I think the processor they sent as a replacement on my old one is a dud. I've tried both my motherboards, old and new, with both processors, both PCI and AGP video cards and two different monitors. No dice. Still no video.

Tried two different types of DDR 2700 RAM, Crucial brand, and Kingston Brand, and then the old PC133 RAM that worked in my old system. So I'm fairly sure now it's not RAM.

I can't even get the old setup working with video now, though, which leads me to think my initial estimation that my old 1gig Athlon gave out is correct. And the new one I think is a dud. If it were just a motherboard problem, the new one would work in the old motherboard, since according to Tyan, it can handle a 2100+ Athlon XP.

Anyway, I'm leery of getting a processor from newegg now. I'm glad I shelled out the $5 for the one year warranty, but I need something that's going to work, because I've been without a desktop system for going on four weeks now. Can't play EQ. It sucks.

It COULD be that my old motherboard went bad, not my processor, and that the new ASUS Deluxe board is bad as well. They sent me the ASUS board retail, and everything was still in its original packaging. But there is the possibility it's that.

I'm not getting beep codes from the ASUS board, but from research I've done, this board doesn't give beep codes. It gives very faint vocal indicators through the speakers. At least most people have said they can hardly hear them, if they hear them at all.

I really have no way to tell, honestly. I don't have another motherboard, or another processor. I'm going to have a guy at work take a look at it for me, because something has got to be bad.

I can't really give you a good way to test it, unless you have some spare wire laying about. You can connect a certain two pins and check to see if the PSU 'turns on', but with no wire, I wouldn't put the PSU as necessarily working.

If you do have wire, it's pins 4 and 6 on the motherboard connector. Put the wire in those two pins (4th and 6th from the left side), pug the PSU in, and flip the switch on the back of it to 'on'. I don't remember which side is the top, so you'll have to try the 4th and 6th pins for each side. If the fans don't whir to life, the PSU just might be...

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Where's Waisz? had this to say about Robocop:
Power supplies can definitely be dead on arrival.

I can't really give you a good way to test it, unless you have some spare wire laying about. You can connect a certain two pins and check to see if the PSU 'turns on', but with no wire, I wouldn't put the PSU as necessarily working.

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Everthing runs, though. PSU turns on, motherboard is getting power, fan on the heatsink and video card runs. And the drives spin when they're connected. The only problem is that I can't get video.

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Lyinar Ka`Bael Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Everthing runs, though. PSU turns on, motherboard is getting power, fan on the heatsink and video card runs. And the drives spin when they're connected. The only problem is that I can't get video.

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God, you've really got the computer setup from hell.

I only offer my condolences. I thought I was up the shit creek when my reservoir and video card both broke at the same time.

My old processor and motherboard were used when I got them. So it's plausible they may have just given out, especially since I had a lot of trouble with disconnections and freezing up and such in EQ for a good couple of months before I started trying to build the new system.

It would really suck if newegg sent me two more duds in the new motherboard and processor, though.

It's ironic I have to say. When I put the last system together, I had no trouble at all. I guess it's making up for lost time.

Maybe your setup is goth?

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Once my friend has a look at things and is able to test my motherboards and processors with his own stuff that works, and we determine what's working and what's not, I'm going to try to get newegg to give me a refund on whatever's DOA.

If you find 15 minutes, just unmount your mobo, and grab the little foam mat it came with, set the mobo on the pad with the ram/cpu/vid card installed, no drives at all, plug in the ATX connector and that's all.

Just as barebone as it gets, and try that, just as a favour to me.

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my only advice would be to test outside the case, because it's my theory that you're grounding out on the mounting pins...

If you find 15 minutes, just unmount your mobo, and grab the little foam mat it came with, set the mobo on the pad with the ram/cpu/vid card installed, no drives at all, plug in the ATX connector and that's all.

Just as barebone as it gets, and try that, just as a favour to me.

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Everything I tried today was with the motherboards on that little mat, completely outside the case. So it's not the case grounding anything out.

I use that exact model board and have heard the beep codes

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The logic train ran off the tracks when Naimah said:
Are you sure that your monitor isn't FUBAR?

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Checked that on Mom's computer.

Does it Fal? The manual implied default was that voice system, and so did the posts on the tech boards I viewed about it.

I currently have it back to old motherboard, old processor, old RAM, old PSU, old video card and the only new thing is a new heatsink. But I've tried two different new heatsinks and neither works. My old heatsink is shot, so I can't try that.

And it's not even working with the old setup.

I hooked just it up again, after again replacing the battery with a new replacement...and I got "No CPU installed" from the speakers. So I got a response.

But now I've got the new CPU and heatsink on, and I'm not getting any messages. If it was CPU failure, it should be telling me that.

Anyone familiar with A7N8X Deluxe boards and know why I might be getting that?

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Okay. I think the new motherboard may be okay. Maybe.

I hooked just it up again, after again replacing the battery with a new replacement...and I got "No CPU installed" from the speakers. So I got a response.

But now I've got the new CPU and heatsink on, and I'm not getting any messages. If it was CPU failure, it should be telling me that.

Anyone familiar with A7N8X Deluxe boards and know why I might be getting that?

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So you are not getting the normal post beat? If not, then its back to the video card.

Now, this board can handle DDR400 RAM. I've read something that it's default BIOS setting is 400. I think my problems may stem from the fact that I need to put a DDR400 stick just to get into the BIOS so I can change it to accept DDR333.

With the new processor, I don't get "System failed memory test" oddly enough. I don't get a CPU failure message with either processor. Just only the old processor tells me there is a RAM failure.

I'm thinking my old motherboard may have finally given up the ghost. The old processor in the new motherboard seems to work fine.

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Unfortunately, the A7N8X Deluxe has no onboard video. But I know the video card works. It worked in the previous system before whatever went out that went out.

I'm thinking my old motherboard may have finally given up the ghost. The old processor in the new motherboard seems to work fine.

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good for you for buying a board that doesn't have onboard video

I hate the fact that I often have to pay up to 3 times as much for a board without onboard sound, onboard ethernet, onboard video etc. I have my own video card, sound card and ethernet card thanks.

But onboard video gets in your way sometimes. Quite a pain.

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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Actually, it has onboard sound, which I'll disable when I can get into the BIOS, and it has two onboard RJ-45 jacks. One is NVIDIA and the other is 3Com. I don't mind those.

But onboard video gets in your way sometimes. Quite a pain.

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what soundcard are you putting in there?

unless you have an audigy2, a fortissimo 7.1 or an M-audio revolution (or something exotic like a terratec) you'd be better off sticking with the soundstorm audio.

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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Going to put in a Sound Blaster, uhhh, forget which. It's not in front of me right now. Think it's SB Live and the onboard sound might be better, however, it's an EQ machine and I doubt it's supported.

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if it's an SBlive, you'd be MUCH better off going with the onboard... And yes, it should work absolutely fine.

Btw, I am 99.9% sure I know what's wrong. It IS the RAM. But it's not that it's bad RAM. With the ASUS A7N8X Deluxe at least, I have seen talk on tech boards that the default RAM setting is *400*. Of course, my 2700 is only 333.

I've finally gotten the motherboard to vocally give me error messages. I had to replace the battery that I had replaced. I must have gotten a dud.

So when I try my 2700 DDR333 RAM, I'm getting a "System failed memory test". I think I need a 400 stick to at least get things going, get into the BIOS and change the RAM setting to accept 333. Then I think I'll be in business.

I tried changing the jumper for FSB on the motherboard from 266/333 to the 200 option, but I'm still getting a memory failure. I don't think the RAM itself is bad. I've got three different sticks. I think it's the default setting that's screwing me over.

I mean I'm not going to be able to get video without RAM, right? And now I have confirmation that the memory test is failing.

I'm going to call Crucial and see if I can get an RMA to return the 256 stick I just bought and exchange it for 3200. I was smart and I went through their motherboard matcher, and they guarantee it works with that.

Of course, it *would* work in the board. But it's not going to work until I can reset the RAM from 400 to 333. So with luck I can get the exchange, and only be out the cost of the 128 333 Kingston stick I bought before.

Besides, if SoE doesn't support nForce onboard sound, then they just suck.

Generally if something isn't supposed, they'll make it very clear on their tech support site. It's not even mentioned..

I don't really care what you choose to do, but the onboard sound is much better than the SB Live =/