Hardly illegal, but still theft I suppose.

[ 01-06-2003: Message edited by: JooJooFlop ]

If a website tries to dick me over with spyware, I have absolutely no qualms dicking them right back.

i have one of my additioinal mouse buttons set to alt+F4, and anytime i get any pop up window that i was not anticipating, it dies, normally before the content gets downloaded.

Am i a theif because i don't look at the ads? Using a popup blocker is exactly the same, it's people deciding that they never want to see the popups, and automating the process. I fail to see a difference between a user using a popup blocker and myself.

To me, it simply looks as if there is a website that is helping other websites combat pop-up blockers, and THEY are labelling pop-up blocking as 'theft' to increase sales and/or popularity of their service.

Someone please point me to where pop-up blocking was MADE illegal, not just CONSIDERED so by ONE website.

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Densetsu stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
I fail to see illegality in this 'article' (And I use the term loosely).

To me, it simply looks as if there is a website that is helping other websites combat pop-up blockers, and THEY are labelling pop-up blocking as 'theft' to increase sales and/or popularity of their service.

Someone please point me to where pop-up blocking was MADE illegal, not just CONSIDERED so by ONE website.

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google turned up empty.

slashdot has the habit of warping peoples words, jumping to conclusions, or not listening to all the facts. most articles are posted either to get a reaction or because they already coinside with the views of the author. I would not trust slashdot if it told me the sky were blue.

I hate fucking pop-up windows, especially when they spawn MORE pop-up windows and then give a last dying effort when you close them by giving you another five!

AAARG Bastards, stopping ruining my porn surfing!

That said, when I instantly close (or even *gasp* block) a popup, I am failing to recognize that the company in question has elected to debase itself. I am thence incapable of boycotting thier products, continue to buy them, and put more money into advertisers pockets.

So in a sense, running a pop-up blocker is like giving a donation to all the sites you visit.

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diadem wrote this stupid crap:
slashdot has the habit of warping peoples words, jumping to conclusions, or not listening to all the facts. most articles are posted either to get a reaction or because they already coinside with the views of the author. I would not trust slashdot if it told me the sky were blue.

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they linked to the original article, and I'd say thier assessment was fairly accurate.

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Vorago said this about your mom:
I wonder how long till they make it illegal to ignore a billboard or magazine ad

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Never.

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Nobody really understood why Maradon XP wrote:
they linked to the original article, and I'd say thier assessment was fairly accurate.

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are we looking at a diffrent article? all i see is a link to software that prevents popup blockers. of course they are gonna call it theft, it's marketing.

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So quoth JooJooFlop:
Never.

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Well obviously

Really.

Cause like.. if you block the popups, they don't load at all, right?

... I'm all confused.

#2. Because the idea is you view the ads in exchange for viewing the website. By blocking the ads, you are viewing the site without paying the entrence fee-so to speak.

Do you ever visit a site and first see a page that says, "Hello, welcome to my website. You will be bombarded with pop-up after pop-up while browsing my site. Don't even try closing them, that'll just spawn more pop-ups. By continuing, you agree that my pop-ups can do whatever I want them to do to your machine, including installing spy-ware, viruses, and making your browsing experience a living hell."?

Didn't think so.

Going to a website without PRIOR knowledge of pop-ups, does not constitute 'theft' on my part if I choose to block them, in my opinion.

If there was a pop-up disclaimer on every website, then maybe you could argue that you were warned, and by continuing into the website, you agreed to accept the pop-ups.

Until that happens, I don't think websites that use pop-ups have much of a case.

Thier arguements are faulty, they need to be dropped into a pit.

Why, thank you. I like the quiet-serenity-hopefullness vibe. ^_^

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Densetsu had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
I boobs.

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I was more or less trying to state their point of view, not defend it. I agree with you that the spywear aspect of popups is shit. Webmasters however, would like to get paid for their work- and most likely don't apreciate the de-valuing effect of popup and cookie blockers on their income when their click though rating goes from .001% to .00000005%

However, the idea that someone's coming into your store or whatever and stealing money from you by not looking at the ads is only a half truth. In reality it's like you coming into a store, having some third-party schmuck you don't even know rifle through your pockets and staple a tracking device to your ass, and you having to pay the store for that service.

Site wants to block people with blockers, they're only shooting themselves in the foot for doing business with nosy-ass ad companies.

I see your shitty ad which I really have no interest in seeing anyway, the site gets their money, I get my information. Everyone wins.

What I find even more annoying than popup ads, are ads with sound thats so fucking badly recorded, their volumes are recorded so high that I have to turn down the volume on my already notsoloud speakers.

[ 01-06-2003: Message edited by: Skaw ]

The tasteful, albeit intrusive ones run by Nike and Hooters and Intel don't even bother me. I'll even watch them sometimes without closing them.

I watch them because they're just a touch entertaining and not so goddamn obnoxious, more like TV commercials.