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Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 12-03-2002 04:06:09 PM
Now that EQ has the MP3 player, I want to use it. I have several CDs of music that would make great EQ music.

The problem is, all I have is Windows Media Player. I didn't realize it till now, but it appears to be unable to make MP3s from my CDs. Clicking on the MP3 Information button just gives me links to places that sell MP3 plug-ins for WMP, but I'm a cheap bastard. I don't want to have to pay for anything if I can avoid it.

Anyone out there have any useful advice on this subject that they wish to share?

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 12-03-2002 04:09:16 PM
Blaze Media Pro works well for its demo time, Audiograbber can be annoying, but I use it for when I only need a few songs, and for playing around with sounds at all, I use Goldwave.

[edit: Actually, I cant remember if BMP can rip at all ]

[ 12-03-2002: Message edited by: Tegadil ]

Suddar
posted 12-03-2002 04:11:03 PM
I do believe there's a pretty decent plugin for Winamp that can rip CDs, as can Creative's Playcenter2, which does so beautifully (but I think you need a soundblaster Live card, or at least a pci512). There's also CDex, available through www.download.com which is 100% free as well.

If all else fails, download Musicmatch or something similiar and rip it before the free trial runs out.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 12-03-2002 04:13:58 PM
As Mr. Duck will inevitably say, and provide links for:

Exact Audio Copy and Lame are ALL YOU EVER NEED For mp3 ripping needs.

Trust me on this one. It perfectly copied the entirety of the warcraft3 soundtrack in less then half an hour.

Go out and download it.. like, now... or as soon as Mr. Duck shows up.

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 12-03-2002 04:16:06 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
As Mr. Duck will inevitably say, and provide links for:

Exact Audio Copy and Lame are ALL YOU EVER NEED For mp3 ripping needs.

Trust me on this one. It perfectly copied the entirety of the warcraft3 soundtrack in less then half an hour.

Go out and download it.. like, now... or as soon as Mr. Duck shows up.



YOU could always link it, you know.
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piƱa coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Callalron
Hires people with hooks
posted 12-03-2002 04:19:11 PM
Nah, nah, nah just download a copy of Music Match Jukebox. It does it all. Rips, plays, burns CDs, even downloads to your MP3 device, and it's easy to use too. The free version should handle all your needs, but if you go the upgrade route, one payment gets you upgrades for life. I've been using it for several years and never had a complaint about it.


/edit corrected url

[ 12-03-2002: Message edited by: Callalron ]

Callalron
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Suddar
posted 12-03-2002 04:19:23 PM
Also, I was never a fan of LAME.

It gave my mp3s this awful backnoise that was horribly obnoxious and really distracting.

Mr. Duck
Likes to ____!
posted 12-03-2002 04:44:09 PM
quote:
Densetsu wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
YOU could always link it, you know.

Exact Audio Copy

LAME mp3 encoder

How to setup EAC

[ 12-03-2002: Message edited by: Mr. Duck ]

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 12-03-2002 04:50:17 PM
CDex is good for just general ripping. I like Audiostation, though. It can rip and play, plus Deth has said something about the format it uses taking up less space than mp3s. Don't have it in front of me, but it's not mp3 format. Bet Deth can tell you what the extension is.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Mr. Duck
Likes to ____!
posted 12-03-2002 04:51:26 PM
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael thought about the meaning of life:
CDex is good for just general ripping. I like Audiostation, though. It can rip and play, plus Deth has said something about the format it uses taking up less space than mp3s. Don't have it in front of me, but it's not mp3 format. Bet Deth can tell you what the extension is.

.ogg?

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 12-03-2002 04:55:36 PM
No, I know it wasn't that format.

Can check when I get home, or have Deth check when he gets online. I've sent him songs in IRC before, and he remarked that they're not nearly as large of files as an mp3.

Behave just like a regular one, though. It really saves space on my laptop's hard drive.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

adenine!
Closet Republican
posted 12-03-2002 05:26:44 PM
CDex + Ogg Vorbis =
Burger
BANNED!
posted 12-03-2002 06:04:44 PM
I'd suggest using Exact Audio Copy to get the information off the CD, and into .WAV format, and then LAME and RazorLame toconvert the .WAV to a .MP3. Lame is a command line encoder, and RazorLame is a GUI interface that makes it easier to use LAME.
Bite me.

No, Really. Bite me.

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 12-03-2002 06:17:52 PM
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael spewed forth this undeniable truth:
CDex is good for just general ripping. I like Audiostation, though. It can rip and play, plus Deth has said something about the format it uses taking up less space than mp3s. Don't have it in front of me, but it's not mp3 format. Bet Deth can tell you what the extension is.

The whole point here is to get them to MP3 format, so that I can play them in EQ.

I downloaded Musicmatch Jukebox. It's doing the job well enough, but I had to disable alot of stuff to keep it from reporting in to their website every time I turn it on.

Thanks all.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 12-03-2002 08:00:44 PM
You can play them in EQ. That's the whole point

I've played them in both WinAmp and Sonique.

[ 12-03-2002: Message edited by: Lyinar Ka`Bael ]


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 12-03-2002 08:08:40 PM
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael probably says this to all the girls:
You can play them in EQ. That's the whole point

I've played them in both WinAmp and Sonique.


Yes, but I wanted something that worked with EQ's new MP3 player. I don't use EQWindows, and I want to be able to directly control it from within EQ.

Not to mention, it kills the normal EQ music while playing, but the sounds still come through. Now, I can put on some good fighting music without missing any sounds.

EDIT: thanks for the advice though.

[ 12-03-2002: Message edited by: Palador ChibiDragon ]

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 12-03-2002 08:13:35 PM
quote:
adenine! had this to say about Duck Tales:
CDex + Ogg Vorbis =

What exactly is the act of "Ogg" and why do people insist on doing it to me?

Burger
BANNED!
posted 12-03-2002 08:15:44 PM
Lyniar, are you referrig to a VBR MP3? It's a song encoded in MP# format, but instead of the entire song being at 128, or 192 Kbps, the complicated bits are at 192 (or 256) kbps, and the silent parts, pauses and less complicated bits are encoded at extremely low bitrates. This gives higher quality and lower file sizes...

If you want to encode using Variable BitRate, i'd suggest using EAC, and LAME, because lame will allow you to set how you want the VBR to behave, and it's dead sexy...

Bite me.

No, Really. Bite me.

Skaw
posted 12-03-2002 08:16:55 PM
quote:
There was much rejoicing when Delphi Aegis said this:
As Mr. Duck will inevitably say, and provide links for:

Exact Audio Copy and Lame are ALL YOU EVER NEED For mp3 ripping needs.

Trust me on this one. It perfectly copied the entirety of the warcraft3 soundtrack in less then half an hour.

Go out and download it.. like, now... or as soon as Mr. Duck shows up.


Must've sucked wasting all that time when it's all in MP3 format in the Sound Editor

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 12-03-2002 08:20:37 PM
quote:
From the book of Skaw, chapter 3, verse 16:
Must've sucked wasting all that time when it's all in MP3 format in the Sound Editor

I'm not used to messing with MP3s and such. Explain please.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 12-03-2002 08:24:32 PM
quote:
Callalron enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
Nah, nah, nah just download a copy of Music Match Jukebox. It does it all. Rips, plays, burns CDs, even downloads to your MP3 device, and it's easy to use too. The free version should handle all your needs, but if you go the upgrade route, one payment gets you upgrades for life. I've been using it for several years and never had a complaint about it.


/edit corrected url


This is what I use, paid for it, it's worth it.

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The stars my destination
Burger
BANNED!
posted 12-03-2002 08:26:31 PM
quote:
A sleep deprived Palador ChibiDragon stammered:

I'm not used to messing with MP3s and such. Explain please.


the warcraft 3 soundtrack is already ripped to mp3 in the warcraft 3 sound editor, so ripping off the CD was useless...

Bite me.

No, Really. Bite me.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 12-03-2002 08:26:44 PM
quote:
Palador ChibiDragon stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Yes, but I wanted something that worked with EQ's new MP3 player. I don't use EQWindows, and I want to be able to directly control it from within EQ.

Not to mention, it kills the normal EQ music while playing, but the sounds still come through. Now, I can put on some good fighting music without missing any sounds.

EDIT: thanks for the advice though.



You're missing my point. They behave like normal mp3s. So you can play them in whatever plays an mp3.

And I'm not sure, BM. I never noticed that they didn't use the mp3 extension myself until Deth pointed it out, and I'm at work and don't have my laptop to check.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 12-03-2002 08:33:51 PM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Lyinar Ka`Bael wrote:

You're missing my point. They behave like normal mp3s. So you can play them in whatever plays an mp3.

Oh.

Well, it's too late now. I have enough MP3 music to keep me from gagging whenever I fight or enter Rivervale now.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 12-03-2002 10:09:55 PM
.wma format. plays like an mp3, but it's only about half the file size.
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Burger
BANNED!
posted 12-03-2002 10:40:36 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael was listening to Cher while typing:
.wma format. plays like an mp3, but it's only about half the file size.

there are only 2 downsides to .wma files:
It's a microsoft spec, and you need to buy licenses if you want to make programs using the compression technology

2) It's not the same as mp3, meaning that mp3 players will not support it, it needs the ability to decode wma files, because the two compression schemes are different.

However, most new mp3 players have built in wma support, and thus negates both points...

WMA is nice, but i don't know if the built in player for EQ supports WMA playback...

Bite me.

No, Really. Bite me.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 12-04-2002 12:44:12 AM
quote:
Verily, Skaw doth proclaim:
Must've sucked wasting all that time when it's all in MP3 format in the Sound Editor

Maybe, but does it have the cinimatic music, unedited, mixxed, and balanced for Mp3 format?

I THINK NOT!

Fucker, pointing out flaws.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 12-04-2002 12:55:51 AM
Weird Big Mac. I never had any trouble getting my DVD player to play an mp3 CD that had .wma files on it.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

adenine!
Closet Republican
posted 12-04-2002 01:25:03 AM
WMA is .
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 12-04-2002 01:31:01 AM
I like it.

Plus it saves space on my laptop

[ 12-04-2002: Message edited by: Lyinar Ka`Bael ]


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Bajah
Thooooooor
posted 12-04-2002 01:34:33 AM
I just use CDex. It takes the song right off the cd and directly to MP3. No middleman step and works beautifully.

I'd link it but I don't feel like finding the URL right now. I can DCC it to you if you'd like - though that would require an IRC visit.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 12-04-2002 01:37:49 AM
I have CDex on the desktop, but the laptop gave me quite a bit of trouble with that program. Dunno why. I think XP is possessed or something.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Skaw
posted 12-04-2002 01:40:46 AM
quote:
Delphi Aegis had this to say about pies:
Maybe, but does it have the cinimatic music, unedited, mixxed, and balanced for Mp3 format?

I THINK NOT!

Fucker, pointing out flaws.


No, but you can get it from Blizzard.com

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 12-04-2002 01:43:32 AM
But I like listning into it in the car, and stuff.

And when I asked my brother in law to burn me a copy, I played it, and it wouldn't start mid-track at all. It sucked.

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 12-04-2002 01:57:04 AM
quote:
Bajah had this to say about Tron:
I just use CDex. It takes the song right off the cd and directly to MP3. No middleman step and works beautifully.

I'd link it but I don't feel like finding the URL right now. I can DCC it to you if you'd like - though that would require an IRC visit.


Nah, I'm good now. What I downloaded does the job well enough. I just needed a few tracks to use as EQ music.
Fnord
With all the soundtracks I have, I've got an interesting but strange collection of music going during EQ now. Bouncing from the opera from FF4 (the version actually done in Latin) to music from Conan:the Barbarian is strange, but better than the same old EQ fight music. And fighting to the music from the lobby scene in The Matrix is fun.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 12-04-2002 02:00:41 AM
The opera was in 3/6

I have the entire 23 minute version of that thing. That doesn't sound like Latin, though. Is it possible it's Italian?


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 12-04-2002 02:08:54 AM
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about Optimus Prime:
The opera was in 3/6

I stand corrected.

quote:
I have the entire 23 minute version of that thing. That doesn't sound like Latin, though. Is it possible it's Italian?

Maybe. I don't remember which one it really is, and it all sounds Greek to me (so to speak). The important thing is that I know what it translates to, and it sounds cool.

I'm gonna have to mess around with that MP3 player some more, and see if it's possible to set up premade lists for different characters. What works well for my DE Wizzie is different than what works well for Zaile or my monk.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
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