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If people have an orphaned card like a Voodoo, then upgrade to DirectX 9, and EverQuest breaks, there's unfortunately not a thing that anyone will be able to do about it, as there aren't even official drivers for it anymore.
So, they rousted out Win 95 lamers, now they're finally getting rid of Voodoo cheapasses. 
Woot. 
It's "not possible" when they put in a windowed mode, but I've been doing it for over a year now with EQW(which, of course, they broke with the patch). 
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Skaw was naked while typing this:
It's called "don't fucking upgrade Direct X if your card isn't even supported by a modern game." It's common logic.
Also, there's the "Stop using Windows 95 or a shitty voodoo card when cards/OSes that are 10x better are under 100 bucks" argument.
ben(at)netmastering(dot)nl
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Delphi Aegis had this to say about Robocop:
Also, there's the "Stop using Windows 95 or a shitty voodoo card when cards/OSes that are 10x better are under 100 bucks" argument.
What about the "My computer can't handle it, so either I spend $80,000 on a total overhaul or $3000 on a new computer, but I don't have that kind of money" argument?
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Ruvyen?'s unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
What about the "My computer can't handle it, so either I spend $80,000 on a total overhaul or $3000 on a new computer, but I don't have that kind of money" argument?
The "Get a job" argument.
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Delphi Aegis stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Also, there's the "Stop using Windows 95 or a shitty voodoo card when cards/OSes that are 10x better are under 100 bucks" argument.
Must be nice to have a job and no debt.
Unfortunately, some of us have things we are obligated to spend money on, that isn't for our personal enjoyment.
The only reason I have a geforce 2 instead of a voodoo3 right now is because I have a very generous friend.
Times change, technology moves forward. If the games I want to play get too far ahead, then fine, i guess I don't play them.
That's no excuse for dissing people that can't keep up with technology. They have their reasons.
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Densetsu wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Must be nice to have a job and no debt.Unfortunately, some of us have things we are obligated to spend money on, that isn't for our personal enjoyment.
The only reason I have a geforce 2 instead of a voodoo3 right now is because I have a very generous friend.
Times change, technology moves forward. If the games I want to play get too far ahead, then fine, i guess I don't play them.
That's no excuse for dissing people that can't keep up with technology. They have their reasons.
Umm exactly. You dont' play them.
That is life. People don't get things just cause they want it. If they can't afford to upgrade.... *shrugs*
You can still get a GF2 for a very affordable price. I had to save all through the GF3 era just to buy a GF4 Ti4200, but even that was affordable on a budget.
Check your college book store too. Some have deals with Microsoft to get reduced prices on Windows.
Ferrel!
I mean, if you want to play games you have to keep upgrading. Eventually what you have WILL get outdated if you don't keep upgrading. Kind of like consoles. The NES only got outdated by the SNES, which got outdated by the N64 and PSX, who got outdated by the PS2 Xbox and NGC. If you can't upgrade your hardware you don't get to play the new cool software. Sorry, that's the life of a gamer.
That isn't right.
If EQ doesn't work after this patch because I still use like... on-board graphics (whatever that is) I'm gonna be sad.
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Should've said something, but I've said it enough
By the way my words were faded
Rather waste some time with you...
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Savannah wrote:
on-board graphics
I'm weeping blood.
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We were all impressed when Densetsu wrote:
The point is that Delphi called people lamers and cheapasses just because they don't keep up with technology like he does.That isn't right.
Eh, I phrased wrong.
I was dissatisfied with the fact that people still use said OSes and cards, yet expect the entire game to cater to them (Remember when they said you need Dx8 to play, which 95 can't support, and the massive bitching that caused? Yeah.).
You want to play the game, that's great. You don't want to upgrade your computer, because of lack of a job, or whatever, okay. But don't expect me to bend over backwards and cry a river out of my anus feeling sorry for you.
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Vorago had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Anyone else seeing this thread going downhill rapidly? I know I do
I don't wanna fall down and break my crown. 
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Check out the big brain on Terena Azal!
There is no love in this thread.
That's not what you said last night!
Runs off crying.
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Delphi Aegis Model 2000 was programmed to say:
That's not what you said last night!Runs off crying.
There was no love in that bed.
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Terena Azal wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
There was no love in that bed.
That's not what you were screaming..
This should sooo stop.
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Savannah wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Then there's the 'omg I don't know anything about a computer -- all I know is that my GAME DOESN'T FUCKING RUN RIGHT ANYMORE' arguement.If EQ doesn't work after this patch because I still use like... on-board graphics (whatever that is) I'm gonna be sad.
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DirectX 9 only has like, 3 card-types that support it fully anyway. The fact is, if you don't know shit about a computer, don't fucking do anything your software doesn't suggest.
It reduces problems and you don't make a total fool out of yourself when you run into a problem doing something you shouldn't have done because you don't know how to do it.
Onboard video is a videocard chipset on the motherboard, its generally subpar compared to their AGPport sister cards.
"Damn, I need to upgrade my computer to play EQ2"
it's more like
"Damn, suddenly the computer I have been playing this game with for the past couple years is suddenly not good enough even though it is still the same game"
I mean, the first one I can understand, but yeah, the 2nd one is pretty stupid
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Nobody really understood why Vorago wrote:
it's more like"Damn, suddenly the computer I have been playing this game with for the past couple years is suddenly not good enough even though it is still the same game"
I mean, the first one I can understand, but yeah, the 2nd one is pretty stupid
Which means people will actually have a reason to bitch, now.
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Densetsu had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
And that's what the main arguement was the last time. Except then, it made SENSE that they did it, because they were releasing an expansion with an entirely new graphics engine. But now, all they are doing is upgrading DX, but not actually CHANGING the game.Which means people will actually have a reason to bitch, now.
Boy, won't you look stupid if the change to DX9 makes all the crappy frame rates go away. [ 01-09-2003: Message edited by: JooJooFlop ]
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Densetsu attempted to be funny by writing:
And that's what the main arguement was the last time. Except then, it made SENSE that they did it, because they were releasing an expansion with an entirely new graphics engine. But now, all they are doing is upgrading DX, but not actually CHANGING the game.Which means people will actually have a reason to bitch, now.
Actually, they haven't done anything but test all cards officially supported by SoE (The radeon/GeForce series) as well as processers and OSes (98, ME, 2k, XP, I believe).
Odds are that Dx9 came out and people asked SoE techsupport if they should upgrade for EQ. They thought this was a good question, and decided to do some testing.
So far everything works great, no random crashes, etc. I won't personally upgrade, since I'd have to reinstall video and sound drivers.. again, but I found it nice to see that they are taking a stance against people with not a good enough computer.
And I see ABSOLUTELY no reason for anyone to bitch about them upgrading the engine. On every box (Even the old Jewelcase for classic EQ) there is a little thing that says "System requirements subject to change". If you don't want them to change, well tough luck.
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JooJooFlop had this to say about Pirotess:
Boy, won't you look stupid if the change to DX9 makes all the crappy frame rates go away.
Not really. I'm just taking the stance of these people. My computer, though it is out of date, still meets EQ's system requirements, even with DX9. I hardly play as it is.
EQ is and continues to be a modern game, as it's perpetually in development.
Frankly you're lucky EQ worked on your crusty old OS and your outdated hardware for so long. [ 01-09-2003: Message edited by: Maradon XP ]
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Maradon XP's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
Yesterday's hardware is largely restricted to yesterday's games. You don't buy an N64 and then complain that it doesn't run Gamecube games.EQ is and continues to be a modern game, as it's perpetually in development.
Frankly you're lucky EQ worked on your crusty old OS and your outdated hardware for so long.
I love how on the jewelcase for classic EQ it still has the original original system req's.
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There was much rejoicing when Delphi Aegis said this:
I love how on the jewelcase for classic EQ it still has the original original system req's.
Those are still accurate, the unpatched tutorial runs fine on those requirements.
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Delphi Aegis had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
I love how on the jewelcase for classic EQ it still has the original original system req's.
The original EQ's system requirements called for a "DirectX compatible video card".
DirectX is constantly changing. If your video card does not support DX9, then your video card is no longer a "DirectX compatible video card" and therefore no longer meets EQ's minimum system requirements.
Ferrel!
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Ferrel wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
GF4 Ti4200's are DX9 compatable aren't they?
Everything that they still make drivers for will be, yes.
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Ferrel wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
GF4 Ti4200's are DX9 compatable aren't they?
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This one time, at Skaw camp:
http://eqlive.station.sony.com/community/dev_view.jsp?id=53572
Is it just me, or is anyone else getting a blank page for that (Formatted, but no news)
Ferrel!
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Delphi Aegis probably says this to all the girls:
Is it just me, or is anyone else getting a blank page for that (Formatted, but no news)
Werks fine fo mesa.
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Terena Azal had this to say about Cuba:
There was no love in that bed.
You said you would only fuck those that you loved! Then you go and give it out to Delphi with no love?!
You slut, I thought your family were the only other ones you'd ever fuck!
