Not even a small one. [ 04-12-2003: Message edited by: Maradon XP ]
AthlonXP's beat Pentiums on some points, and Pentiums beat AthlonXP's on other points.
The only real difference is the heat produced. AthlonXP heat output is higher than Pentium heat output, and the Pentiums have that nifty heat spreader (and/or die protector) on top as standard. Plus the newer P4 chip is smaller.
All in all, it's pretty much the same thing, unless you happen to be a user falling in a specific niche.
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Where's Waisz? had this to say:
That's too broad of a topic. Specifically, which line of AMDs to which line of Pentiums?
The only real processors worth purchasing for a main system these days are P4's and AthlonXP's. There's no point buying Durons or (heaven forbid) Celerons, unless you're building some kind of cheap ass machine that'll just sit in a corner and crunch numbers without supervision.
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Baron Von Mortay Model 2000 was programmed to say:
The only real processors worth purchasing for a main system these days are P4's and AthlonXP's. There's no point buying Durons or (heaven forbid) Celerons, unless you're building some kind of cheap ass machine that'll just sit in a corner and crunch numbers without supervision.
Then it advances into the next line of my previous post.
Lawst, what kind of computer user are you?
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Price 595
I just want to upgrade from my old P3..Don't want to spend a lot more on my machine.
Though any recommendations for upgrade would be appreciated..with what the ncrease in price would be.
You are getting WAY ripped off.
First of all, for even casual gaming, get 256 MB of RAM. AT LEAST. 512 is even better.
Get a GeForce Video Card, at least. Hell, even an MX if you wanna go cheap, or get a low end radeon.
As it is, you'll have a hell of a time getting even OLD games to work, much less new ones. Also, go for a faster processor, even if its just an Athlon XP 1500+. for 600 bucks, you should be getting ALOT more. [ 04-12-2003: Message edited by: Falaanla Marr ]
just change whatever you want. the configuration there is better than what you posted AND cheaper AND in a cool looking case.
Ask Falaanla, ibuypower is a very reputable company. =)
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This one time, at Kegwen camp:Ask Falaanla, ibuypower is a very reputable company. =)
Very much So. Bought my new powerhouse of a machine from em. Not a single problem in the past 2 and a half months with it, and I got it for an awesome price
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Falaanla Marr had this to say about Captain Planet:
Very much So. Bought my new powerhouse of a machine from em. Not a single problem in the past 2 and a half months with it, and I got it for an awesome price
I tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 
Night dreamer 4 life!
To be perfectly clear : Building one yourself will get you the best bang for your buck, but often times it won't be as pretty, and is a lot more work, and has no warranty.
I build them myself, but I recommend buying from a company like ibuypower for those who don't have the ability to put it together -OR- are worried about parts failing and not being under warranty.
Getting a custom-built is going to be your best bet, and ibuypower really does some good work on their machines. Alienware marks up their systems too much, and places like Dell/HP/Gateway don't truly custom-build; they allow some modification of parts, but on the whole you're getting the same PC as the 5,000 other people who bought it did. Not to mention most of those parts aren't brand-new parts; 9 times out of 10, if someone RMA's a faulty part, if Gateway/Dell/Whomever tests it and it works, they slap it in a new PC. Even sometimes with RMA'ed merchandise the replacement you get was RMA'ed by someone else. Speaking as an ex-tech support rep, I've seen people RMA parts five or six times before getting one that works (IE : One that's actually a new part). [ 04-12-2003: Message edited by: Khyron ]
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I build them myself, but I recommend buying from a company like ibuypower for those who don't have the ability to put it together -OR- are worried about parts failing and not being under warranty.
Or people who want modded systems for less
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are worried about parts failing and not being under warranty.
Which is why I bought mine. I more than have the knowledge, Im just cursed when I build a system.
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This one time, at Kegwen camp:
Or people who want modded systems for less
Oh, I could build a modded system that looks just as good as the ones ibuypower offers, for less... it'd just require a hell of a lot more work, and I'm a lazy bitch 
Get the dremel, cut the fan and window holes... no problem, my father's a dentist so I have tools that can do it more cleanly than iBuyPower can (Well, I have the tools, but I have to rely on his help with them... but we can get cuts so clean it looks like the metal was shaped that way to begin with).
Painting the case, no sweat 
Installing the windows and fans, no problem.
But all three constitute a good day or two of work which I'm not willing to put into it. Building the PC itself is about as far as I want to take it [ 04-12-2003: Message edited by: Khyron ]
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There was much rejoicing when Khyron said this:
Oh, I could build a modded system that looks just as good as the ones ibuypower offers, for less... it'd just require a hell of a lot more work, and I'm a lazy bitch
And it wouldn't save you much in the long run. =)
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Kegwen obviously shouldn't have said:
And it wouldn't save you much in the long run. =)
True I'd save, not a whole lot, but I'd save
If you bought all your gear off newegg, it would probably cost $50 MORE than getting the ibuypower machine, just because they make so many.
However, on the subject of the best way to go for a budget pc:
nforce2 (or nforce if you're really low on budget) mobo w/ integrated sound/video
athlon XP 1700+
256 DDR generic ram (or name brand if you want to O/C)
lite-on burner (48x)
floppy
whatever HDD you like
generic case/psu (or a decent case/PSU if you're going to O/C)
all that should fit under $425, if you shop around.
No, Really. Bite me.
