ono!1 pokeymon aer going to taek over the worlds!1 
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Lee Taxx0r was all like:
ono!1 pokeymon aer going to taek over the worlds!1
Yes, yes they will.
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Who are the strange little books from churches that have suddenly become Sunday school super-stars? Most kids know the answer well: They are called Chick Tracts, and they have stirred up some mixed reactions."We just sent a letter home today saying Chick Tracts are no longer allowed on campus," said Paula Williams, a second-grade teacher in Danville, California. "The kids know they're supposed to be put away when they come in from recess, but they're often in the middle of a tirade, so they don't come in on time. In the more extreme cases, the older kids are getting little kids to convert to new religions . . . . It drives a teacher crazy."
It concerns parents even more. "Recently, my children were given a set of Chick Tracts," said DiAnna Brannan, a Seattle mom. "They are very popular with the children at our church and elsewhere. I was instantly suspicious but couldn't discern the problem. We have since been told that they are stepping stones to the 'Oral Roberts Flash Cards' that have been popular for the last few years, which we do not allow."
She is right. For instance, any child exploring the most popular Chick websites will be linked to a selection of religious games such as Sailor Jhona, Holy Wars, and others more overtly evil. A click on the ad for "Pat Robertson: the Gathering" brings Chick fans to a site offering promotions such as this:
"A global religious phenomenon, Pat Robertson: The Gathering is to the 1990s what Fire and Brimstone was to the Soddom, but with the added dimension of collectibility. Here is the official reference to the biggest new teen/young adult religion game of the decade, complete with full-color reproductions of every existing Robertson card."
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"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
[ 11-25-2002: Message edited by: BlueMage ]
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At the time, she wondered if the tutor had just over-reacted to some harmless entertainment. After all, the cute little Pokemon creatures looked nothing like the dark demonic creatures of D&D. But when she learned that a local Christian school had banned them because of their link to the occult, she changed her mind.
Do i need to point out what's wrong with this? It's one thing to take La(b?v? the Giordi LaForge guy)ar Burton's word for it, it's a whole other deal to assume that because your local religious leader claims that something is of the devil that it must be. Even from a christian perspective its wrong as over and over in the epistles we were warned to test everything so we wouldn't be duped.
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Later, during a recent party for Matthew, Barbara heard two of the boys discussing their little pocket monsters. One said, "I'll just use my psychic powers." Already, the world of fantasy had colored his real world.
But when little Billy watches superman and decides to tie a blanket around his neck and jump from the roof it's just silly. You're more likely to receive brain damage playing football than pokemon =\
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It's not easy to be parents these days.
Hot damn! If that's not the truth, i don't know what is! So lets find a scapegoat instead of dealing with the problems!
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He told her that during recess on the playground the children would "summon" the forces on the cards they collect by raising sticks into the air and saying, "'Spirits enter me.' They call it 'being possessed.'"
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, M:TG didn't teach these kids to say spirits enter me and asking to be possesed. Who did? And why is a card game taking the rap?
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Children everywhere are learning the pagan formulas for invoking "angelic" or demonic spirits through multicultural education, popular books, movies, and television.
For starters, movies and TV are controlled by their parents. If they think their kids are being corrupted into violent spiritists out to drain each other's life force with posions and colorful explosions, maybe they should take more responsibility in what their children watch? Popular books can easily be banned if they have solid evidence that they are causing damage. And for multicultural education? Well, by all means, keep the kids ignorant 'cuz those damn dirty injuns are demon-people and those chinese people! i hear they eat different stuff than us!( note the sarcasm, i'm by no means racist).
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It's not surprising that deadly explosions of untamed violence suddenly erupt from "normal" teens across our land.
It's been anything but sudden. It's been a steadily increasing trend steadily being ignored. And what do they mean by "normal" teens? Are teens that hold on to the last strips of their childhood imagination as the world mercilessly tries to be it out of them "abnormal"? You can no more say that magic or pokemon players are mass murderers than you can say that sharing makes you a facist dictator hiding behind a socialist mask. It just doesn't add up.
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It beckons the young spectator to enter the manipulative realm of role-play, where fantasy simulates reality, and the buyer becomes a slave to their programmer.
Again, if parents can't teach their children where the boundaries of fantasy and reality are and "everything in moderation" then you can't blame the cards for being there for the unprepared children being set loose in droves. Slaves, maybe. But sold by their parents.
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The child learns to accept unthinkable behavior as "normal".
Good god, that's some ignorant bull shit. Role-playing games are just that, role-playing. Issues where teens get so caught up in playing are a whole other ball game, and that has nothing to do with the games they play. And why would you want to even waste 10 minutes of your time preaching the (unsubstatiated) evils(ignorance) of role-playing(games), when there are real, concrete issues, fucking with the kids heads like divorce, alcoholic and absuive parents, neglect and a host of others. Hell, you'd be better off trying to get a law against second-hand smoke in areas where children under 12 may go.
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The child must exercise his own intelligent mind to learn the complex rules. But after learning the rules, the programmed stimuli produce conditioned responses in the player. These responses become increasingly automatic, a reflex action. Naturally, this can leads to psychological addiction, a craving for ever greater (and more expensive) thrills and darker forces.
This sounds suspiciously like the way every damn thing works. School. Work. Even in religion you learn rules to form and follow rotes.
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First, look at God's view of contemporary toys, games and cartoons. As a family, read Scriptures such as Ephesians 5:8-16, 6:10-18 (the armor of God); Philippians 4:8-9; and Colossians 2:9. Compare them with the values encouraged by Pokemon and other role-playing games.
"Values encouraged by.. role-playing games"? The only way kids are getting "values" from rolling dice and tapping for mana is if their is a major void where there should already BE values. The ephesians and colossians verses have nothing to do with this, as far as i can tell after being indoctrinated my entire life and even trained for 14 months. The Philippians verses do have a little to apply, but i offer this: The day any human being, that is not deity in flesh, can devote their entire mental being day in and day out to only things that fit this list, i'll give 'em a hearty hand shake and apologise for having a soul.
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Share your observations. Spark awareness in a young child with comments such as, "That monster looks mean!" or "That creature reminds me of a dragon," along with "Did you know that in the Bible, serpents and dragons always represent Satan and evil?"
"And do you know why? SYMBOLISM." In no way was the bible equating evil and evil's person as the same as a serpent. It was purely symbolism, much as heros in fairy tales are dashing young studs who are completely celibate and wear poofy sleeved vests and are pitted against the ebil witch that has warts and a long nose and a mean cackle.
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To teach young children a Biblical attitude toward evil before they learn to delight in gross, ugly characters, make comments such as, "Who would want to play with that evil monster? I don't even like to look at him. Let's find something that makes us feel happy inside."
This sounds like a lame pickup line from a child molestor.
[/quote]What does this game teach you (about power, about magic, about God, about yourself)? Discuss both obvious and subtle messages.[/quote]
Uhm, it teaches you things? 
The rules to the game? Oh no! Fire pokemon are weak to water pokemon!! You can chain cast these spells to gain an aditional 3 mana and play your archangel!!! THAC0!!!!
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Does it have anything to do with supernatural power? If so, what is the source of that power? Does it oppose or agree with God's Word?
Yes. Source? The imaginary powers that be in the temporary pretend world? Neither. This is one of those things that you WONT find an answer to in the bible. For the biblical answer to this? Right off the bat: It the Holy Spirit, not your 90 year old Baptist preacher.
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What does it teach about violence or immorality and their consequences?
Refer two up. If anything role-playing games teach you that rash and destructive/selfish/cruel behavior leads to rather negative repercussions. If you deicide that you want to take out that shopkeeper because you can, the whole damn town guard is gonna be on you.
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Does the game or toy have symbols or characteristics that link it to New Age or occult powers?
Ironically, Christians are some of the most ignorant people when it comes to "new age" and "occult" practices.
And now my mom is yelling at me to get in bed. This has gone on too long anyway.
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"... These evil creatures will certainly expect to loot, pillage, and rape freely at every chance, and kill (and probably eat) captives" (Players Handbood, p. 31). The game may be just a game. However, it has become much more to many people. - In Seattle a father is under treatment because his son used his service revolver to kill himself after being involved in D & D for only 2 years. - In January a 17 year old walked onto a school stage, pointed a sawed off shotgun to his head and fired. Many - many cases are on public record of involvement in D & D leading to violence - murder - suicide.
Since when does DnD have sawed-off shotguns?
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Archon had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Whenever i see a link to that site i don't know whether i should laugh or blow something up.Ironically, Christians are some of the most ignorant people when it comes to "new age" and "occult" practices.
And now my mom is yelling at me to get in bed. This has gone on too long anyway.
Amen! oh no someone is now going to write a page article critisizing me for saying amen to compliment someone about evil things [ 11-25-2002: Message edited by: NiteShadow ]
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"That creature reminds me of a dragon,"
Gee, maybe because it's a Shivan Dragon, you fucking nimrod!
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"Did you know that in the Bible, serpents and dragons always represent Satan and evil?"
Yah, and the Bible mentions Unicorns too. Does that mean that Dragons and Unicorns are real?
If Yes: Then where are they? Why don't I see Dragons any more? Where are the Unicorns? Noah saved the Unicorns, so where are they? Why don't we get rid of the Devil by getting rid of all the Serpents, if that's what he allways is.
If No: Then the Bible lies, doesn't it? Or, at the very least, it says one thing that's not really true to guide you to a diffent truth. So, taking it word for word would be actually IGNORING God's True Word, wouldn't it?
In lieu of bad taste...
I COULD NOT SAVE BLACKLEAF!
After all, it's not just anybody that can play a really good Paladin. [ 11-26-2002: Message edited by: Palador ChibiDragon ]
And I beleive I speak for everyone here when I say:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Even death itself should not scare the Christian.
That scares me immensly. Sounds so muslim extremist.
Wouldn't this also go for Fire alarms?
or the Police?
FBI?
Firemen?
Any safety equipment?
Clothes?
Shoes?
Brakes?
House?
Seatbelts?
Sun glasses?
Hats?
I am justafiably pissed.
My brain would like to make this statement: "This article proves one solid point, chrisitians should not get a say in non-religious matters."
DEER LODR I AM DOOOOOMD! WAHTA EVAR SAHLL I DOS!
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So quoth Nekralt Avaane:
chrisitians should not get a say in non-religious matters."
Congratulations, you've become as bad as the "chrisitians" you seek to condemn.
While I agree that such an extremist attitude towards games is unreasonable, so are broad generalizations claiming that all Christians are incapable of dealing with secular matters.
The fact that I am a Christian, and a Catholic no less(and fuck the protestants who say we aren't Christian because we are the original Christians) does not "magically" deprive me of the ability to think. [ 11-26-2002: Message edited by: Star Collective ]
Have I once attempted to convert anyone on this board to my religion or make you believe my veiws? No, so they can take a page from my book and deal with it themselves.
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Nekralt Avaane probably says this to all the girls:
This article proves one solid point, chrisitians should not get a say in non-religious matters."
Look at your own words Nekralt.
You may not have intended it as such, but your words could easily be construed as
"Christians have no right to a voice in government or even to their own opinion. They are all incapable of dealing with anything except religion."
Non-religious matters is a hell of a broad category.
"Christians are no longer allowed to think(not that they were anyways) or speak, this proves it."
But I said they shouldn't get a say in things. Just like no other religion really gets a say in anything that happens in society outside of religous matters.
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Nobody really understood why Nekralt Avaane wrote:
I simply said they shouldn't be allowed a say, I didn't say they shouldn't get thier own personal opinion. If I had meant that they should not be allowed a personal opinion, I would have said:"Christians are no longer allowed to think or speak, this proves it."
But I said they shouldn't get a say in things. Just like no other religion really gets a say in anything that happens in society outside of religious matters.
If you mean that Christianity the religion should not enter into secular affairs, I have no problem with that. Thats what the separation of Church and state is for. Religion is about the soul, not the physical world, though on occasion the two do come into conflict.
(My apologies, but I took the liberty of cleaning up your grammar and spelling in the quote. I also removed the personal insult. It makes it much more presentable. 
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