Looks like they are playing very conservative with thier naming convention. Only rating it as a 3100+.
I'm a little amused that they spun an entire article around it.
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How.... Naimah.... uughhhhhh:
The Competition. Looks like my next processor will most definantly be a Pentium. Kinda sad really, I was a real fan of the nForce motherboards.
I see no mention of 64bit in there however. Did I miss it?
Intel is dragging thier heels in this regards. And while I see no real use for 64bit compatability for PCs in the next year, many people will be buying in preperation for upcoming software.
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x--NaimahO-('-'Q) :
18446744073709551616. That is 64bit. Why the hell would I want 64bit to run my game.
Because 64 bit processors dramatically outperform 32 bit 
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Bill had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Because 64 bit processors dramatically outperform 32 bit
Not in 32-bit applications unless, such as in the case of Athlon64, the processor is dramatically better architecturally.
What I'm saying is that Athlon64 isn't just 64-bit. It has cache improvements, different die size, etc.
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Naimah had this to say about (_|_):
There still hasn't been a bench on a real chipset to prove that. When the Opteron AGP boards come out and they do true high end benches then I'll believe they are that much better.
Oh, right, the test where they used very similar boards, all with onboard video wasn't a reliable test. 
Naimah, they were using identical hardware. All of the tests should shift up the same amount from the same agp video card down the road.
Meanwhile, Intel has a 32bit architecture that can SMP inside of one die, and is scaleable to 4ghz easy, not to mention requireing less raw material, lower production cost...
This isn't 8bit vs 16bit systems all over gain, it's not that big of a distinction. 64 bit performance will blow no one away. Mac has had it for almost 4 years now, and have complete control over their software market and the compiling setup, and they still can't match performance with a P4. What makes you think AMD, which has historically had problems getting ANY software maker to optimize code for their system (when was the last time you saw a 3D NOW! game?) is going to be able to out perform Intel, who systematically has software firms sucking them of?
In this cornahhhh, we have Maradon, Champion of AMD 64 bit processors!
In thiiis cornah, we have Blindy, managed by Naimah. The Champion of Intel!
Our referee for the night will be Azizza, the macintosh Fanboy!
FIGHT!
Sorry, I had to do it. Luv u all. [ 06-18-2003: Message edited by: Falaanla Marr ]
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Falaanla Marr was listening to Cher while typing:
Boys and girls, its time for fanboy wars!In this cornahhhh, we have Maradon, Champion of AMD 64 bit processors!
In thiiis cornah, we have Blindy, managed by Naimah. The Champion of Intel!
Our referee for the night will be Azizza, the macintosh Fanboy!
FIGHT!
Sorry, I had to do it. Luv u all.
Actually, that's not all that accurate in this situation. Except Azizza.
And Waisz is right. The thing about the Athlon 64 isn't just that it's 64 bit... it's a HUGE improvement on the old architecture that they needed to do anyway. They just decided to take both steps at once. [ 06-18-2003: Message edited by: Kegwen ]
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This insanity brought to you by Falaanla Marr:
Boys and girls, its time for fanboy wars!In this cornahhhh, we have Maradon, Champion of AMD 64 bit processors!
In thiiis cornah, we have Blindy, managed by Naimah. The Champion of Intel!
Our referee for the night will be Azizza, the macintosh Fanboy!
FIGHT!
Sorry, I had to do it. Luv u all.
Fal that is the funnies thing I have read all da 
I needed a good laugh. Thanks
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Kegwen had this to say about Robocop:
Actually, that's not all that accurate in this situation. Except Azizza.And Waisz is right. The thing about the Athlon 64 isn't just that it's 64 bit... it's a HUGE improvement on the old architecture that they needed to do anyway. They just decided to take both steps at once.
LAUGH YOU BASTARD LAUGH
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Sergeant Blindy's fortune cookie read:
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If Intel is leaps and bounds above AMD, how has AMD's company not bottomed out? How has their stock not plummeted?
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Falaanla Marr had this to say about the Spice Girls:
LAUGH YOU BASTARD LAUGH
NEVER
I did laugh when I first read it
Waisz, they are behind right now. The current architecture is at its limit. Intel's current architecture can go up to, like... 10Ghz if I remember correctly.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Kegwen said:
NEVERI did laugh when I first read it
Waisz, they are behind right now. The current architecture is at its limit. Intel's current architecture can go up to, like... 10Ghz if I remember correctly.
It looks like a slight decline to me, not a massive beatdown.
Maybe I need to put my fanboy glasses on to see it, though.
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Where's Waisz? had this to say about Tron:
ClickyIt looks like a slight decline to me, not a massive beatdown.
Maybe I need to put my fanboy glasses on to see it, though.
HEY. I'm no Intel fanboy. 
Last Intel product I bought was my P2 300 back when they were top of the line.
An Angry fan jumps from the crowd, joining in the Blindy and Naimah camp, touting the Intel superiority!
And yet another leaps from the crowd and strikes at this other newcomer with a fanboy remark!
Reporting from Fanboy battle 2k3, this is Falaanla Marr. More to come as it unfolds!
Intel was running up all through AMDs last decline.
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Naimah impressed everyone with:
This is more interesting.Intel was running up all through AMDs last decline.
It's really more to be expected.
Intel runs a steady increase because they've been around longer. They have commercials, too. Almost any idiot knows what a Pentium is.
AMD purchases are almost wholly reliant on speculation and news around specifically the 'net, though some computer manufacturers do use them.
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Sergeant Blindy painfully thought these words up:
i'm sorry, the stock market has what to do with my processor?
If one car company made a car that sold for $3000, couldn't get into accidents, and got over 300 mpg, how do you think the other car companies would fare?
No competition means less of a reason for better consumer chips.
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So quoth Mortious:
I'm just hoping AMD doesn't go belly-up and die one of these days.No competition means less of a reason for better consumer chips.
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Mortious stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
I'm just hoping AMD doesn't go belly-up and die one of these days.No competition means less of a reason for better consumer chips.
That's especially evident in the time it took to get from 100Mhz to 1GHz compared to the time it took to get from 1GHz to 3GHz with better architecture. [ 06-18-2003: Message edited by: Where's Waisz? ]
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Mortious had this to say about Tron:
I'm just hoping AMD doesn't go belly-up and die one of these days.No competition means less of a reason for better consumer chips.
Amen Mort. I could care less who makes the best chip. I just wnat the best chip for what I do. The Athlon 64 will probably be it soon unless intel matches them pretty quickly. Of course I am looking forward to the IBM 970 a lot more than I am the Athlon64.
However, that was back in April, and it was on one of the lower-end 64's (2800). I've no idea how the real deal will stack up. But from everything I've heard... a mid-range 64 will probably perform as well as high end P4, while the high range 64's will outperform Pentiums.
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Where's Waisz? spewed forth this undeniable truth:
That's especially evident in the time it took to get from 100Mhz to 1GHz compared to the time it took to get from 1GHz to 3GHz with better architecture.
While I have always bought Intel products, and I still think that AMD's existance has done nothing but help today's processors, that isn't the best example given Moore's Law.
