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Fizodeth
an unflattering title
posted 05-18-2003 01:24:38 AM
I'm going to be going to a gaming shop and buying up some Warhammer stuff. Planning on making an ork army, probably going to be taking around $80 bucks, what should I plan on spending for an Ork codex, basic rulebook, what sort of paints and brushes should I buy, and what Ork units should I get to start off with?
Snugglits
I LIKE TO ABUSE THE ALERT MOD BUTTON AND I ENJOY THE FLAVOR OF SWEET SWEET COCK.
posted 05-18-2003 01:33:16 AM
WH:40k is notoriously expensive. $80 will get you started, but, sorry to bear bad news here...it won't get you too far.

Plan to spend mucho dinero on metal grots after finding the plastic ones have been cancelled long ago, even though they may be the mainstay of your army.

I'm not sure what the codex costs, but make sure to get some of the leaders. It's been a while, so I don't have any names, but the codex provides what you need to play. There's some sets of pretty basic infantry out there, too.

[ 05-18-2003: Message edited by: Where's Waisz? ]

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Fizodeth
an unflattering title
posted 05-18-2003 01:34:37 AM
quote:
This one time, at Where's Waisz? camp:
WH:40k is notoriously expensive. $80 will get you started, but, sorry to bear bad news here...it won't get you too far.

I've known this for a while, that's why I asked what I should get to start off with, the most important part of an army that no one should go without, I can flesh out the rest later with the codex.

Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 05-18-2003 01:39:06 AM
It'll be especially hard to flesh out a starting Ork army with just 80 bucks. I can't tell you anything specfic, but try to start with a fairly general, coherent group of units. A commander, some basic troops, and then one centerpiece (like a Shokk Gun or Storm Boyz, if they still exist).

Buy the Codex first and thumb through it to see which units you'll need to get a playable force together. Then, buy 'em!

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Snugglits
I LIKE TO ABUSE THE ALERT MOD BUTTON AND I ENJOY THE FLAVOR OF SWEET SWEET COCK.
posted 05-18-2003 01:40:19 AM
Worry about gluing your pieces together. Orks are too numerous and coarse, in my opinion, to be worth detail painting.
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DS
Perma-Newbie
posted 05-18-2003 01:55:41 AM
2 boxes of boyz and a warboss (warboss on warbike, if you plan on speedfreeks, like i suggest). Boyz, Model them as slugga boys, shootaz are worthless (BS 2 and rapid fire, instead of ws 4 pistol/ccw troops? Come on!) If you have any cash afterwards (some game shops are pricy), I'd suggest you get a trukk or trak, or even a warbike.. i'm fairly sure that a regular warboss can be on a warbike, so just use him and your boys in a normal footsloggaz, than you can either expand on your footsloggaz or go speed freeks (you know which i suggest).

I'd just like to make the point solid that even in a speed freekz army, you STILL NEED YOUR BOYZ. A strong warboss isn't just important, it's REQUIRED, which is why i suggest a warboos on a warbike. You might want to pick up a nob or 2 on warbikes for his nobz retinue. 2 mobz off either slugga boyz or slugga trukk boyz is needed for any hope of success with an ork army. Fleshing out from here, you'll probably want to look into some burna boyz and warbuggies or wartrakks.

[ 05-18-2003: Message edited by: DS ]

Ragabash
Pancake
posted 05-18-2003 01:55:55 AM
Shokk attack gun! Sacrifice the snotlings! Make them go insane from the horrors of warp!

It's a good artillery piece, or was in 2nd ed.

I was always fond of Goff Ork Scarboyz.

Feed my hungry soul.
DS
Perma-Newbie
posted 05-18-2003 01:58:58 AM
I'm fairly sure the shokk attack gun is no more. It undermined the ork army in it's fashion of gameplays as well as the depiction of the army it was played in. Andy chambers said it best when Orks weren't meant to be a joke army. They were supposed to be ferocious, which in some instances may be humour, but not slapstick, like the shokk attack gun.

And when it comes to painting, don't let your troops fall into poor detail simply because they aren't an important character. The lovely thing about ork armies is there potential for character. It really says a good thing about your army if you spend time and dedication to give detail and personality to each model.

[ 05-18-2003: Message edited by: DS ]

Ragabash
Pancake
posted 05-18-2003 02:01:51 AM
*sigh* one more reason for me to dislike 3rd ed.
Feed my hungry soul.
Dave
)_(
posted 05-18-2003 02:29:02 AM
Don't buy the rule book. Borrow a friends to read. Buying all the rule books you would need will cost you atleast 150/100 dollars.

2. Buy from warstore.net if they still have the discount.

3. Don't buy gw paint and brushes. While they have 40k names for the colors they cost too much and you get too little. Stop by a craft store or a hoby store for water based paints and primers.

4. Orks will be a very very costly army. But I'm pretty sure 80 bucks is enough for a orc box set.
http://www.thewarstore.com/acatalog/Orks.html has a list of stuff.

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 05-18-2003 02:30:55 AM
Can't you just play with figurines you made yourself with toothpicks, colored construction paper and tacky glue?
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DS
Perma-Newbie
posted 05-18-2003 04:04:30 AM
Disregard what dave said about buying codices. Buy a used BBB at your local gaming place, usually they haveo ne without the box. Also buy whatever codices you'll be using for your army, which, in this case, will most probably just be codex orks, codex armageddon (maybe), and maybe imperial armour update or chapter approved 2k3. People will NOT regard you as a serious player if you don't have official codices on hand and many will refuse to play with you outright. Not to mention you are, if i'm not mistaken, required to have your armies codex on hand if you participate in a GW sanctioned tournament.

When it comes to paint, i've used several generic hobby-brand acrylics and they have never worked as well as citadel paints in this particular area, so I suggest seriously that you simply bite the bullet and get citadel in the paint area, however, when it comes to paintbrushes, you have free reign. Citadel brushes are on par with any other brush on the market (i have a couple in my collection of many).

On the subject of ordering online, when it comes to discounts, you got in at about the time they cut them off. I believe it is.. as of july 15th, Games workshop will bar online retailers other than themselves from peddling GW items. So, pretty much, no discount online stores. However, until than, i suggest www.megacg.com
I've had a good track record with them and you can probably get some pretty good prices in their GW sections death throes.

DS
Perma-Newbie
posted 05-18-2003 04:05:37 AM
Disregard what dave said about buying codices. Buy a used BBB at your local gaming place, usually they haveo ne without the box. Also buy whatever codices you'll be using for your army, which, in this case, will most probably just be codex orks, codex armageddon (maybe), and maybe imperial armour update or chapter approved 2k3. People will NOT regard you as a serious player if you don't have official codices on hand and many will refuse to play with you outright. Not to mention you are, if i'm not mistaken, required to have your armies codex on hand if you participate in a GW sanctioned tournament.

When it comes to paint, i've used several generic hobby-brand acrylics and they have never worked as well as citadel paints in this particular area, so I suggest seriously that you simply bite the bullet and get citadel in the paint area, however, when it comes to paintbrushes, you have free reign. Citadel brushes are on par with any other brush on the market (i have a couple in my collection of many).

On the subject of ordering online, when it comes to discounts, you got in at about the time they cut them off. I believe it is.. as of july 15th, Games workshop will bar online retailers other than themselves from peddling GW items. So, pretty much, no discount online stores. However, until than, i suggest www.megacg.com
I've had a good track record with them and you can probably get some pretty good prices in their GW sections death throes.

Dave
)_(
posted 05-18-2003 05:07:53 AM
Ya my bad sorry. The codex for your own army is a must. But I personaly think that if you only have 80ish bucks to spend. The best thing to do would be buy a core army, build/paint that. By the time your done with them, then you should have enough for your codex and some other units.

If you want to fool around with point costs of units download army builder.
http://www.wolflair.com/rightframe.php?context=army_builder&page=downloads

You can only do 500 points at a time but its much easier than doing it by hand.

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 05-18-2003 06:29:56 AM
OMG, but orcs are not GOTH!

You must play Necrons instead!

~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Lalamile
My title doesn't even make sense any more
posted 05-18-2003 02:04:02 PM
Army Codexs, and a few of these http://www.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.us?game=&database=28&imagesize=b&Cookie=&do=Individual&code=3020

[ 05-18-2003: Message edited by: Lalamile ]

Peter
Pancake
posted 05-18-2003 02:29:39 PM
quote:
DS thought about the meaning of life:
///When it comes to paint, i've used several generic hobby-brand acrylics and they have never worked as well as citadel paints in this particular area, so I suggest seriously that you simply bite the bullet and get citadel in the paint area, however, when it comes to paintbrushes, you have free reign. Citadel brushes are on par with any other brush on the market (i have a couple in my collection of many).
....

What sort of paint have you used? Thinned out applebarrel cheapy craft acrylics work fine for base coats and large areas. I would avoid Testor's acrylics, cause quite franky they blow, Taymia work well, cept they can be hard to find, and often not the right shades. If you do paint alot of these things, the cheapest what to buy paint is to go to an art store, and by artist acrylics in tubes and thin them down.My problem with citadel paints is the bottles, they are not condusive to storeing the paint well.

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