If he can pull this off, will be quite infamous and remembered for decades to come. This kid, if mister unethical pulls this off, will most likely be a truly fucked up child. Cloning is not yet a viable science; just look at Dolly the Sheep. I look on with interest, and will laugh if it's a hoax. (I suspect it is.. not allowing access to his research, but I'll happily eat my words if it's true.)
"It's something even the Masters don't reveal about the hidden nature of the universe... the deepest and darkest of all that the Force lets you see... the universe has a sense of humour." Callista, Children of the Jedi
Entire beings... a little much at the moment in my opinion.
Just.. not yet, needs to be a little more research first, in my opinion.
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I tend to agree with you, Mr P. Cloning has a lot of potential, but there's no rush for it right now. There's just too much danger (real danger, not the fanciful ideas from science fiction) at the moment for it to be worthwhile.
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Even if by some stroke of sheer luck, the child isn't stillborn, deformed, or suffering from accelerated aging, would be in severe danger of psychological problems, too.
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Alek Saege stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
The world needs more pimp-daddy Aleks.
Like the world needs another Bubonic plague.
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Humble Parcelan had this to say about Captain Planet:
Like the world needs another Bubonic plague.
It does actually, we're overpopulated. Oh well, famine will take over pretty soon. 
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Alek Saege stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
It does actually, we're overpopulated. Oh well, famine will take over pretty soon.
I guess if we're overpopulated, a bunch of Aleks would drive people to either commit suicide or build a giant rocket to take their chances on Mars.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael said:
Mars is sounding good right about now.
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Everyone wondered WTF when Karnaj wrote:
Until they solve the problem of telomerase(maybe? I know it's some enzyme) decay, clones will always be "defects," because they'll die far earlier than a normal person would. It's far from an insurmountable problem, but no one's been able to lick it yet, AFAIK.
problem with telomerase decay is that no one is entirely sure whether or not that's a symptom of aging or the cause of aging. But that's what I meant by "progeria" in the other thread. High-speed aging. That's the situation with Dolly the sheep. Chronologically she's only a few years old, but biologically she's showing all the symptoms of advanced age. She's not aging faster than other sheep; she just started genetically at a later age. It's like having a lifespan of 60 years and being born a 30 year old.
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Alek Saege wrote this stupid crap:
It does actually, we're overpopulated.
I always chuckle when people try to claim the world is overpopulated.
We can grow half over again as much food in the same land area that we could a century ago. We can grow food without the luxury of any soil at all. (and, more on topic, we can now clone perfectly healthy meat using less resources than it takes to actually raise animals)
As far as actual real estate goes, check out a population map sometime. We've got whooooole loads of elbow room to go, without even considering terraforming the ocean floors.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Karnaj had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Yeah, but Siberia and northern Canada can get awwwwful cold.
Well I didn't say there was a lot of prime real estate left 
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about dark elf butts:
Maradon's right, though. There's nothing that says you can't set up hydroponic bunkers in ill-weather locales.
Too much energy. It's not cost effective yet. Least not last time I checked.
And I chuckle when people say that there is little in the way of environmental trouble.
The fact is that most hydroponics doesn't need insane amounts of electricity if you engineer the structures properly. That was the whole point of hydroponic studies for space stations; they wanted to see how well they could grow the plants in an environment with nonrenewable energy resources, etc. You can do it here on earth even easier.
Plus the amount of energy you need to run the lights or whatever can be covered by solar arrays or geothermal shunts, and any water needs for the plants can be handled easily enough with creative plumbing (minimal pumping required). Heating is only really an issue if you're above the frost level. So underground facilities are really ideal.
Problem is getting anyone to fork over the loot to get to work.
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This one time, at Dr. Pvednes, PhD camp:
And I chuckle when people say that there is little in the way of environmental trouble.
Chuckle it up then. It's been proven that, apart from a few highly specific, localized examples, the human impact on the environment at large pales in comparsion to the environment's impact on the environment at large. Our minor contribution is just folded into the normal cycle of things.
Soil farming is quite sustainable despite the preachings of alarmist environmentalists. [ 12-02-2002: Message edited by: Maradon XP ]
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A sleep deprived Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael stammered:
Actually desertification seems to have been a natural trend. While it is true that humans accelerated it considerably, desertification was going on well before humans stopped hunter/gathering and started farming.The fact is that most hydroponics doesn't need insane amounts of electricity if you engineer the structures properly. That was the whole point of hydroponic studies for space stations; they wanted to see how well they could grow the plants in an environment with nonrenewable energy resources, etc. You can do it here on earth even easier.
Plus the amount of energy you need to run the lights or whatever can be covered by solar arrays or geothermal shunts, and any water needs for the plants can be handled easily enough with creative plumbing (minimal pumping required). Heating is only really an issue if you're above the frost level. So underground facilities are really ideal.
Problem is getting anyone to fork over the loot to get to work.
That would be ideal. If you could find enough places with resources like that.
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