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Pancake
posted 04-17-2003 04:41:30 AM
I'm about 5 pages away from finishing the Silmarillion.

Now I need to find myself another book to read. I'm only into Fantasy (Tolkein style for the most part, and I hate Robert Jordan). Any suggestions?

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 04-17-2003 04:44:11 AM
Read Black Boy!@

Oh wait...that's autobiography.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piƱa coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Comrade Snoota
Communist
Da, Tovarisch!
posted 04-17-2003 04:47:17 AM
quote:
Delyl Caledor attempted to be funny by writing:
Tolkein style for the most part

You mean books where the writer spends ten pages describing one hill, and then less than one paragraph describing what the characters DO on that hill, only to start over again with a brand new hill?

You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
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Pancake
posted 04-17-2003 04:48:27 AM
quote:
A sleep deprived Comrade Snoota stammered:
You mean books where the writer spends ten pages describing one hill, and then less than one paragraph describing what the characters DO on that hill, only to start over again with a brand new hill?

Got any proof to back up those words?

Comrade Snoota
Communist
Da, Tovarisch!
posted 04-17-2003 04:50:33 AM
Every boring book(re: all!) Tolkein has ever written?
You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
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Pancake
posted 04-17-2003 04:51:45 AM
Lol, I never noticed.
Nicole
The hip-hop-happiest bunny in all of marshmallow woods
posted 04-17-2003 04:53:08 AM
Sean Stewart, The Night Watch. It's magic-realism, so you might not like it, but the writing is fucking fabulous and it's got enough crazy gods and magic and demon kung fu girls and sci fi weirdness and grim reaper type dudes in top hats and tails and crazy attacking forests and people named Raining that it's really, really cool.


I just spent
my last cent
purchasing this poverty.

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Pancake
posted 04-17-2003 04:54:45 AM
That book sounded good until I read the part about:

quote:
demon kung fu girls
Nicole
The hip-hop-happiest bunny in all of marshmallow woods
posted 04-17-2003 04:56:26 AM
What's wrong with demon kung fu girls?


I just spent
my last cent
purchasing this poverty.

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Pancake
posted 04-17-2003 05:01:00 AM
I don't like to read about Kung Fu, I just like to see it.
Nicole
The hip-hop-happiest bunny in all of marshmallow woods
posted 04-17-2003 05:06:58 AM
quote:
Delyl Caledor obviously shouldn't have said:
I don't like to read about Kung Fu, I just like to see it.

The demon kung fu girl is actually a relatively small part of the story, and a lot of it revolves around futuristic chinese nobility anyway, plus this crazy, crazy form of magic that spawns the demon kung fu girl. 'Sides, she's incredibly cool so that makes up for it.

Sean Stewart's stuff isn't so much high fantasy as it is the modern or futuristic day set with fantasy elements, most notably magic... the way he describes and does magic in his books is just un-fucking-believable. It's more than just a wizardly tool, it's a mysterious, DANGEROUS force that acts on it's own whims and is more something to be feared and locked away than wielded with wild abandon. All those weird things... demon kung fu girls, crazy gods, attacking forests, grim reaper type guys, those are all products of that magic. Even in a faintly sci fi environmnt, it all FITS.

If you want more fantasy-ish works by the same author, Clouds End and Nobody's Son are there, though Clouds End isn't his best work it's heavily Tolkien-influenced (as you can tell by the ending bit), and Nobody's Son has a rather neato, "after the happily ever after" thing that still has it's magic, freaky old guys and cursed swords with wicked names.



I just spent
my last cent
purchasing this poverty.

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Pancake
posted 04-17-2003 05:12:40 AM
You wouldn't happen to have any samples of his writing would you? Or links?
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 04-17-2003 11:01:49 AM
Even though you bash RJ...(bastid )

Glen Cook's 'The Black Company' series

Tad Williams 'Green Angel Tower' series (and even though its not medievil-ish fantasy, try out the Otherworld series, its about in the not so distant future about a neural VR internet and a game world that starts sucking the minds of children who play them into it.)

Melanie Rawn's 'Dragon Prince' series

Michelle West's 'The Sun Sword' series

Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman's Dragonlance Chronicles or their Death Gate Cycle series

George R. R. Martin's 'Song of Fire and Ice' series

and many more I can't remember off the top of my head

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 04-17-2003 11:42:06 AM
quote:
Katrinity had this to say about Cuba:
Even though you bash RJ...(bastid )

Tad Williams 'Green Angel Tower' series


Very good series, pretty unknown but well done. Doesn't get the credit it deserves. Not as good as Eddings, but good enough in its own right.


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"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 04-17-2003 11:44:05 AM
I'm an Eddings freak. You should see my bookshelves. It's virtually all one author.
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 04-17-2003 11:45:22 AM
Yeah, and I love the whole angsty vibe most of the main characters have
Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Mr. Crabs
Pancake
posted 04-17-2003 11:48:16 AM
American Gods by Neil Gaiman. Its about a two man job.
There's a King on a throne with his eyes torn out.
There's a Blind Man looking for a shadow of doubt.
There's a Rich Man sleeping on a golden bed.
There's a Skeleton choking on a crust of bread.
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 04-17-2003 11:59:06 AM
Terry Goodkind.
The sword of Truth Series.

Some people don't like it but I found all except Pillars of Creation to be good books.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 04-17-2003 11:59:29 AM
Ah, there's one series I have that's NOT by Eddings.

"Chronicles of an Age of Darkness", all by Hugh Cook.

There's ten books in the series, and they're extremely hard to get hold of, but they're possibly the best written books I've ever read. They have comedy, epic storylines, battle, and all the good stuff you'd want and hope for. The characters don't continue from book to book, each one is a self-contained storyline set in the same world. That world just happens to be far in the future.. but at the same time.. medieval, since it fell back into the realm of magic and swords.

The time they stumble onto an ancient floating "sea ship", and think the repair droids are some kind of elves, is hilarious. The group sets traps to try and catch one, and cleaning droids simply pop out and clean it away.

The series even has it's own form of the "ancient evil" that always appears in fantasy books. There's an AI complex deep in the south, past the forbidden zone and the wall of fire that the wizards created, that controls genetically-altered creatures known as the swarm.

It's a damn good series, and not cheesy in the slightest. Extremely well-written.

Azrael Heavenblade
Damn Dirty Godmoder
posted 04-17-2003 12:20:23 PM
Have too many books to list here, but Raymond E. Feist's various sagas are incredible reads, though you really need to start out at the beginning with his book, "Magician:Apprentice". Eddings as Mort mentioned is also one that you can't miss. Terry Brooks is renowned for his Shannara books, though I have yet to dig into my fucking huge Sword of Shannara Trilogy book. Roger Zelazny, if you can find his works, is another good one...R.A.Salvatore is an excellent author, and probably the creater of the (_|_) with his creation of the dark elves with indigo skin. Then, there's tons of individual books I liked, but since I'm not at my house, I can't look in our library
"The basic tool for manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them." - Philip K. Dick
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 04-17-2003 01:40:13 PM
demon kung fu girls?

Sign me up!

Ares
posted 04-17-2003 02:43:38 PM
Have you read any of Kate Foresythe's novels? She isn't that popular, and somewhat hard to find, but I like her stories. *shrugs*

Her's is more celtic fantasy about some witches, accursed winged men trying to regain the throne that's rightfully his, and evil sorceresses.

Your common fantasy novels, but I enjoyed them. The series is of 3 books, The Witches of Eilannane, The Pool of Two Moons and I forget the name of the last one... Sorry if I spelled stuff wrong. ^^;

Hostile Makeover
Evil as chocolate covered thistles
posted 04-17-2003 03:15:30 PM
Definately have to agree with the Tad Williams suggestion. I absolutely loved that trilogy, even if it did take me almost a five months to finish.

Also, Bernard Cornwell's Arthur trilogy was excellent. The Winter King, Enemy of God, and Excalibur. Flew through those in about a month, and wished there was more when I closed the last book.

Ezvien
Owes Drysart $40
posted 04-17-2003 03:16:42 PM
Redwall series by Brian Jaques.
I like them at least.
*lurk*
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Pancake
posted 04-17-2003 03:35:35 PM
I was thinking about starting George R. R. Martin's A Game of Thrones. Is this part of a series? Can anyone recommend this book?
Hireko
Kill a fish before breakfast each day
posted 04-17-2003 03:47:53 PM
quote:
Katrinity was listening to Cher while typing:
George R. R. Martin's 'Song of Fire and Ice' series

This is what I was going to say. Great series! He writes on the sort of scale Jordan does, but without getting caught up in the nitty-gritty and losing control of it. I am waiting with baited breath for the next one.

Those who dance are thought insane by those who can't hear the music.
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 04-17-2003 03:51:07 PM
Yeah, A Game of Thrones is good. Series goes so far, A Game of Thrones, A Clash of Kings, A Storm of Swords, and the next book coming out is A Feast for Crows.

Love the characters and the world in it.

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
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Pancake
posted 04-17-2003 03:52:28 PM
Whats the book about? I remember reading the back of the book but don't remember what I read lol.
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 04-17-2003 03:58:49 PM
Well, I don't know how much this will give away so I put it in spoiler code!

This is a gritty, epic fantasy.
The Starks of Winterfell are pulled into the politics of the Seven Kingdoms. It's thirteen years after a civil war deposed the Targaryen Dynasty from the Iron Throne, and after years of summer, winter is coming.
King Robert Baratheon, who was once strong in battle, is proving to be a poor ruler. Queen Cersei and her family, the Lannisters, are grabbing what power they can. Lord Jon Arryn, the Hand of the King, has died suddenly and mysteriously. Lord Eddard Stark is asked personally by his old friend King Robert to become the new Hand. Reluctantly he accepts the position and takes part of his family south to King's Landing.
Meanwhile across the sea, the head of the Old Targaryen Dynasty, Viserys, sells his sister Daenerys into marriage to Khal Drogo, a Dothraki horse lord, for armies to reconquer the Seven Kingdoms.
This book is told from multiple points of view: Lord Eddard (Ned) Stark, his wife Catelyn, and their son Bran, their daughters Sansa and Arya, Eddard's bastard son Jon Snow, Tyrion Lannister, and Daenerys.

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Rodent King
Stabbed in the Eye
posted 04-17-2003 04:02:50 PM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Delyl Caledor said:
Whats the book about? I remember reading the back of the book but don't remember what I read lol.

Kat beat me to it.

Though I don't think she managed to express just how MANY characters are in this series. It's easily the largest cast of characters I can remember reading in one series.

My inner child is bigger than my outer adult.
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Pancake
posted 04-17-2003 04:03:47 PM
I'm affraid to read the spoilers, but I still want to know what it's about.
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 04-17-2003 04:04:43 PM
Yeah, there are a ton of Major Houses each with dozens and dozens of characters, then there are commoner characters, merchants and people over the sea, the Watch that guards the Northern Wall, etc
Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 04-17-2003 04:05:32 PM
It doesn't spoil that much, just lets out some of the plot till about mid of the 1st book or so.
Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Hireko
Kill a fish before breakfast each day
posted 04-17-2003 04:06:52 PM
The most brilliant part is that there's no main character. A character could get their own chapter, then get killed off, or they could get one chapter and then vanish into obscurity.
Those who dance are thought insane by those who can't hear the music.
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 04-17-2003 04:08:47 PM
Some of my favorite still living characters are Arya Stark(the younger daughter), Jon Snow, and Daenrys.
Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Rodent King
Stabbed in the Eye
posted 04-17-2003 04:09:01 PM
It's not really Tolkien's style of writing, but a very good story nonetheless. Dive right in if you think you can remember all the names that'll come at you throughout the book.
My inner child is bigger than my outer adult.
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Pancake
posted 04-17-2003 04:10:28 PM
quote:
Rodent King enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
It's not really Tolkien's style of writing, but a very good story nonetheless. Dive right in if you think you can remember all the names that'll come at you throughout the book.

After reading the Silmarillion and keeping track of all those details, I feel like I'm ready for anything Lol.

Zair
The Imp
posted 04-17-2003 04:17:34 PM
A Song of Ice and Fire is my favorite book series, I highly recommend it


I just started reading the Dark Tower series, and that is really good too, though its not really fantasy fantasy, more like a mix of fantasyand... I dont know, kind of indescribable really..

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Pancake
posted 04-17-2003 04:18:32 PM
quote:
Zair stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
A Song of Ice and Fire is my favorite book series, I highly recommend it.

Whats it about?

Zair
The Imp
posted 04-17-2003 04:21:31 PM
quote:
Rodent King obviously shouldn't have said:
It's not really Tolkien's style of writing, but a very good story nonetheless. Dive right in if you think you can remember all the names that'll come at you throughout the book.


The names aren't really too difficult to keep straight, there is even an appendix type listing of all of the people from the different houses.

His writing style is a lot more captivating than Tolkeins (in my controversial opinion) because it doesn't suffer from the long windedness Snoota described, while still being descriptive and vived. There is a lot of action and a lot going on. The dialogue is clever, humerous, and suberb to any other fantasy I have read.

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