ONLY if you believe Creationism or Evolution...discussion starts at 12 midnight Eastern Time. [ 11-17-2002: Message edited by: Falaanla Marr ]
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Verily, MadCat the 2nd doth proclaim:
I vote evolution. It's been proven, whereas creationism hasn't.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
And as a biology student I refuse to discuss this. Because, there simply is nothing to discuss.
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From the book of Tarquinn, chapter 3, verse 16:
Evolution.And as a biology student I refuse to discuss this. Because, there simply is nothing to discuss.
how bout the tiger in your sig, we can discuss how it evolved?
Just to divvy it up some.
Created, set forth to evolve - like some form of experiment.
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Vorbo Goatboy got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
A form of intelligent design.Created, set forth to evolve - like some form of experiment.
Someone needs to read up on probability and parsimony.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Karnaj had this to say about Duck Tales:
Someone needs to read up on probability and parsimony.
Screw you! Just because I want to rationalize things in a way that doesn't make me implode in internal conflict doesn't mean you have to piss down my throat.
Or does it? Shit, either way having some piss down my throat doesn't sound half bad.
Anyway, they handed out this packet that was "All about creationism!".. and used such LOGICAL stuff as "There's not enough helium in the air for the earth to be that old!" and "If we decended from modern day apes, why aren't modern day apes.. US?" and other stuff.
I laughed myself fuzzy when I tried to read it.
And promptly countered every single point that they had in the entire book on a seventh grade science education.
They didn't like me much after that.
Maybe it was because I had just proved via logic that I was god just before that, I can't tell.
God's better looking.
I should know; I've seen Dogma.
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Verily, Khyron doth proclaim:
Delphi's not god.God's better looking.
I should know; I've seen Dogma.
Alanis Morissete (Omg I cnat speel) is a hawtie as god.
I just proved I was god via some logical manner that a vulcan couldn't refute.. But I forget how I did it, it was sooo long ago. 
I know it's true, I read it on a website called "Beating your Bible - for fun and profit!" the other day.
However, my idea of "help" probably differs greatly from the ideas others have.
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Tarquinn thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Evolution.And as a biology student I refuse to discuss this. Because, there simply is nothing to discuss.
Amen.
"The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false."
-St. Thomas Aquinas, one of my favourite people ever.
Eventually, when various planetary bodies had formed, I believe that "god" again stepped in, acting as the catalyst that caused various chemicals to combine in the ways that led to the first autonomous "life." Again, I simply don't think it is reasonable to believe these ridiculously complex chemical reactions could have taken place by chance.
Afterward, evolution again takes over. Whether or not "god" has made any appearances since then is another matter entirely, and, I'm going to assume, doesn't really impact this argument.
Wwwoooow I've had WAAAY tomuchcoffee
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OtakuPenguin stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Amen."The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false."
-St. Thomas Aquinas, one of my favourite people ever.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Tarquinn said:
Evolution.And as a biology student I refuse to discuss this. Because, there simply is nothing to discuss.
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Tarquinn obviously shouldn't have said:
Evolution.And as a biology student I refuse to discuss this. Because, there simply is nothing to discuss.
Also because two debates in as many days would fook with my sleeping schedule.
Oh yea, Evolution.
I'll sum it up with this: (And I know it's not midnight yet.)
Until they can take empty space (Real space, not just an open field) and make a chunk of rock appear there. I won't go along with the big bang theory.
Until they can take some purified water. (With NO bacteria in it) and prove that some bacteria or amoebas or whatever came out of it without any help, then I'll start to think about eveolution.
Until then, it's just my word against yours.
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Rodent King said:
I'm down with creationism, but I'm not gonna stay up till 2:30 debating about it like last night.I'll sum it up with this: (And I know it's not midnight yet.)
Until they can take empty space (Real space, not just an open field) and make a chunk of rock appear there. I won't go along with the big bang theory.
Until they can take some purified water. (With NO bacteria in it) and prove that some bacteria or amoebas or whatever came out of it without any help, then I'll start to think about eveolution.
Until then, it's just my word against yours.
Ok.. then by your own words. How is there a God? Got to make him appear out of nowhere too
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Kennatsu had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Our predicted future!
That dude's site misspelled "Apocalypse"
Evolution.
sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me
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Pesco wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Ok.. then by your own words. How is there a God? Got to make him appear out of nowhere too
Exactly, if something big like the stuff I mentioned happens, my view might be changed.
And, if something big happens to back my idea up, your views might change.
Until then, there's not much to say.
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Rodent King had this to say about John Romero:
Exactly, if something big like the stuff I mentioned happens, my view might be changed.And, if something big happens to back my idea up, your views might change.
Until then, there's not much to say.
Actually... judging how people in general react to things like that. No, your views won't change
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Rodent King's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
Until they can take empty space (Real space, not just an open field) and make a chunk of rock appear there. I won't go along with the big bang theory.Until they can take some purified water. (With NO bacteria in it) and prove that some bacteria or amoebas or whatever came out of it without any help, then I'll start to think about eveolution.
Until then, it's just my word against yours.
So the big bang ISN'T believable because it is at a certain level something from nothing
Yet, an all powerful god creating something out of nothing IS believable... just because?
So life starting at a single celled level in water is LESS believable then us all appearing as we pretty much are now along with all other life in the blink of an eye?
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Right
(Oh yeah, this thead is going to go downhill fast )
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Vorago wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
So the big bang ISN'T believable because it is at a certain level something from nothingYet, an all powerful god creating something out of nothing IS believable... just because?
So life starting at a single celled level in water is LESS believable then us all appearing as we pretty much are now along with all other life in the blink of an eye?
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Right
(Oh yeah, this thead is going to go downhill fast
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Can we roll the whole creationism and evolution thing into one topic here? If you think God created Earth you'd probably think that he made man too. If you're on the other side of the issue, you belive God doesn't exist, so he obviosly didn't make Earth or humans.
This broils down into a debate about where we came from. I personally think that we've got a better chance to have been made and put here by something that's smarter and more powerful than we are. You think we're here because somehow, reality screwed up and these big rocks called planets were formed completely by accident.
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Rodent King had this to say about dark elf butts:
I personally think that we've got a better chance to have been made and put here by something that's smarter and more powerful than we are. You think we're here because somehow, reality screwed up and these big rocks called planets were formed completely by accident.
I think it's both.
First of all, we don't exactly know what the hell the big bang was. All we have noticed is that all the galaxies and shit are moving away from one another. So, bring the timeline back far enough, and you get to a single point.. And energy to matter transfers can be done in theory (Woo woo scientifically if not technologically sound Star Trek!).
And purified water is two elements. That's it. Nothing like the "soup" that scientists propose we were made out of. There was a shitload more in there then just water. We don't KNOW what, since we weren't there, but anyway..
Please bring rational arguments to a discussion next time.
