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Topic: How do I get rid of this on IE6.0?
Oh shi...
what
posted 12-04-2002 10:46:56 PM
Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 12-04-2002 10:49:07 PM
You uninstall GameSpot's shitty download assistant spyware thing.
"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
Oh shi...
what
posted 12-04-2002 11:01:26 PM
I did...it is still there
»Waisztarroz«
Pancake
posted 12-04-2002 11:01:48 PM
That's pretty damn funny.
I <3 Steel Battalion!
Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 12-04-2002 11:03:35 PM
You're fucked.
"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
`Doc
Cold in an Alley
posted 12-05-2002 09:14:02 AM
Uninstall and reinstall IE6. That is presuming that a previous version of IE was on the machine when you bought it, and that you upgraded to IE6.

Start => Settings => Control Panel => Add/Remove Programs => Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 => Change/Remove.

You can then use Windows Update to reinstall.

[ 12-05-2002: Message edited by: Ford Prefect ]

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adenine!
Closet Republican
posted 12-05-2002 06:35:48 PM
You stop using the utter crap that is IE and switch to a real browser.
Suddar
posted 12-05-2002 06:38:29 PM
I like my internet browsers to work, thank you sir!
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 12-05-2002 06:39:08 PM
quote:
adenine! had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
You stop using the utter crap that is IE and switch to a real browser.

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Thanks Adenine, I needed a good laugh today

I'd sooner download Opera and beat myself in the forehead with my keyboard, than go with Nutscrape or Mozilla.

[ 12-05-2002: Message edited by: Khyron ]

adenine!
Closet Republican
posted 12-05-2002 06:40:46 PM
quote:
Khyron had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
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Thanks Adenine, I needed a good laugh today


IE is crap. There is not a single thing that it does better than Mozilla or Phoenix.

Suddar
posted 12-05-2002 06:41:41 PM
Besides...work?
adenine!
Closet Republican
posted 12-05-2002 06:44:01 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Suddar was all like:
Besides...work?

You have to be joking. This isn't meant to be personally offensive, but I was just waiting for the stupid replies to come rolling in and they started quite soon.

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 12-05-2002 06:45:55 PM
quote:
adenine! stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
IE is crap. There is not a single thing that it does better than Mozilla or Phoenix.

Except of course the fact that it loads up faster and takes up less memory than either one.

And speaking as someone who troubleshoots browsers for a living, one TENTH as many people have problems getting IE running as they do with Netscape/Mozilla/Opera.

Which is odd because ten times more people run IE than the rest. I wonder what that tells you about those browsers...

Suddar
posted 12-05-2002 06:46:43 PM
I'm sorry, I actually only posted because I like provoking fanboys and "power-users" and listening to their logic about "the man" and how much he sucks, and how much the little guy so totally kicks his ass. Go Linux! Penguins 4 Life! I Suse! Yay! Of course, I can't actually do anything but I do it 200% better! Woo doggy!

Whatever.

Rabidbunnylover
Pancake
posted 12-05-2002 06:50:05 PM
quote:
Except of course the fact that it loads up faster and takes up less memory than either one.


So Windows loads up faster than Mozilla? because a lot of IE is loaded with Windows.

quote:

And speaking as someone who troubleshoots browsers for a living, one TENTH as many people have problems getting IE running as they do with Netscape/Mozilla/Opera.


Don't blame the browser for standards ignorant web designers.

quote:

Which is odd because ten times more people run IE than the rest. I wonder what that tells you about those browsers...

It tells me that Microsoft is happily exploiting its near monopoly on home desktops OSes and that people are lazy.

[ 12-05-2002: Message edited by: Rabidbunnylover'nix ]

Merp
adenine!
Closet Republican
posted 12-05-2002 06:50:46 PM
quote:
Khyron wrote this stupid crap:
Except of course the fact that it loads up faster and takes up less memory than either one.

And speaking as someone who troubleshoots browsers for a living, one TENTH as many people have problems getting IE running as they do with Netscape/Mozilla/Opera.

Which is odd because ten times more people run IE than the rest. I wonder what that tells you about those browsers...


I'll admit it, you got me on one. IE does take up less memory. However, it is NO faster than Mozilla, and Phoenix is definitely faster at everything. More people run IE because it's included with Windows and most people think IE is better simply because they have either never used Mozilla/Phoenix at all, or they haven't used it in years and are therefore ignorant to how good they've become. There are far more people using Windows than OS X too. There are far more people using VHS than Betamax. I could go on and on. No, people are never ignorant, how could that be?

adenine!
Closet Republican
posted 12-05-2002 06:51:55 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Rabidbunnylover'nix wrote:

So Windows loads up faster than Mozilla? because a lot of IE is loaded with Windows.

This is another great point; if Mozilla was integrated with Windows it would take up a whole lot less memory too.

adenine!
Closet Republican
posted 12-05-2002 06:54:55 PM
Nina
posted 12-05-2002 06:55:33 PM
"Hmmm. Déjà vu."
adenine!
Closet Republican
posted 12-05-2002 06:58:33 PM
quote:
Tier obviously shouldn't have said:
"Hmmm. Déjà vu."

Really? There was a browser war and I missed it?

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 12-05-2002 06:59:20 PM
quote:
So quoth Rabidbunnylover'nix:
So Windows loads up faster than Mozilla? because a lot of IE is loaded with Windows.

Is that a bad thing? Taking advantage of components that are already loaded into memory because they were loaded into the OS?

I'm failing to see why this makes IE crap. It's called optimisation. If you refuse to use IE and end up using a browser that doesn't take advantage of what windows already has in place, you're only gimping yourself.

quote:
It tells me that Microsoft is happily exploiting its near monopoly on home desktops OSes and that people are lazy.

The fact that people choose to use what works and works well doesn't show me that people are lazy. Fact is we get plenty of callers who call in saying they use Netscape because they dislike Microsoft. Guess what? They're the same people that tend to have problem after problem after problem. Guess those people who are lazy ended up being the smart ones after all; we don't get nearly as many browser problems with IE as we do with Netscape or Opera.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 12-05-2002 07:06:13 PM
quote:
adenine! said:
There are far more people using VHS than Betamax.

Betamax was superior to VHS in almost all respects.

VHS was cheaper, unfortunately for Betamax, which is now dead.

adenine!
Closet Republican
posted 12-05-2002 07:06:44 PM
quote:
Khyron had this to say about John Romero:
The fact that people choose to use what works and works well doesn't show me that people are lazy. Fact is we get plenty of callers who call in saying they use Netscape because they dislike Microsoft. Guess what? They're the same people that tend to have problem after problem after problem. Guess those people who are lazy ended up being the smart ones after all; we don't get nearly as many browser problems with IE as we do with Netscape or Opera.

IE wouldn't work better than the newest versions of Netscape/Mozilla/Phoenix if web developers would adhere to actual standards instead of proprietary Microsoft web design. "The newest versions of Netscape" is a key phrase because I fully agree that all previous versions of Netscape are crap as well. You have to remember that most Netscape users are very likely to be stuck with an old version. However there's no reason to use Netscape at all because it's now just a commercialized version of Mozilla sans popup-blocking. I don't know much about Opera except that it isn't free as in freedom or beer and it isn't really standards compliant either, so it's no better than IE IMNSHO.

Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 12-05-2002 07:11:27 PM
quote:
adenine! had this to say about Duck Tales:
IE IMNSHO.

My brain fucking exploded.

"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
adenine!
Closet Republican
posted 12-05-2002 07:11:48 PM
quote:
Baron Von Mortay stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Betamax was superior to VHS in almost all respects.

VHS was cheaper, unfortunately for Betamax, which is now dead.


And it's not even a very good analogy because IE is no cheaper than good browsers, and there is hardly a difference between the amount of content available. Hell, even Microsoft sites work flawlessly in Phoenix. I haven't seen a site in quite a while that didn't work at all, and non-standard-compliant sites are being converted all the time.

Oh yeah, and Betamax isn't completely dead yet, it's still used in TV broadcasting, although cheap recordable DVDs and HDTV should kill it for good.

[ 12-05-2002: Message edited by: adenine! ]

Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 12-05-2002 07:12:44 PM
I'm liking Phoenix, but I can't middle-click to get a scroll button thing like in IE.

Is there anything I can do about this?

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 12-05-2002 07:13:38 PM
quote:
A sleep deprived adenine! stammered:
http://www.xulplanet.com/ndeakin/arts/reasons.html

Some of those reasons are utterly and completely laughable; most are functions most users could barely understand, let alone figure out how to use. Let's take a look at a few :

  • Supports any Sherlock search plugin
    Sounds wonderful. Tell me when on earth I'd ever want to use Sherlock Search plugins.

  • Type Ahead Find
    Press a few keys to search for links with that text. And this differs from normal find because...?

  • Easily installed
    Can be installed quickly and without much fuss. It can generally be run off a network or CD as well. If IE were hard to install over half of the customers I talk to wouldn't have a browser right now.

  • XUL
    The XML User Interface Language is used to create complex user interfaces using markup
  • XBL
    The eXtensible Bindings Language is used to create custom widgets or elements and bind them to other XUL, XML or HTML elements.
  • RDF
    Mozilla can read and manipulate Resource Description Framework files.
  • MathML
    MathML is a markup language for displaying math equations.
  • XPCOM
    Native interface accessible via C++ or JavaScript which lets you perform various Mozilla functions.

    Now tell me how the average user could even begin to make sense out of any of that.

  • Properly handles MIME types
    Properly displays content using the content type supplied by the server instead of various other incorrect things. If you're going to claim this as something IE can't, I'd like to see exactly what 'other incorrect things' IE displays in its place.

    Now, yes, Mozilla has some nice features, but I honestly dislike it because it takes up more memory when browsing, and when I ran it myself it took longer to load up pages (Especially with heavy java, XML, and other heavy effects) than IE does. I've had more people calling up complaining about corruption and bugs in the program than we ever encounter in IE, which tells me about how bad its stability is.

  • adenine!
    Closet Republican
    posted 12-05-2002 07:15:54 PM
    quote:
    Vorbo Goatboy had this to say about (_|_):
    I'm liking Phoenix, but I can't middle-click to get a scroll button thing like in IE.

    Is there anything I can do about this?


    Well, because it's open source, you can download the source and edit it yourself. But if that's not an option (and I certainly don't expect it to be), I don't think you can get it. It did actually bother me for a bit before I fully converted it but I haven't even thought about it in months. You could always suggest that it be added as an option but I wouldn't count on it being integrated any time soon.

    Khyron
    Hello, my mushy friend...
    posted 12-05-2002 07:18:33 PM
    quote:
    adenine! stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
    I don't know much about Opera except that it isn't free as in freedom or beer and it isn't really standards compliant either, so it's no better than IE IMNSHO.

    Opera is quite free, actually. If it wasn't we wouldn't encounter it at all. Mozilla is, essentially, just netscape plus a few more advanced featurse that hardly anyone uses. Phoenix, as I've said, I've never even heard of before right now; none of my customers have ever called in with it, of that I'm sure.

    I have no clue what you meant by 'free as in freedom or beer'.

    The reason that web developers go by proprietary Microsoft web design is the same reason why people just go with IE : It's easier. Offer people an easier alternative and they'll take it, it's just human nature. To complain because people take the easy way is pretty pointless; almost everyone does it at one point or another.

    adenine!
    Closet Republican
    posted 12-05-2002 07:23:17 PM
    quote:
    Khyron had this to say about Knight Rider:
    Some of those reasons are utterly and completely laughable; most are functions most users could barely understand, let alone figure out how to use. Let's take a look at a few :

  • Supports any Sherlock search plugin
    Sounds wonderful. Tell me when on earth I'd ever want to use Sherlock Search plugins.

  • Any time you want search for something, perhaps?

  • Type Ahead Find
    Press a few keys to search for links with that text. And this differs from normal find because...?

  • Easily installed
    Can be installed quickly and without much fuss. It can generally be run off a network or CD as well. If IE were hard to install over half of the customers I talk to wouldn't have a browser right now.

  • It's pretty hard to install on Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris.

  • XUL
    The XML User Interface Language is used to create complex user interfaces using markup
  • XBL
    The eXtensible Bindings Language is used to create custom widgets or elements and bind them to other XUL, XML or HTML elements.
  • RDF
    Mozilla can read and manipulate Resource Description Framework files.
  • MathML
    MathML is a markup language for displaying math equations.
  • XPCOM
    Native interface accessible via C++ or JavaScript which lets you perform various Mozilla functions.

    Now tell me how the average user could even begin to make sense out of any of that.

  • Properly handles MIME types
    Properly displays content using the content type supplied by the server instead of various other incorrect things. If you're going to claim this as something IE can't, I'd like to see exactly what 'other incorrect things' IE displays in its place.

    Now, yes, Mozilla has some nice features, but I honestly dislike it because it takes up more memory when browsing, and when I ran it myself it took longer to load up pages (Especially with heavy java, XML, and other heavy effects) than IE does. I've had more people calling up complaining about corruption and bugs in the program than we ever encounter in IE, which tells me about how bad its stability is.


  • Memory is cheap; I don't see anyone complaining about EQ being the biggest memory hog ever. What's the difference if 10-20 of the 101 reasons aren't understandable by everyone? They ultimately can result in benefits for the most average of users. Like I've said numerous times, how many of these people who call in complaining are using the latest version of Mozilla or Phoenix? I'm willing to bet it's less than 5 ever, because most of the people using them would never call tech support for anything. The people who still think Mozilla is buggy obviously haven't used it in months or years if ever.

    edit: don't miss the two comments I added to the quote!

    [ 12-05-2002: Message edited by: adenine! ]

    adenine!
    Closet Republican
    posted 12-05-2002 07:29:18 PM
    quote:
    How.... Khyron.... uughhhhhh:
    Opera is quite free, actually. If it wasn't we wouldn't encounter it at all. Mozilla is, essentially, just netscape plus a few more advanced featurse that hardly anyone uses. Phoenix, as I've said, I've never even heard of before right now; none of my customers have ever called in with it, of that I'm sure.

    Last time I checked the free version of Opera had advertising; perhaps that has changed, but in any case, there's still a non-free version of Opera. You didn't need to tell me you've never heard of Phoenix, I could have easily guessed that. Mozilla is most definitely not Netscape plus anything; maybe two years ago that was true.

    quote:

    I have no clue what you meant by 'free as in freedom or beer'.

    The reason that web developers go by proprietary Microsoft web design is the same reason why people just go with IE : It's easier. Offer people an easier alternative and they'll take it, it's just human nature. To complain because people take the easy way is pretty pointless; almost everyone does it at one point or another.


    You obviously haven't done both proprietary IE web design and standard design. Until you do both, you are not allowed to say that one is easier than the other. (edit: perhaps that was a bit exaggerated, let me change that to "until you at least know the difference between [them].")

    [ 12-05-2002: Message edited by: adenine! ]

    Azizza
    VANDERSHANKED
    posted 12-05-2002 07:34:58 PM
    I can't wait for Drysart to see this
    "Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
    adenine!
    Closet Republican
    posted 12-05-2002 07:36:48 PM
    quote:
    Azizza had this to say about the Spice Girls:
    I can't wait for Drysart to see this

    Hopefully he's had a browser epiphany in the last few months.

    edit: because it's true, when Drysart had a complete, non-standards-compliant web site, IE was superior to everything else.

    [ 12-05-2002: Message edited by: adenine! ]

    Azizza
    VANDERSHANKED
    posted 12-05-2002 07:42:58 PM
    Nah he knows which browser is far better. IE!!
    "Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
    JooJooFlop
    Hungry Hungry Hippo
    posted 12-05-2002 07:43:01 PM
    That reminds me, do non-IE users still see a bouncy Delid head in the upper-left hand corner of the boards?
    I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
    adenine!
    Closet Republican
    posted 12-05-2002 07:44:01 PM
    quote:
    Azizza's account was hax0red to write:
    Nah he knows which browser is far better. IE!!

    Did you even read this thread?

    quote:
    This insanity brought to you by JooJooFlop:
    That reminds me, do non-IE users still see a bouncy Delid head in the upper-left hand corner of the boards?

    Nope.

    Rabidbunnylover
    Pancake
    posted 12-05-2002 07:54:28 PM
    quote:

    Did you even read this thread?


    He's a troll, ignore him.

    [ 12-05-2002: Message edited by: Rabidbunnylover'nix ]

    Merp
    Mortious
    Gluttonous Overlard
    posted 12-05-2002 07:59:30 PM
    Battle of the Nerds!

    Steven Steve
    posted 12-05-2002 08:04:05 PM
    I like IE because I hate you

    It doesn't seem logical at first, but then it will click

    "Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
    - Grawbad, Battle.net forums

    "Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
    - Silvast, Battle.net forums

    Alaan
    posted 12-05-2002 08:15:17 PM
    quote:
    adenine! stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
    Mozilla is most definitely not Netscape plus anything

    Actually... I just saw a guy from Netscape yesterday, who is part of the Mozilla team, saying it is basically Netscape with some various changes...

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