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Topic: EXP, PoN vs HHK
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Pancake
posted 04-22-2003 02:04:45 PM
My classmate and I have a disagreement. He thinks that exp at lvl 53 (for a Beastlord) solo'ing in HHK is better exp than grouping in the PoN. I think this is a load of crap, I've hunted in both zones and I find PoN to be much better. I'm lvl 61 and finding it to be incredible exp for AA still.

What do you think? Who is right?

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 04-22-2003 02:07:34 PM
While oldworld mobs are complete and utter fucking pansies compared to Ykesha/PoP mobs, the XP bonuses in those zones more then make up for it on a per kill basis.

For kills over a set amount of time, though, nothing like oldworld.

Sean
posted 04-22-2003 02:53:50 PM
PoN blows.

Your friend may be right.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 04-22-2003 03:39:37 PM
HHK is probably better since the mobs are lower HP, lower resist and slightly lower aggro.

Duoing in PoN with a 55 Warrior and a 57 Shaman I can tell you sucks. Mobs slow ok, but they have way too much in HP. Granted trying to heal a 4k+ HP warrior with Cloro sucks ass. Might be better now that I have my 2k heal, but I'm probably gonna stick with PoJ for a while.

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Espio Idsavant
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posted 04-22-2003 03:59:57 PM
err... on my server HHK = Highhold Keep... which last I checked was about a level 20 zone...

So uh, yea at level 50 I would expect PoN to be a tad better exp

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Meridian
Pancake
posted 04-22-2003 04:09:40 PM
Is there really anything in HHK higher than level 30?
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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 04-22-2003 04:11:02 PM
quote:
Espio Idsavant impressed everyone with:
err... on my server HHK = Highhold Keep... which last I checked was about a level 20 zone...

So uh, yea at level 50 I would expect PoN to be a tad better exp


HHK Guards. They go up into the 40's.

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Espio Idsavant
You have gotten better at Being a Lush! (200)
posted 04-22-2003 04:26:00 PM
Oh. Well, still, if the guards are only in thier 40s then PoN is better - not aware of any exp mod in HHK that would make level 40 mobs give more exp then level 50s.

Of course, there is something to be said for the availabilty of mobs and the lack of "TRAIN OF FIVE BILLION PISSED OFF MOBS TO THE ZONE!!!" in HHK that prolly make the exp flow more steady then PoN.

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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 04-22-2003 04:35:54 PM
On a per-mob basis you're right.

However killing 30+ mid-blues in an hour is better XP than killing 12 dark-blues in the sime time span. It's about volume at that point, not quality per mob.

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Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 04-22-2003 05:14:18 PM
if it takes an hour for a full PoD/PoN/PoI group to kill 12 mobs it's a shitty group.

hell, in PoD CYs you can get a kill a minute if you're chain pulling in a high DPS group.

of course, ALL XP is utter and total shit once you get flagged for PoV.

mmmmmm Crystaline Golems.....*drool*

Error
Pancake
posted 04-22-2003 05:54:23 PM
quote:
DƒU's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
PoN blows.

Your friend may be right.


PoN sucking for a lvl 53? I think not.

Skaw
posted 04-22-2003 06:02:36 PM
quote:
Afro Gee was listening to Cher while typing:
if it takes an hour for a full PoD/PoN/PoI group to kill 12 mobs it's a shitty group.

hell, in PoD CYs you can get a kill a minute if you're chain pulling in a high DPS group.

of course, ALL XP is utter and total shit once you get flagged for PoV.

mmmmmm Crystaline Golems.....*drool*


Inner cave camp > Anything I've seen in Tier 1 and Tier 2.

Plus Sleep Walker is good loot if you group could take him.

[ 04-22-2003: Message edited by: Skaw ]

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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 04-22-2003 06:09:21 PM
quote:
Afro Gee was naked while typing this:
if it takes an hour for a full PoD/PoN/PoI group to kill 12 mobs it's a shitty group.

hell, in PoD CYs you can get a kill a minute if you're chain pulling in a high DPS group.

of course, ALL XP is utter and total shit once you get flagged for PoV.

mmmmmm Crystaline Golems.....*drool*


Um... Hello? Solo?

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Skaw
posted 04-22-2003 06:14:33 PM
quote:
This one time, at Random Insanity Generator camp:
Um... Hello? Solo?

He's a cleric. That term is very foreign to him

Dire Charm owns. PoI is easy solo at 1% AA/kill, even with the 50% exp tap the mob takes from me.

I finally have progression fall back for when I can't find a group!

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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 04-22-2003 06:17:58 PM
PoN is just too annoying unless you like root rotting things or are a bastard charm kiting bard.
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Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 04-22-2003 06:22:24 PM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator painfully thought these words up:
HHK Guards. They go up into the 40's.

Nobles. 5 minute spawn, low resists, low hp, and they don't aggro guards.

Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 04-22-2003 07:17:42 PM
PoV exp is just junk once you get flagged for Tactics though.
Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 04-22-2003 08:34:50 PM
i'm not going to be flagged for tactics for a loooooooooooooooong time though

i'm gonna be perfectly happy getting to 62, 63-65 spells don't drop in PoV, and working on AA till i get flagged for BoT/HoH/PoTactics.

and i do solo. just not on my Cleric prolly what i'm gonna do on Monkly is duo him with a Necro buddy of mine and just fear/snare shit in either PoD/PoN. full (necro dots + pet + fear) + (Beastlord melee + Bst pet + Bst dots + gimp pre-60 slow) = ubah duo'ing right outside the CY wall in PoD or in PoN right by that big open area.

it's kinda hard to find anyone who solo'd in PoP on Xegony (cept goddamn quad kiting pink wizards in PoV) but whole loads of people duo.

Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 04-22-2003 11:39:00 PM
quote:
Skaw spewed forth this undeniable truth:
Dire Charm owns. PoI is easy solo at 1% AA/kill, even with the 50% exp tap the mob takes from me.

I finally have progression fall back for when I can't find a group!


Nice that YOU can solo, mr charm isnt too powerful.

Nice that you can almost ALWAYS get a damn group too.

Oh, that 50% hit is just SO SO SO bad! Just SO TERRIBLE. ONLY 1% AAXP a kill solo. I'd LOVE to be able to get near that solo in the pla...wait...solo in the planes?

How can you LIVE with that?

[ 04-22-2003: Message edited by: Falaanla Marr ]

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Pancake
posted 04-23-2003 01:30:06 AM
Doesn't Dire Charm only work for mobs up to lvl 45?
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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 04-23-2003 09:46:14 AM
quote:
Delyl Caledor got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Doesn't Dire Charm only work for mobs up to lvl 45?

49.

And some of the Tier 1 enrtry mobs are in their mid to upper 40's.

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Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 04-23-2003 09:51:06 AM
Go level in Befallen! Mad wild Exp!
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Skaw
posted 04-23-2003 01:14:18 PM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator had this to say about (_|_):
49.

46.

Oh yeah, Fal, I guess you forgot about soloing half your 50's in Katta

I would never trade up grouping for soloing with charm. Its just retarted to throw away better, faster chances at getting some reward, aside from experience, for that risk your in.

quote:
Afro Gee had this to say about Tron:
63-65

PoD
Spectral Parchments
Rallius Rattican
Grummus

PoN
Spectral Parchments
And Infernal Consort
The Painwracked Hobgoblin
A Construct of Nightmares

PoV
Spectral Parchments
The Sleep Walker(1 group do able)
Aerin'dar

PoS
Spectral Parchments
Drornok Tok Vo'Lok
Ston'Ruak, Ancient of Trees(Drops Glyphed Rune Words for 65th spells as well)

I'm sure theres more than these, but it obviously proves you didn't even bother looking to check if you can get 63-65 spells before the Tier 3s.

[ 04-23-2003: Message edited by: Skaw ]

Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 04-23-2003 06:13:55 PM
note, those are all named mobs you dumbfuck. the only XP mob there is the Consort in PoN and when i actually read the player comments on it there was no verification that it drops spectral. in fact, there was confirmation that they drop lots of Ethreal parchments, which is true in my own experience of killing the mobs, leading me to beileve that they made a typo.

but then you have your head so far cleaved up your ass all the time i'm suprised you haven't died from methane inhalation.

Sean
posted 04-23-2003 06:17:18 PM
I know one person that shouldn't be concerned about losing his pants.
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