each other.

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Bricktop
Old and Gay
posted 08-31-2003 09:09:29 PM
quote:
Emily probably says this to all the girls:
wtf are they gonna do? Come busting down your house if they find you and your lover are having butt-sex? Give me a break! What people do behind closed doors should be their own damn business!

Wait until you find out oral sex is illegal in some states.

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Ares
posted 08-31-2003 09:42:35 PM
Come to Canada. ^.^ Where gay marriages are allowed. I hope that they can marry too. It's not far to not be able to make such a traditional commitment to the one you love just because some areas of society doesn't agree with it
Skaw
posted 08-31-2003 09:46:11 PM
quote:
Ares's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
traditional

It's also traditional that marriage be religious, sacred, and between a man and a woman.

But hey, that hasn't stopped people before.

[ 08-31-2003: Message edited by: Skaw ]

Ares
posted 08-31-2003 09:55:58 PM
quote:
Skaw attempted to be funny by writing:
It's also traditional that marriage be religious, sacred, and between a man and a woman.

But hey, that hasn't stopped people before.


I shall refrain from mkaing comments about religion.

Nwist, Who?
Nwist
posted 08-31-2003 10:30:53 PM
quote:
Ares's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
I shall refrain from mkaing comments about religion.


What Skaw said isn't an oppinion...

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 08-31-2003 11:49:47 PM
I hope they win, but it's not going to be easy.

Question: If a man and woman get married in Canada, is the marrage considered valid in the US? If yes, then it might be interesting if someone had a same-sex marrage in Canada, then came to the US and simply claimed the rights. When denied, they could then sue for their rights. Same basic idea, but it has additional weight behind it because of Canada's involvement.

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Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 09-01-2003 12:12:12 AM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Palador ChibiDragon wrote:
I hope they win, but it's not going to be easy.

Question: If a man and woman get married in Canada, is the marrage considered valid in the US? If yes, then it might be interesting if someone had a same-sex marrage in Canada, then came to the US and simply claimed the rights. When denied, they could then sue for their rights. Same basic idea, but it has additional weight behind it because of Canada's involvement.


No, currently it's not considered valid in the states, thank god.

They simply want to get married for the tax breaks, they even said so in the article. If it was at all about love, it'd be enough for them to have it done in Canada and call it good.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Skaw
posted 09-01-2003 12:14:57 AM
quote:
Verily, Reynar doth proclaim:
No, currently it's not considered valid in the states, thank god.

They simply want to get married for the tax breaks, they even said so in the article. If it was at all about love, it'd be enough for them to have it done in Canada and call it good.


Why dont they just marry a pair of lesbians and all 4 live together? Less hassle, more taxbreaks.

Uhoh. I sense Fox stealing this plan and turning it into a reality TV series.

[ 09-01-2003: Message edited by: Skaw ]

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 09-01-2003 12:25:46 AM
quote:
The propaganda machine of Reynar's junta released this statement:
No, currently it's not considered valid in the states, thank god.

They simply want to get married for the tax breaks, they even said so in the article. If it was at all about love, it'd be enough for them to have it done in Canada and call it good.


Sooo...why don't a man and woman do the same thing, if it's all about love? I mean, if it's about love, then a man and woman shouldn't care about tax breaks, either. When I ask my girlfriend to marry me, I'll make sure we tie the knot in Canada. Because it's all about the love, you see.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Aury
My hair is a deadly weapon
posted 09-01-2003 12:36:44 AM
quote:
A sleep deprived Karnaj stammered:
Sooo...why don't a man and woman do the same thing, if it's all about love? I mean, if it's about love, then a man and woman shouldn't care about tax breaks, either. When I ask my girlfriend to marry me, I'll make sure we tie the knot in Canada. Because it's all about the love, you see.

They've already had the ceremony for love.

They want the governmental benefits to being married as well.

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 09-01-2003 12:42:22 AM
quote:
How.... Reynar.... uughhhhhh:
They simply want to get married for the tax breaks, they even said so in the article.

It's not just tax breaks. It's also the rights that normally go to a married couple, such as being on each other's insurance, and being the one to make decisions if the other is ever gravely injured or on life support.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Mr. Parcelan
posted 09-01-2003 01:34:40 AM
Being gay is just too trendy.
Suddar
posted 09-01-2003 02:17:07 AM
Goddamn fags don't deserve no tax breaks, y'hear?
Bricktop
Old and Gay
posted 09-01-2003 02:19:32 AM
fucks Suddar in the ass
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Suddar
posted 09-01-2003 02:20:23 AM
snoota you know I love you but I need my tax breaks ;o
Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 09-01-2003 02:43:12 AM
I found it funny that some gays are criticizing this because it would make them absorb heterosexual ideals. Us heteros are the cause of all the problems in America
Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
Varagon
Pancake
posted 09-01-2003 03:08:20 AM
I really have not had one decent argument made to me against gay marriage. The only thing people can seem to come up with is "tradition" and "holy matrimony".

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Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 09-01-2003 10:12:12 AM
I found somethin really interesting against gay maraige that isn't based on religion. Let me go find it.
http://gideonsblog.blogspot.com/2003_07_01_gideonsblog_archive.html
He has some very intresting points.
Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 09-01-2003 10:32:08 AM
quote:
The Body Snatchers version of Lenlalron Flameblaster wrote this:
I found somethin really interesting against gay maraige that isn't based on religion. Let me go find it.
http://gideonsblog.blogspot.com/2003_07_01_gideonsblog_archive.html
He has some very intresting points.

Let's see.

A bunch of glittering generalities and appeals to tradition.

Some authoritarian bullshit about indoctrinating young people.

An unrelated rant about feminism.

And, of course, the key argument: "OHNOSE MARRIAGE WIL B CHAnGED 4EVER!!!1" As if that were a bad thing. Oh and, the ol' "THE GAYS GO AGAINST NATURE#$^@#$" bullshit.

So, we have arguments that A) inconsequential, B) fallacious, or C) downright idiotic. Nope, not one convincing argument why gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry each other.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



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