WHEN THE HELL DO THEY DO SOMETHING BESIDES RUN AND HIDE?!?
Seriously! Even in Lord of the Rings, it was usually the Hobbits who ran and hid and acted like pussies, at least Aragorn and Legolas stood and fought. In this book, even the two who are able to fight run and hide all the time!
I have no idea why this shit is so popular. The characters are boring, there is next to no action, and he spends more time describing how the heroes shit their pants when a butterfly lands 100 feet away than he does writing a plot.
I'm not the only one who thought that then...
Not even half of first book.
It's laying around here somewhere... should trade it in.
Jordan has the very tolkienesque problem of feeling the need to describe anything and everything in the world, but what really kills the series is the way the world spins out of his control by book 5 or so.
If you like epic fantasy, read George Martin's "Fire and Ice" series instead. He has his world in gear, his character are more interesting, and he doesn't describe every tree the characters come across.
David Eddings owns his arse very hard and very true.
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Repeat for 3. Repeat for 4. Repeat for 5, but Rand is starting to turn into a bad-arse and enemies run from him. 
Book One is very very very slow. Towards the end, it really starts to pick up. And then it never looks back. Through each book it just gets better and better.
Things will start to happen later on that make reference to things as far back as the first book that make you go "Whoa, didn't even notice that.
His steel belt buckle was small and vibrant, glimmering in the sunlight as it always did. The buckle was brand new, purchased from the GAP down on fourth street; the same street this young prairie dog wanna-be has spent many nights swaggering down, looking for a place to vomit after a night of drinking and merryment.
From his stained and brown burlap sack he removed a single item. Not two, not three, just one. It was a cardboard tube, mass manufactured in only God knows where, with shimmering white sheets of thin paper twirled around the tube. The original idea for such a product is as old as 1391. Chinese emperors ordered paper in sheets, six-foot-square sheets much larger than the three-by-three inches young Parcelan is using now.
His face..
Fuck this, my hands are cramping up, and the mental images of Parcelan taking a shit will surely drive me mad if I continue. [ 05-05-2003: Message edited by: DU ]
It's not something people hear about.
He spends chapter after chapter establishing characters that are all the same. There is a vague difference between the characters.
Rand is scared and has a sword.
Mat is scared and has weak attempts at being the comic relief.
Perrin is scared and talks to wolves.
Egwene is scared and is a girl.
Thom is a gleeman.
That's about it.
And seriously, this whole 'Light and Dark' concept is so overdone and basic it's ridiculous. Light is always good. Dark is always bad. Fuck, they could at least give it a name or something.
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Bajah said:
I'll tell you the same thing I tell everyone.
Book One is very very very slow. Towards the end, it really starts to pick up. And then it never looks back. Through each book it just gets better and better.Things will start to happen later on that make reference to things as far back as the first book that make you go "Whoa, didn't even notice that.
MAYBE considered a spoiler, but...
This is true until the last 3 books, in my opinion. It's been progressively downhill lately. Personally, I despise almost every female in these books and the last 3 have concentrated on them so much it's pissing me off. Each to their own though
edit: clarified something. [ 05-05-2003: Message edited by: Ragabash ]
I've read up to the start of Crossroads of Twilight, mainly because I liked the Forsaken. But now, whenever they start to do something interesting, Rand shows up and kills them immediately.
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
THAT is why it is starting to slow down. Personally, I like the story and how it has progressed and also how it's starting to wind down for the finale.
The first book was very slow.. even I had to struggle through it. By the time it ended, though, I was ready to start the next.. and then the next.
It starts off slow, yes, but once it gets rolling, it keeps going.
Anyone who expects it to not wind down apparently is looking for a neverending story.
If you don't like the books, then don't read them. If you can hang tough and get past all the groundwork, you'll get more and more depth and story to understand and follow with.
MorbId... you're just so wrong, it hurts me on many levels. How much have you read? Rather, how much have you comprehended? The Forsaken are doing a lot more than you apparently think and death hasn't even stopped a few of them.
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
I gave up after Crown of Swords. It had allready become clear to me that he had no intention of taking the story decently to its end. It was starting to drag out, with stuff getting thrown in for no good reason. I decided to wait till book 10 came out, and then, MAYBE, read it all again.
Silly me. What made me think he would end it at book 10?
I'm sorry, but I now feel that WoT is one of the biggest peices of literary shit ever written. There is no more feeling for the characters, just a desire to see them die so that it will all end at last. Rocks fall, everyone dies.
Parce, throw the book away. Don't even keep it so you can rip the pages out to wipe with. This series causes burnout worse than EQ ever did.
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Katrinity had this to say about (_|_):
Parce, have your read any other 10+ book series so far?
That doesn't excuse it. Not by a longshot.
More books should equal more story. It shouldn't take one whole fucking book to set up shit.
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
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Iron Parcelan had this to say about Captain Planet:
That doesn't excuse it. Not by a longshot.More books should equal more story. It shouldn't take one whole fucking book to set up shit.
When you can write 1000 page ish books in a huge series and keep it interesting from the beginning without setting much up to explain whats going on in later books, we'll talk. ^.^
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Katrinity probably says this to all the girls:
When you can write 1000 page ish books in a huge series and keep it interesting from the beginning without setting much up to explain whats going on in later books, we'll talk. ^.^
You don't have to be able to write bad books to know a bad book when you see it.
You're just trying to defend something you think is cool, but is a literary abomination. Ergo, if you continue to speak, we will bomb you.
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
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From the book of Katrinity, chapter 3, verse 16:
When you can write 1000 page ish books in a huge series and keep it interesting from the beginning without setting much up to explain whats going on in later books, we'll talk. ^.^
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Katrinity thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
I can see the Song of Ice and Fire series winding down in 2 books or so.
Which is what WoT should have done.
Then, if he wanted to write some more books sets in the WoT world, he could have. That would have been the way to go.
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Iron Parcelan had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
...and I'm about halfway through "The Eye of the World", and I must pose a question.WHEN THE HELL DO THEY DO SOMETHING BESIDES RUN AND HIDE?!?
Seriously! Even in Lord of the Rings, it was usually the Hobbits who ran and hid and acted like pussies, at least Aragorn and Legolas stood and fought. In this book, even the two who are able to fight run and hide all the time!
I have no idea why this shit is so popular. The characters are boring, there is next to no action, and he spends more time describing how the heroes shit their pants when a butterfly lands 100 feet away than he does writing a plot.
Amen! I have been saying this all along. AMEN!
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Katrinity had this to say about Pirotess:
I can see the Song of Ice and Fire series winding down in 2 books or so.
Well, he only plans three more books...
In the three books out at the moment however, the plot is only accelerating from book to book. Little to no time at the beggining of each book is spent summarizing what happened at the end of the last one. The numerous PoV's also help to keep it interesting...
Tyrion Lannister > any character in WoT
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
