15 minutes, a trip to the ATM, and getting someone elses reserver copy later. We walk out of Electonics Boutiqu with GTA:VC
Discuss the laws of it all you want, and feel free to post your own similiar expieriences
Given that you're only 16 you don't know how to THINK FOR YOURSELF and discern fantasy from reality yet!
THE GAME COULD BE CORRUPTING YOU AS WE SPEAK!!
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Maradon XP wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
OH NO!! Careful!!Given that you're only 16 you don't know how to THINK FOR YOURSELF and discern fantasy from reality yet!
THE GAME COULD BE CORRUPTING YOU AS WE SPEAK!!
*Cat hiss!*
I flat out tell 'em no, and if they really want it, bring a parent. Everyone who even looks like they're 15 or older, I could give a crap less about, since if they have 50 bucks to buy the game, they've either got a job, or get an allowance, and that smirks to me some responsibility on their part.. So I give it to 'em.
Can't blame me if your child goes wrong from a video game they asked YOU to buy..
*cat-calls*
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There was much rejoicing when Delphi Aegis said this:
Everyone who even looks like they're 15 or older, I could give a crap less about, since if they have 50 bucks to buy the game, they've either got a job, or get an allowance, and that smirks to me some responsibility on their part.. So I give it to 'em.
Until you get in trouble for selling an M rated game to someone under 17. There's a REASON why stores don't allow that, you know. It's to protect THEMSELVES and their EMPLOYEES.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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From the book of adenine!, chapter 3, verse 16:
It's not illegal to sell M rated games to minors, just as it's not illegal to let anyone into R rated movies. The ratings are recommendations more than anything else.
GYDYON!!! Guide us please.
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Nekralt Avaane had this to say about Optimus Prime:
My quest now is to go out and piss off all those: "Video games will destroy our children!" people by giving GTA: VC to kids between the ages of 10 and 16.
Enjoy being broke.
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We were all impressed when adenine! wrote:
It's not illegal to sell M rated games to minors, just as it's not illegal to let anyone into R rated movies. The ratings are recommendations more than anything else.
But then his mom got pissed at me because I told him she'd have to buy it. Can win for losing or something...
Uh...yeah...say no to drugs, kids!
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Delphi Aegis had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Everyone who even looks like they're 15 or older, I could give a crap less about, since if they have 50 bucks to buy the game, they've either got a job, or get an allowance, and that smirks to me some responsibility on their part.. So I give it to 'em.
Actually.. around where I live, that $50 is Mommy/Daddy money that they gave their kids to shut the hell up. 
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Densetsu thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Until you get in trouble for selling an M rated game to someone under 17. There's a REASON why stores don't allow that, you know. It's to protect THEMSELVES and their EMPLOYEES.
Exact same reason people who are underage don't get allowed into bars. If the bars let a minor in, and sell them alcohol, then the cops come in and find out, they lose their liquor license, and could be shut down.
I agree with disallowing minors things that they shouldn't have, but games like Vice City, and the multitude of tres violent games should be allowed to anyone.
If some kid buys a game, and doesn't realize that the stuff in the game is just that, A GAME....then the parents should have a nice long talk with the kid. Kids these days seriously need a reality check and a good smack...Damn child abuse laws...Kids need a good spanking
I'm not buying for myself, btw. I buy for her, or my dad, or one instance was my ex's mom up in Illinois.
And it's good to be sure. I don't mind being carded for something like cigarettes. I do agree that restrictions on video games is stupid, though. It's up to the parents to pay attention to what the kid is buying and playing, and to instill the values they need to have as adults into them.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Lyinar Ka`Bael's account was hax0red to write:
And it's good to be sure. I don't mind being carded for something like cigarettes. I do agree that restrictions on video games is stupid, though. It's up to the parents to pay attention to what the kid is buying and playing, and to instill the values they need to have as adults into them.
While that might be true, what about the kids that are told "No", but try to bypass the parents and get the game anyway?
It's no different than plopping the kid down and letting them watch R rated movies and porn all night.
I, for one, follow the ratings and TRY to set an example. I don't play GTA, Vice City, SoF or anything realistically violent while my 10 year old stepbrother is around. Despite the fact that I just found out he HAS Vice City (his mother is an alcoholic druggie who doesnt care) I still will not play the games while he is over.
The gaming era is maturing right alongside the people who grew up playing the games. Games are becoming more violent, more realistic and more graphic because it is assumed that the players are older, approaching adults and more tolerant/mature.
Just like movies, there are "adult" games now.
Would you give your kid 20 bucks to go see a rated R or NC-17 movie when he is 14?
I must be old fashioned or something... TryToSetGoodExample2lose
If a Mother doesn't care that her son is playing a game that involves seeing how many people you can kill in ten seconds, then she's going to get it for him with or without the restrictions.
The restrictions are there to help the parents who do care. Say Bobby wants GTA: Vice City. Bobby says, "Mommy mommy! I want this game!" and Mommy reads up on it and says no.
With the restrictions, that's pretty much the end of it. Mommy is a good parent and Bobby doesn't play a violent video game that can someday be used to pass the blame on him killing and raping his teacher.
Without the restrictions, Bobby just doesn't eat lunch at school for two weeks and saves his lunch money and goes and buys it anyway, and then when he rapes and kills his teacher Mommy who tried to be a good parent, and considered herself a good parent because she told him he couldn't have the mind warping game, looks for a scapegoat.
Now I can't wait!
We don't honestly get a lot of 14-15 year olds trying to come in and buy mature rated games, and even when we do, they're usually with a parent.
And what you DON'T see are all the grandmas, aunts, and mothers coming in to buy games, and asking us "This game is rated T. Why?" "Oh, Prime is just shooting.. there's no naked ladies or gore or anything, it's exploration" or "This game is M, why is that?" "Well, it's very graphic, and has realistic fighting scenes." "I won't get that then..".
We make or break decicions on the part of the buyer as far as content goes. If we say Shinobi sucks to the customer, they're gonna believe us. If we talk/spooge for a good two minutes on Steel Batallion, they want to buy it.
Don't tell me I'm not doing my part if I sell a game to a 16 year old with cash, the company sure as hell doesn't give a flying crap, nor does my manager, or any other employees, but I still won't sell VC to anyone who looks too young for it.
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Comrade Snoota was listening to Cher while typing:
Without the restrictions, Bobby just doesn't eat lunch at school for two weeks and saves his lunch money and goes and buys it anyway, and then when he rapes and kills his teacher Mommy who tried to be a good parent, and considered herself a good parent because she told him he couldn't have the mind warping game, looks for a scapegoat.
That falls under the "paying attention to what they're playing". I agree with the ratings. I think it's good to have that out there for information. But I disagree with limiting purchases based on those ratings.
Simon is too young, but I have a 9 year old and 11 year old nephew who like to game. I constantly keep up with what they're playing. The older one especially lacks a bit in the common sense area, and there are some things that he just can't handle. The younger I would trust with pretty much anything that held his interest, because he displays the responsibility and maturity to be able to handle it.
Leaving it up to the government to make all the decisions in your child's life is just lazy in my opinion.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Delphi Aegis's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
If we spooge for a good two minutes on Steel Batallion, they want to buy it.
I put that on my application for EB and they rejected me 
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Lyinar Ka`Bael wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Leaving it up to the government to make all the decisions in your child's life is just lazy in my opinion.
Uhm.. how are they making a decision regarding your child again? It doesn't say it's illegal for them to play it, you just need a parent to buy it.
It's just making it easier on the parents who care enough to watch what their children do.
We had people that would NOT buy StarFox Adventures for their kid because it is rated Teen. Not WHY it was rated Teen, but just because it was.
The ONLY reason it is rated Teen is because you FIGHT things!
On the BACK, in SMALL text, games tell you WHY they are rated what they are rated. And VERY few parents know about it. I can sell StarFox to a parent that wouldn't get it, if I show them that and tell them what the combat is like because I've played it. If I don't, they don't buy it, because their kid is like 10 years old.
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From the book of Densetsu, chapter 3, verse 16:
What I can't stand are parents who go by the rating on the box and NOTHING ELSE AT ALL.We had people that would NOT buy StarFox Adventures for their kid because it is rated Teen. Not WHY it was rated Teen, but just because it was.
The ONLY reason it is rated Teen is because you FIGHT things!
On the BACK, in SMALL text, games tell you WHY they are rated what they are rated. And VERY few parents know about it. I can sell StarFox to a parent that wouldn't get it, if I show them that and tell them what the combat is like because I've played it. If I don't, they don't buy it, because their kid is like 10 years old.
I am in agreement.
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Red Mage had this to say about Pirotess:
Exact same reason people who are underage don't get allowed into bars. If the bars let a minor in, and sell them alcohol, then the cops come in and find out, they lose their liquor license, and could be shut down. [/small]
it's all because of those 16 year old mother fuckers who ruin it for the rest of us.
most of the little assholes who are my "peers" would take the opportunity to binge and most likely drink themselves to death after getting into a bar. then, Mr. and Mrs. Noresponsibility blame the bar and it gets shut down for giving booze to a minor. because of this, other bars don't allow ANYONE under 21 in and screen EVERYBODY.
this now means, that whenever i'm chilling with friends (most of which are 21 and up) and they go, "hey lets go to <generic 21 and up only place>!" i have to go, "well shit, time to go home and be anti-social because i'm not allowed to hang out at a bar!". and of course hearing this, Mr. and Mrs. Noresponsibility go on a crusade to abolish my ability (because i'm under 18 and OBVIOUSLY can't think) to buy any type of game more risque than "Mr. Weasel Teaches Kindergarten Reading!"
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
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