I can't afford to go any higher right now and I find myself forced to upgrade.
Given these two choices which would you go with? [ 08-13-2003: Message edited by: Azizza ]
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Azizza said this about your mom:
Friday I will either get:
Geforce FX 5600 With 256MB
Or:
Radeon 9600 Pro with 128MB DDRI can't afford to go any higher right now and I find myself forced to upgrade.
Given these two choices which would you go with?
I was told to go with the Radeon 9500 Pro, Az. Supposed to be better than those two and quieter.
I am not as worried about sound as I am compatability and stability. I have often had issues with ATI in the past. Supposedly they have gotten better but I want to be 110% sure.
c'mon, you can scrounge a spare little bit of change from the couch, the car, and the sidewalk.
otherwise, if you're forced to choose one of those two, then go with the 9600.
No, Really. Bite me.
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There was much rejoicing when Burger said this:
Neither.
http://www.compusa.com/buildyourown/product_info.asp?product_code=302165&pfp=BUILDYOU ROWNc'mon, you can scrounge a spare little bit of change from the couch, the car, and the sidewalk.
otherwise, if you're forced to choose one of those two, then go with the 9600.
The 9500 Pro is better than the 9600 Pro??? I am now confused.
ANd yes an extra 20 bucks is nothing. Although the nVidia card is considerably cheaper than both.
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Check out the big brain on Azizza!
Friday I will either get:
Geforce FX 5600 With 256MB
Or:
Radeon 9600 Pro with 128MB DDRI can't afford to go any higher right now and I find myself forced to upgrade.
Given these two choices which would you go with?
The FX5200 and FX5600 are crap from what I hear, they don't or just barely beat out 9600 and 9800. So my vote would have to be ATI on this one.
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Azizza got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
The 9500 Pro is better than the 9600 Pro??? I am now confused.ANd yes an extra 20 bucks is nothing. Although the nVidia card is considerably cheaper than both.
the 9500 is a 9700 pro that's been crippled severely. The 9600pro is a 0.09 micron chip that was designed from the ground up for low heat and power. It's a mobile chip that they also sell in a desktop flavour. The 9500pro behaves like a desktop chip, the 9600pro almost does, but you can tell taht it's still not up to snuff.
also, the 9500 overclocks like a motherfucker.
No, Really. Bite me.
If the PNY Card even comes close to the performance of the ATI boards mentioned above then I will probably stay with them.
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From the book of [PPZ]Kamikaze Gerbil, chapter 3, verse 16:
The FX5200 and FX5600 are crap from what I hear, they don't or just barely beat out 9600 and 9800. So my vote would have to be ATI on this one.
ummm, nope. the 5200 performs about the same as an 8500/9000/9100/9200, and the 5600 splits the difference between the 8500 and the 9500.
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This one time, at Azizza camp:
OK I hear you Burger. So now it is between the PNY card and the one you posted. If the ATI card worth 40 bucks more for someone who ernjoys games a lot but is not a Hardcore gamer like some others here.
well, what kind of games/settings do you use?
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Azizza said this about your mom:
Right now the most intensive game I have is Unreal II.
I play it in 1280x1024x32 with pretty much everything maxed. Framerates are playable but could be better.
9500.
you'll thank yourself later.
No, Really. Bite me.
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Burger had this to say about Captain Planet:
the 9500 is a 9700 pro that's been crippled severely.
I dunno what your talking about, but the 9500 Pro is the worse of the two cards. The 9500 Non-Pro, are 50% of the time a 9700 Pro, with 4 of the pipelines disabled via software, and if they are, 70-80% of the time those pipelines are unlockable to give you basically a Radeon 9700 Pro. The 9500 Pro is basically a 9700 with reduced clock speeds.
Also, Az. Go for the 9500, it is actually better than the 9600.
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Doomie obviously shouldn't have said:
Also, Az. Go for the 9500, it is actually better than the 9600.
That's what Burger has been saying... So long as you mean pro.
Remote Wonder 2 looks pretty spiffy too.
How many more threads are we going to make on this subject?
the 9500pro is king.
No, Really. Bite me.
Emphasis so you don't think I'm comparing a pro card to a...non...pro card.
Same price, Damn near identical performance.
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Suddar had this to say about Pirotess:
So wait, the 9500 Pro beats out the 9600 Pro?Emphasis so you don't think I'm comparing a pro card to a...non...pro card.
yuppers
the 9600pro is a mobile card that they sell a desktop version of (because it's the best damn mobile card on the market) but the 9500pro is a desktop board through and through. That means that they could afford it to run hotter, suck more juice, and do anything necessary to crunsh out frames.
No, Really. Bite me.
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Burger spewed forth this undeniable truth:
yuppersthe 9600pro is a mobile card that they sell a desktop version of (because it's the best damn mobile card on the market) but the 9500pro is a desktop board through and through. That means that they could afford it to run hotter, suck more juice, and do anything necessary to crunsh out frames.
That's the stupidest fucking marketing I've ever heard of.
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Random Insanity Generator had this to say about Tron:
The 9500Pro has been overclocking like all hell and there's supposed to be a BIOS patch for it that will basically make it into the 9800Pro...
And folks we have a winner. 
See if you can pick up a first revision model of a 9500 Pro from somewhere like e-bay. It should soft-mod to a 9800 Pro pretty easily.
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Mortious stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Aye, a so-called "soft-mod", but BEWARE.. it's only reported to work on older models of the card.See if you can pick up a first revision model of a 9500 Pro from somewhere like e-bay. It should soft-mod to a 9800 Pro pretty easily.
Yeah I just read the writeup on that. Bleh. Back to the drawing board. I have to get the card tomorrow. I can't go without my PC over the weekend. I have work to do.
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Random Insanity Generator had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
The 9500Pro has been overclocking like all hell and there's supposed to be a BIOS patch for it that will basically make it into the 9800Pro...
not quite... the 9500pro only has a 128 bit memory interface compared to the 9800/9700 pro's 256bit wide memory interface. At the same clock, it'll only get half the bandwidth.
No, Really. Bite me.
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Mortious stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Aye, a so-called "soft-mod", but BEWARE.. it's only reported to work on older models of the card.See if you can pick up a first revision model of a 9500 Pro from somewhere like e-bay. It should soft-mod to a 9800 Pro pretty easily.
And the way you can tell that it's a first gen is that all the memory chips are in a line, as opposed to being spread out around the core.
No, Really. Bite me.
LOOK AT THIS: http://www.knowledgemicro.com/detail.php?p=PC-R9700&c=fr
(here's their page at resellerratings, not amazing, but definatly a reputable company) http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1551.html
That's a 9700 non-pro that'll beat the fuck out of any of the other cards discussed here, and if you can wait for shipping, then that's definatly a contender!
No, Really. Bite me.
According the their track record they're awful, and according to "The Better Business Bureau of Silicon Valley" they haven't responded to one single complaint. People have had to go through their credit card companies/banks to force refunds.
Way to give good advice.
