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Topic: Whine hate whine :(
Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 05-10-2003 07:40:44 PM
So...

Why the heck do blademasters AND heroes get ignore pain and purge cheaper, but also get determination (anti-mezz), which are three uber important skills, while champions don't? WE'RE FREAKING TANKS TOO, YOU KNOW.

And don't say 'cuz you all get magic realm abilities'.

Wild Arcana? Practically useless. Debuffs really don't get time to be cast in rvr, anyway, and it wouldn't matter much.

MCl and raging power? Blah. That's silly. Maybe if I had 100 RP.

Ooh, serenity. Oh, wait, we never have enough power anyway.

Grr. Sorry, it bugs me that champs didn't get something that the other tanks (champs are afull tank class with about 15% caster in them) got.

Also, our special ability blows.

I love my champ, but I'm bitter.

Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
Talonus
Loner
posted 05-10-2003 07:43:25 PM
Champions are a hybrid. Hybrids do not get cheap melee abilities. This happens in all realms, cept with the savage.
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 05-10-2003 07:59:39 PM
Lenny
The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 05-10-2003 08:14:28 PM
quote:
Talonus spewed forth this undeniable truth:
Champions are a hybrid. Hybrids do not get cheap melee abilities. This happens in all realms, cept with the savage.

Couldn't they just reduce the cost a little, then? 14 RP is like... a million jillion RP, since I spent my easy points on other things.

Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
Talonus
Loner
posted 05-10-2003 08:19:04 PM
quote:
Lenlalron Flameblaster thought about the meaning of life:
Couldn't they just reduce the cost a little, then? 14 RP is like... a million jillion RP, since I spent my easy points on other things.

No, it'd cause casters to throw a fit. They hate the fact that pure melees have the low costs as is. Mythic would never get away with giving it to hybrids now.

CBTao
Pancake
posted 05-11-2003 02:46:49 AM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Lenlalron Flameblaster wrote:
So...

Why the heck do blademasters AND heroes get ignore pain and purge cheaper, but also get determination (anti-mezz), which are three uber important skills, while champions don't? WE'RE FREAKING TANKS TOO, YOU KNOW.

And don't say 'cuz you all get magic realm abilities'.

Wild Arcana? Practically useless. Debuffs really don't get time to be cast in rvr, anyway, and it wouldn't matter much.

MCl and raging power? Blah. That's silly. Maybe if I had 100 RP.

Ooh, serenity. Oh, wait, we never have enough power anyway.

Grr. Sorry, it bugs me that champs didn't get something that the other tanks (champs are afull tank class with about 15% caster in them) got.

Also, our special ability blows.

I love my champ, but I'm bitter.


heh, play a paladin, then you can bitch.

on the more serious note, pure melees got that because they have -no- ranged attack and no speed buff (something paladins also conveniently lack)

so they had to have skills that would assist their lack of anything in that area, champions have that irritating snare, debuffs, nukes, thanes have nukes out the wazoo, pure-melees have no real decent ranged attack

ignore pain is so they survive to get there, same with determination, etc etc

so yeah, thats why its the way it is

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 05-11-2003 02:59:45 AM
I'm still pissed that I didn't get to have any fun in BG0 being as there were like, 10 people on at most at one point, whereas the Albs had 5 full groups they were using to take over keeps with...
DS
Perma-Newbie
posted 05-11-2003 04:20:45 AM
The fact that your whining blademasters getting something and your class not getting it, well, i'm sorry, but I really have no respect for you anymore. Considerin - fuck it. I'm not going to even go into it.
Nwist, Who?
Nwist
posted 05-11-2003 05:26:00 AM
quote:
DS's fortune cookie read:
The fact that your whining blademasters getting something and your class not getting it, well, i'm sorry, but I really have no respect for you anymore.

It's a game. Get over it.

Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 05-11-2003 08:22:06 AM
quote:
DS said this about your mom:
The fact that your whining blademasters getting something and your class not getting it, well, i'm sorry, but I really have no respect for you anymore. Considerin - fuck it. I'm not going to even go into it.

As if you've, you know, never ever whined about anything ever.

Also, anyone who knows anything about champs knows that the DEBUFFS ARE STILL BROKEN (They only are about... 56-65% effective, at last count)

I also understand why pure melees got that, I understand fully why, and Im glad they did.

I still think 14 (actually, 23, considering first aid, which has its uses, but isn't one of the best skills out there) is waaaay too much.

And msot champs I've seen quite agree, although this is a lost cause.

If it makes you feel better, DS, I think that blademasters should get scale, and a ton of stuff.

Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
Talonus
Loner
posted 05-11-2003 08:29:14 AM
quote:
CBTao spewed forth this undeniable truth:
heh, play a paladin, then you can bitch.

Honestly, in Albion paladins are VERY requested these days, in both RvR and PvE. You're mostly an endbot and guardbot, but you're also more likely to live through a fight because you're the least important person to attack behind a armsman/merc. They're still not going to be doing major damage, but that's not really their purpose. Oh, and paladin's taunt spells count as a ranged attack since they interrupt casting, speed, etc.

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