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Topic: Like Enemy Territory? Like Star Wars?
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 08-17-2003 01:19:24 PM
In the latest issue of PC Gamer :

quote:
Multiplay looks to be just as sweet as it was in the previous game. In addition to the stellar one-on-one lightsaber duels, a new Siege mode is on the way, with each player taking a different role (Jedi, demolitions expert, grenadier, and so on) to complete an objective. Thus, not everyone can play as Jedi, because even half a dozen lightsabers hacking away at a secured door won't open it without the aid of a demo man.
Sean
posted 08-17-2003 01:20:11 PM
Okay.

But what is this about?

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Canadian Mountee
Rumble Pak+FMV Sequence=FUN!
posted 08-17-2003 01:20:46 PM
Jedi Knight 3
The World is Yours
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 08-17-2003 01:21:51 PM
Excellent!
Canadian Mountee
Rumble Pak+FMV Sequence=FUN!
posted 08-17-2003 01:22:44 PM
Although the Jedi should get through the door
The World is Yours
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 08-17-2003 01:23:44 PM
quote:
Sean had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Okay.

But what is this about?


Oops. Knew I left something out.

That's about Jedi Academy.
http://www.lucasarts.com/products/jediacademy/

AKA : Jedi Knight 3. You don't play as Katarn this time, you're a new jedi student (Katarn ends up as a teacher). It's almost like Jedi RPG - you pick race, lightsaber type (Single, dual, staff like Darth Maul had), and combat style. You get to take optional missions but skip force powers you'd get, junk like that.

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 08-17-2003 01:30:51 PM
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 08-17-2003 01:53:03 PM
quote:
Khyron impressed everyone with:
[QB]Tusken Raider jedi??

Uh, no.

Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 08-17-2003 01:59:22 PM
as long as i can snipe, i'll be happy.
On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Bummey the Fool
Prefers to play with men
posted 08-17-2003 02:01:09 PM
Bah, I prolly wouldn't be able to run it. I need a new puter
Mod
Pancake
posted 08-17-2003 02:06:45 PM
Jedi dynamite planted.......protect the old city force wall.....they have damaged the bantha.....protect the bacta depot...
Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 08-17-2003 02:07:51 PM
Five minutes left! UTINNI!
Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Ruvie's Alt
Haven't you always wanted a monkey?
posted 08-17-2003 02:08:41 PM
quote:
Khyron had this to say about John Romero:
you pick race

You wouldn't happen to know if you can be a Wookiee, would you?

OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 08-17-2003 02:11:32 PM
Same engine as JK2?...
..:: This Is The Sound Of Settling ::..
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 08-17-2003 02:13:25 PM
quote:
Ruv had this to say about Punky Brewster:
You wouldn't happen to know if you can be a Wookiee, would you?

Not sure, but there is a Wookiee Model, so manybe.

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 08-17-2003 02:19:59 PM
quote:
OtakuPenguin had this to say about Tron:
Same engine as JK2?...

Quake 3 engine is rather flexible

Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 08-17-2003 02:20:06 PM
quote:
OtakuPenguin wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Same engine as JK2?...

They are using the Quake 3 engine like JK2 I believe, but for mapping/terrain they are bringing over the Soldier of Fortune 2 map/terrain engine.

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Talonus
Loner
posted 08-17-2003 02:54:45 PM
Welp, I've had the leaked beta for awhile now. Yes I know its warez, but I do plan to buy the game. All its missing are a couple textures, the run animation for a certain monster, hopefully some bug fixes to fix some crashing, and some possible balance changes. You can complete the SP campaign totally and play MP fine though.

The game's really more of a stand-alone expansion to JK2 than a new game. The graphics haven't improved any since JK2, the new lighstabers aren't really special when taking into account various JK2 mods, and the SP campaign is relatively weak. Lightsaber fluidity and force powers are better tuned though, and you only have to use something other than your lightsaber in one mission. Overall, the game feels like its relying on the jedi gimmick and didn't take advantage of its strong points. Its and ok game, but nothing great. If HL2 makes it out on time it'll crush Jedi Academy.

Oh and to answer some questions. Mortius, you can be a tusken jedi in multiplayer, sorry. Ruv in single player you can be a human male/female, a Kel Dor male, a Rodian male, a Twi'Lek female, or a Zabrak female. It somewhat disturbed me that you have the same name despite what race/sex you play though. In MP you can choose any of the models.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 08-17-2003 03:00:28 PM
quote:
Talonus had this to say:
Mortius, you can be a tusken jedi in multiplayer, sorry.

I was talking about SP. I thought that was obvious.

Talonus
Loner
posted 08-17-2003 03:23:30 PM
quote:
Mortious impressed everyone with:
I was talking about SP. I thought that was obvious.

Eh not really. There is something concerning race in the SP game that would make a SW fanboy cringe though. Won't say what to avoid huge spoilers and such.

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 08-17-2003 03:24:35 PM
quote:
Talonus's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
Eh not really. There is something concerning race in the SP game that would make a SW fanboy cringe though. Won't say what to avoid huge spoilers and such.

C'mon, that's what the spoiler tag is there for! If they wanna spoil it, let 'em spoil it for themselves by highlighting the tag!

[ 08-17-2003: Message edited by: Khyron ]

Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 08-17-2003 04:52:00 PM
You have the leaked beta?

Dont you know Fal is gone?

(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
sigeA ihpleD
.raewrednu ruoy tuoba gnihtynA .gnihtyna em ksA .elcaro ehT .thgir s'tahT .ihpleD
posted 08-17-2003 05:14:31 PM
"Omg, saber lamer!"

"Loolzersaber!"

.tniop doog ylriaf a edam ihpleD :hteD
.tniop yreve no tcerroc %001 si ihpleD :suiraD
Talonus
Loner
posted 08-17-2003 05:48:01 PM
quote:
Khyron had this to say about John Romero:
C'mon, that's what the spoiler tag is there for! If they wanna spoil it, let 'em spoil it for themselves by highlighting the tag!

I won't spoil it because it involves the ending. Hah, thought I spoiled it didn't ya?

ECP, its not exactly hard to find if you want it. Just search on Emule for it. *shrugs*

Bricktop
Old and Gay
posted 08-17-2003 06:50:17 PM
quote:
There was much rejoicing when Talonus said this:
I won't spoil it because it involves the ending.

What does that have to do with using the spoiler tags?

Just say it already. That's what the spoiler tags are for.

A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent.
Talonus
Loner
posted 08-17-2003 08:01:24 PM
Oh bah. I was just being lazy. Anyways...

Lemme count the problems. Jan's dissapeared totally, no mention of her at all. A random person now has the ability to build and operate a perfectly working lightsaber with no Jedi training at all. You can now suck the Force out of random locations in the galaxy with a random ancient artifact, and only one of these ancient artifacts exist. A Jedi can use any of the powers of the dark side and yet never fall to the dark side. A Jedi can use only the powers of the light side and yet still be considered a Dark Jedi. A new Jedi trainee can master his powers and become a highly respected Jedi in a matter of couple weeks. The same kid can beat the crap out of Kyle Kartan without breaking a sweat. The Empire Remnant seemingly has no problem with a random dark Jedi breaking into their ship, killing the the commander, and taking over. Think I got em all.

sigeA ihpleD
.raewrednu ruoy tuoba gnihtynA .gnihtyna em ksA .elcaro ehT .thgir s'tahT .ihpleD
posted 08-17-2003 08:15:52 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Talonus:
I won't spoil it because it involves the ending. Hah, thought I spoiled it didn't ya?

ECP, its not exactly hard to find if you want it. Just search on Emule for it. *shrugs*


Emule?

.tniop doog ylriaf a edam ihpleD :hteD
.tniop yreve no tcerroc %001 si ihpleD :suiraD
Talonus
Loner
posted 08-17-2003 08:24:54 PM
quote:
From the book of sigeA ihpleD, chapter 3, verse 16:
Emule?

I shouldn't have to say google is your friend. Anyways, eMule is another filesharing program. I prefer it over BT, Kazaa, etc for a couple reasons. I'd recommend trying it out.

Bricktop
Old and Gay
posted 08-17-2003 08:31:01 PM
quote:
Talonus's fortune cookie read:
Oh bah. I was just being lazy. Anyways...

Lemme count the problems. Jan's dissapeared totally, no mention of her at all. A random person now has the ability to build and operate a perfectly working lightsaber with no Jedi training at all. You can now suck the Force out of random locations in the galaxy with a random ancient artifact, and only one of these ancient artifacts exist. A Jedi can use any of the powers of the dark side and yet never fall to the dark side. A Jedi can use only the powers of the light side and yet still be considered a Dark Jedi. A new Jedi trainee can master his powers and become a highly respected Jedi in a matter of couple weeks. The same kid can beat the crap out of Kyle Kartan without breaking a sweat. The Empire Remnant seemingly has no problem with a random dark Jedi breaking into their ship, killing the the commander, and taking over. Think I got em all.


Wait, what does any of that have to do with a problem about a certain race that has to do with the end of the game?

A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent.
Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 08-17-2003 08:54:27 PM
There was a Tusken Raider Jedi in the EU...


Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Talonus
Loner
posted 08-17-2003 10:12:09 PM
quote:
Cool Hand Luke's fortune cookie read:
Wait, what does any of that have to do with a problem about a certain race that has to do with the end of the game?

Could have sworn that the Empire wasn't exactly so accepting of non-human races and yet they seem to have no problem with you coming aboard and taking over.

Bricktop
Old and Gay
posted 08-17-2003 10:14:21 PM
quote:
Talonus probably says this to all the girls:
Could have sworn that the Empire wasn't exactly so accepting of non-human races and yet they seem to have no problem with you coming aboard and taking over.

Didn't mean an Alien couldn't become a member of the Empire. It just meant they had to work harder. Look at Thrawn!

A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent.
Talonus
Loner
posted 08-17-2003 10:22:26 PM
quote:
Cool Hand Luke thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Didn't mean an Alien couldn't become a member of the Empire. It just meant they had to work harder. Look at Thrawn!

Thrawn's an exception, just cause he's Thrawn.

You don't actually work to do it. You kind of just take over. In fact, the body of the old commanding officer on the ship is about 5ft behind you in the cinematic. Doesn't seem like the Empire folks mind because there's two lesser officers just standing behind you no problem. They just accpet it and off you go.

Then again, at this point you've destroyed a major cult threatening to unleash an ancient Sith lord upon the galaxy, killed most every Jedi from the Jedi Academy, beat down Kyle Katarn, and have a staff created by an ancient Sith lord that contains the Force within every major location in the SW universe that Raven could think of. Maybe they thought it'd be a bad idea to fuck with you.

Bricktop
Old and Gay
posted 08-17-2003 10:23:56 PM
Is there two storylines if you go light or dark? Sounds almost like it. That was the coolest thing about Knights of the Old Republic.
A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent.
Talonus
Loner
posted 08-17-2003 10:35:29 PM
quote:
Cool Hand Luke got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Is there two storylines if you go light or dark? Sounds almost like it. That was the coolest thing about Knights of the Old Republic.

You can, but its not done as well as in KotOR. Basically at one point very late in the story you make a choice of whether or not to kill someone. Don't kill them and you finish out the last three (or two, I forget) missions as light. Kill them and you finish out the last three missions as dark. There's some differences in those missions, but not a whole lot. Very dissapointing way of handling it IMHO.

In fact, the point at which I felt the game had the most potential to really have a good storyline was at the dark side's ending. Was dissapointed it ended there. Hopefully JK3 (JK:A isn't JK3) will pick up here and not from the light side's ending, though its not bloody likely.

Anyways, it doesn't matter what force powers you've taken either. You can have all dark side powers and go light. You can have all light side powers and go dark. You can mix and match powers if you so choose. All that matters in the end is one swing of the saber. This could change for the actual release, but I really doubt it will.

Anklebiter
Pancake
posted 08-17-2003 10:49:14 PM
What was Thrawn?
Are you talking about the Grand Admiral Thrawn?

[ 08-17-2003: Message edited by: Anklebiter ]

EVE Online:
Asha Vahishta, Minmatar Pilot.
Bricktop
Old and Gay
posted 08-17-2003 10:50:30 PM
A Chriss(or.. whatever) Grand Admiral. The only Alien to rise to a rank that high under Palpatine.
A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent.
Anklebiter
Pancake
posted 08-17-2003 10:54:00 PM
quote:
Cool Hand Luke had this to say about (_|_):
A Chriss(or.. whatever) Grand Admiral. The only Alien to rise to a rank that high under Palpatine.

I always thought he was human.. I must re-read some books.

EVE Online:
Asha Vahishta, Minmatar Pilot.
Addy
posted 08-17-2003 10:58:46 PM
This game will last a couple of weeks, max, like JK2.

Mostly because I suck at these games. ;(

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