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Topic: Equipping a level 60 shaman.
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 11-18-2002 08:43:19 PM
So... I kind of inherited a level 60 Shaman. This leaves me with a 60 shaman and a 60 monk on Torv.

Shaman is damn fun to play, so I intend to gear her up, and here is where you, dear reader, get to step in.

I'll have roughly 140k to spend, 50 of which are stowed away for Malo. Current Magelo:
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=458477

She's kind of a neglected character, so she has just about no equipment. A bagged fungi, a jaundiced bone BP and resist gear is what she has on top of that.

Much happiness will occur as the result of advice.

Tier
posted 11-18-2002 08:45:32 PM
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a sweet title
posted 11-18-2002 08:45:43 PM
Aliahalfleaf! ^_^
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Pancake
posted 11-18-2002 08:48:19 PM
If someone's selling a SoD for less than 350k, I'll give them 350k worth of gear from my character for one.

My Shaman

That's while still wearing a Fungi. If I trade in the Emerald Dragon tunic I have I cap at 255 wis....

Beep. Beep. Beep... Ohh... I think my porridge is done.
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Addy
posted 11-18-2002 08:48:35 PM
Give me the ODS and the shadel bandit ring, plz.
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 11-18-2002 08:50:39 PM
Supple Scale... will probably go get one of those for the range.

Jaundiced Bone Legs looks like a good idea, too.

Addy
posted 11-18-2002 08:53:40 PM
Out of much seriousness, though - what focus items do shamans generally focus on? Try to base some ideas off of that, if possible.
Cetona
Pancake
posted 11-18-2002 08:53:51 PM
Definately get a JBB, and use the rest of the money to buy malo and torpor
/dev/null
Pancake
posted 11-18-2002 08:53:52 PM
SSA is damn nice.

The necklace has a level 3 focus for buff duration, cloak has level 3 spell haste and I need to replace the RMB badly.

Don't bother too much with the shoulders. They're a fairly annoying drop from Lady M in N ToV

Beep. Beep. Beep... Ohh... I think my porridge is done.
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When it comes down to it, searching the web without Google is like straining sewage with your teeth.
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Pancake
posted 11-18-2002 08:56:34 PM
quote:
Cetona had this to say about dark elf butts:
Definately get a JBB, and use the rest of the money to buy malo and torpor

JBB is pointless unless you're just gonna be a gimp shaman.

As for focus items, Buff Duration/Healing/Spell or Buff haste if you're going to be a raid/group shaman. If you're going to be a solo shammy, DoT Duration/DoT haste/DoT Mana conservation.... Shamen are just as bad at the Root-Rot thing as Druids and Necromancers.

Beep. Beep. Beep... Ohh... I think my porridge is done.
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Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 11-18-2002 08:59:08 PM
There's a severe lack of easily attainable Affliction Haste 3 items. I intend to go for Circlet of Falinkan eventually.

Will get one of those buff duration 3 items too, I think. Problem is you have to start looking for class 4 shit too

Comrade Snoota
Communist
Da, Tovarisch!
posted 11-18-2002 09:00:40 PM
Just give me the character so I can stop leveling my own Shaman.
You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 11-18-2002 09:01:25 PM
quote:
Verily, Comrade Snoota doth proclaim:
Just give me the character so I can stop leveling my own Shaman.

Let me think... hm...

No.

/dev/null
Pancake
posted 11-18-2002 09:13:37 PM
You only need the level 4 shit if you plan on going through 61-65.
Beep. Beep. Beep... Ohh... I think my porridge is done.
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Cetona
Pancake
posted 11-18-2002 09:18:40 PM
quote:
So quoth /dev/null:
JBB is pointless unless you're just gonna be a gimp shaman.

Eh, manaless nuke is always a nice thing to have, imo.

Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 11-18-2002 09:46:26 PM
From what I can see, its a pretty well equiped shaman. Honestly to upgrade some of those slots you're gonna have to raid a place like nToV, or east/west wing.

Most important thing you can do for the shaman is to get it the cannibilization AA.

Once he has that he's pretty well setup.

I noticed you mentioned malo, does he have torpor? Torpor is pretty essential as well, moreso then malo unless you raid 24/7.

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-Mayer Rothschild
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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 11-19-2002 12:13:00 AM
quote:
Cetona had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Eh, manaless nuke is always a nice thing to have, imo.

Debatable.

The casting time and the fact that's it's less than 300 points don't do much for runners. The fact that it's a DD gives a chance to break roots.

I wouldn't mind having one for my shaman given that I have a level 53 warrior on a seperate account that I use as a pet. Slow, spear, and then a couple of JBB hits would be nice.... But I'm also rather situational since I am a 2-box setup.

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Toktuk
Pooh Ogre
Keeper of the Shoulders of Peachis Perching
posted 11-19-2002 01:27:57 AM
quote:
This one time, at Reynar camp:
From what I can see, its a pretty well equiped shaman. Honestly to upgrade some of those slots you're gonna have to raid a place like nToV, or east/west wing.

Most important thing you can do for the shaman is to get it the cannibilization AA.

Once he has that he's pretty well setup.

I noticed you mentioned malo, does he have torpor? Torpor is pretty essential as well, moreso then malo unless you raid 24/7.


This is why Reynar is a Shaman God. He is wise and omniscient. Almost like an Oracle or Prophet...of sorts.

I also second the sentiment that manaless damage is a GOOD THING (TM). JBB is your friend.

-Tok

[ 11-19-2002: Message edited by: Toktuk ]

Kildace
French
posted 11-19-2002 04:40:56 AM
Hiero is nice too
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 11-19-2002 06:42:30 AM
quote:
Reynar impressed everyone with:
From what I can see, its a pretty well equiped shaman. Honestly to upgrade some of those slots you're gonna have to raid a place like nToV, or east/west wing.

Most important thing you can do for the shaman is to get it the cannibilization AA.

Once he has that he's pretty well setup.

I noticed you mentioned malo, does he have torpor? Torpor is pretty essential as well, moreso then malo unless you raid 24/7.


Yeah, already have Torpor, otherwise I'd be setting aside money for that too.

As for IV items, I do intend to get 61-65 Shaman has no AA atm, will be going for 61 first, then ploughing into the AA mill.

Probably shooting for a hiero cloak, JB bracer/legs, supple scale bracer and Amulet of Insight or Rokyl's Channeling Crystal. One or the other.

Either way, thanks for all the help, everyone.

Mod
Pancake
posted 11-19-2002 09:02:01 AM
Maybe try for FT3 Boots if you have the money left after Malo / Foci.
Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 11-19-2002 09:16:45 AM
quote:
Gevarien / Modrakien stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Maybe try for FT3 Boots if you have the money left after Malo / Foci.

Too expensive. They're like... 120k now :\

Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 11-19-2002 09:52:44 AM
Magelo updated with the gear I intend to get her. Any more suggestions?
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 11-19-2002 11:38:59 AM
I wouldn't bother with the FT boots, flowing thought is great for other classes, but shaman don't need it at all. Our mana regen is amazingly high as it is.
"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Skaw
posted 11-19-2002 11:46:46 AM
quote:
There was much rejoicing when Zaza said this:
Too expensive. They're like... 120k now :\

Heh, holy shit Torvs economy sucks. I see them between 30-50k on Luclin. Wouldn't want them though, especially since the int->full mana count cap was lifted.

Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 11-19-2002 03:46:52 PM
quote:
Skaw wrote this stupid crap:
Heh, holy shit Torvs economy sucks. I see them between 30-50k on Luclin. Wouldn't want them though, especially since the int->full mana count cap was lifted.

The drop rate was nerfed to hell and back. Before that they were 40k.

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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 11-19-2002 05:20:02 PM
Manaless click damage isn't as hot as you think it is at thoes levels. less than 300 damage for an 8 second click? I can med/Can the mana to throw another DoT before I can really dent a mob with a JBB. It's nice for spot thing, but just not as "OMFG *splurt,splurt*" as others wanna make it out to be.

You do need to work on the AA points. Can 5 is just one of thoes lust-after skills. Can 5 and torpor allow a shaman to do some REALLY scary shit.

Personally, I'd invest in a haste item for when you're having to melee something. Shamen aren't bad with a spear. I hit for 60+ with my epic and that's without maxing Str. With Celerity and a RBG the speed isn't too bad, but I'd like the Iksar quest mace too. Look into the 8th Crudgel quest if you have some friends willing to help you. It's usable by all shamen, range slot usable and it right-clicks a "Mini-avatar" which helps. The JB Greaves are nice, but the effect is useless. What sucks is they're better overall than the Thurg or PoG armors meaning you'll have to do Kael or Skyshrine... typically not buyable.

Again, the big point that I'd have to know to really make pointed suggestions.... Are you going to be a soloing shaman, or a raid shaman, or a group shaman or all of the above?

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Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 11-19-2002 05:36:15 PM
Both. I'll be soloing and raiding quite a bit.
Comrade Snoota
Communist
Da, Tovarisch!
posted 11-19-2002 05:38:00 PM
I hear bloodstained tunics and gatorscale legs are good for Shamans.
You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 11-19-2002 05:43:52 PM
quote:
Comrade Snoota stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
I hear bloodstained tunics and gatorscale legs are good for Shamans.

Welcome to pre kunark.

And yes, I know you're being sarcastic.

[ 11-19-2002: Message edited by: Zaza ]

Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 11-19-2002 05:46:22 PM
Shamans make pretty poor melee dps wise.

Even with a facesmasher and rabid bear I could barely scrape out 60dps. And it is usually less then 30dps normally.

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-Mayer Rothschild
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 11-19-2002 05:48:26 PM
Lack of melee bonus kind of kills the possibility for shaman melee being potent.
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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 11-19-2002 10:24:06 PM
I've had my spear do well for me.... I've killed Innoruuk with it.

And when you're the "Junior" shaman on the raid, you're not doing too much...

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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
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