I ask this cause i got into a debate about it with a "Drug Nazi" friend.
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Lord Monkah spewed forth this undeniable truth:
indifferent
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Nekralt Avaane wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Pot is okay, if your a fairly intellegent person and do not have the addict gene.
You don't need a gene to get addicted to pot. It has a natural addictive chemical substance in it that does that.
Its totally like alcohol to me. A social release.
My drug nazi friend thinks im trying to run away from my problems by clouding them with drugs. I dont think so i deal with my problems everyday headon.
It helps me relax. i dont do it around my kids nor am i messed up around them. I only do it after they are in bed sleeping and i have spent ample time with them for the day.
I AM NOT EVIL .... well... yes i am
I have two friends who are hopelessly addicted to it.
One has to stay high constantly and spends all his money on it. He cant survive without it.
I spend hardly any money on it. Thats only when i have "extra" cash.
[ 10-26-2002: Message edited by: Dr. Pvednes, PhD ]
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Dr. Pvednes, PhD had this to say about Robocop:
Bad. That stuff will fuck up your brain, and quite quickly, too.
i dont see this frankly.
IM the same person i have always been
a bit psychotic cause of my insane ex wife
But it doesn't. In fact, it can have some very serious side effects. Therefore I label it as "Bad".
I'm not one for intentionally fucking myself up.
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Verily, Super Kagrama doth proclaim:
You don't need a gene to get addicted to pot. It has a natural addictive chemical substance in it that does that.
I know, but you would have to smoke it a bit, frequently, before that settles into effect. If they have the addict Gene then it only takes a few hits.
Smoking pot is no more damaging then smoking cigarettes, it has been out lawed because it is a mind altering substance that can cause people to do stupid life threatening things.
One can spot a pothead very easily.
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Dr. Pvednes, PhD had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Prolly cos you do the moderation thing. But it will.One can spot a pothead very easily.
How?
I have been labeled a pothead by friends.
Synny met me a fewtimes and i bet she dont label me a Pothead :P
While I won't do it myself, its up to someone else what they wanna do with themselves.
I mean, Alcohol can have much worse consequences, and it's legal. *shrug*
Moderation is the key.
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ACES! Another post by Kermitov:
A crutch is a crutch no matter how you justify it.
Yep its a crutch :P
but i still deal with my problems sober
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Nekralt Avaane attempted to be funny by writing:
I know, but you would have to smoke it a bit, frequently, before that settles into effect. If they have the addict Gene then it only takes a few hits.Smoking pot is no more damaging then smoking cigarettes, it has been out lawed because it is a mind altering substance that can cause people to do stupid life threatening things.
You can never have just a little bit. Once the chemical effect starts working you'll find yourself smoking it more frequently.
Pot is actually more damaging then cigarettes in terms of sociological and physical effects, as addiction can basically ruin your life, while cigarettes just cut your lifespan by a few years.
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Lord Monkah wrote this stupid crap:
See i find nothing wroing with smoking a J after a tough day at work.
Helps me relax and let loose.Its totally like alcohol to me. A social release.
My drug nazi friend thinks im trying to run away from my problems by clouding them with drugs. I dont think so i deal with my problems everyday headon.
It helps me relax. i dont do it around my kids nor am i messed up around them. I only do it after they are in bed sleeping and i have spent ample time with them for the day.
I AM NOT EVIL .... well... yes i am
One of my cousins did pot as a "social release" for his stress as well, but in the end he became addicted to it. I agree with Ferrel in that point. However, I'm not one that's gonna go all out to make a person quit, it's their life and their responsability I just point it out once and then drop it. I have no problems with pot, as long as you don't fill my room with second hand pot smoke.
Therefore being natural, which is cool to me.
Having not tried any "drugs" besides Alcohol and Ciggarettes, I don't know how it feels to be under the infulence of Pot.
I have no problem with natural drugs....man made chemical types are bad, and I don't like the idea of them
Sleepiness
Difficulty keeping track of time, impaired or reduced short-term memory
Reduced ability to perform tasks requiring concentration and coordination, such as driving a car
Increased heart rate
Potential cardiac dangers for those with preexisting heart disease
Bloodshot eyes
Dry mouth and throat
Decreased social inhibitions
Paranoia, hallucinations
Impaired or reduced short-term memory
Impaired or reduced comprehension
Altered motivation and cognition, making the acquisition of new information difficult
Paranoia
Psychological dependence
Impairments in learning, memory, perception, and judgment - difficulty speaking, listening effectively, thinking, retaining knowledge, problem solving, and forming concepts
Intense anxiety or panic attacks
Long-term effects of using pot:
Enhanced cancer risk
Decrease in testosterone levels and lower sperm counts for men
Increase in testosterone levels for women and increased risk of infertility
Diminished or extinguished sexual pleasure
Psychological dependence requiring more of the drug to get the same effect
From here.
If people want to fuck themselves up, so be it. More oxygen for me.
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Red Mage wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Pot, or Marijuana was made by "God".Therefore being natural, which is cool to me.
Having not tried any "drugs" besides Alcohol and Ciggarettes, I don't know how it feels to be under the infulence of Pot.
I have no problem with natural drugs....man made chemical types are bad, and I don't like the idea of them
Hemlock is a plant that occurs completely naturally. Potassium Cyanide is also a completely naturally produced product.
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Super Kagrama was naked while typing this:
You can never have just a little bit. Once the chemical effect starts working you'll find yourself smoking it more frequently.Pot is actually more damaging then cigarettes in terms of sociological and physical effects, as addiction can basically ruin your life, while cigarettes just cut your lifespan by a few years.
This is true, but the chemicals in most pot that people recieve are no where potent enough to addict some one on the first try.
As far as the damage, socially it is probably worse then cigarettes because of price/addiction/effects, but physically it is not half as bad as any other illegal drug out there, except maybe mushrooms which are not taken frequently enough by any drug addict for any scientist to figure out what exactly it damages.
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Red Mage stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Pot, or Marijuana was made by "God".Therefore being natural, which is cool to me.
[ 10-26-2002: Message edited by: Alek Saege ]
smoke it all ya want, just don't smoke it around me. come see me AFTER you smoke that joint so i can play with you.
"ohmygod Mr. Nelson is coming!!! KEEP YOUR HANDS AWAY FROM MY FACE, KEEP YOUR HANDS AWAY FROM MY FACE!!!!" - Meghan, local pothead.
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Nekralt Avaane probably says this to all the girls:
This is true, but the chemicals in most pot that people recieve are no where potent enough to addict some one on the first try.As far as the damage, socially it is probably worse then cigarettes because of price/addiction/effects, but physically it is not half as bad as any other illegal drug out there, except maybe mushrooms which are not taken frequently enough by any drug addict for any scientist to figure out what exactly it damages.
Of course. Try smoking a single cigarette, yeah, okay, neat feeling. Then, you try it once more, and etc. etc.
Addiction can make your physical condition suffer immensly. Poor living conditions, trouble getting work done, lack of money, etc. Again, I'm not comparing whether pot or mushrooms are worse, I'm saying that addiction is a bad bad thing.
all i know is its a social release for me. NOT an addiction.
say what you will.
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We were all impressed when Red Mage wrote:
Pot, or Marijuana was made by "God".Therefore being natural, which is cool to me.
Having not tried any "drugs" besides Alcohol and Ciggarettes, I don't know how it feels to be under the infulence of Pot.
I have no problem with natural drugs....man made chemical types are bad, and I don't like the idea of them
Technically, everything is natural.
And not everything in nature is good for you.
Fuckeduplogic2win!
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Red Mage was naked while typing this:
Pot, or Marijuana was made by "God".Therefore being natural, which is cool to me.
Having not tried any "drugs" besides Alcohol and Ciggarettes, I don't know how it feels to be under the infulence of Pot.
I have no problem with natural drugs....man made chemical types are bad, and I don't like the idea of them
Silly Red Mage, since when is processed tobacco with additives "natural." Since when is the PROCESS of MANUFACTURING alcohol "natural." [ 10-26-2002: Message edited by: Alek Saege ]
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Lord Monkah was all like:
Yep its a crutch :P
but i still deal with my problems sober
Well at least you admit it
that being said I think I came across as too harsh. I know people that enjoy it a little. I know one person in particular that does it way too much. for breakfast, for lunch, before work, after work. I think it's sick. This person complains that they can't get a girlfriend. I know several women that have said "Yeah he's cool, but he does drugs too much." I've told him this but he still doesn't stop. He justifies it by saying he's depressed and it helps him feel alright. Sorry but to me that's asinine.
"It is one thing to spark up a doob and get laced at parties, but it's quite another to sit around fried all day. see the distinction?"
i used to smoke every day. now, it's been months sinc ei've touched the stuff. not for any reason. i just haven't had it around me. and i dont feel like going to look for it.
so, i say good to indifferent.
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Dr. Pvednes, PhD Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Hemlock is a plant that occurs completely naturally.Potassium Cyanide is also a completely naturally produced product.
KCN?
Anything can become addicting if the person lets it. Look at all the flak online games are getting now because of the idiot that killed himself. The lawsuits popping up because people didn't take responsibility for their damned selves and want to blame a game for making them become addicted and fucking up their life.
The key, as Cadga and others have said, is moderation. Knowing your boundaries and staying within them. If someone wants to use pot, then as I see it, if they keep it just in their life, I don't care what they do. If they're hurting nobody but them, then let them.
Most of the true addicts, the ones who do it all day, *are* hurting someone else in some way. That I don't agree with. But I see nothing wrong with a responsible user.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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D enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
I've been told, on several occasions, that I both look and sound like a pothead.
Me too. =\
And with the damage, Addiction does not truely cause more damage then mental traumatization, all the physical things are results of what people do when addicted. Saying addiction will do all this is like saying a unmanaged fire will burn down a forest. The likely hood is true, and it is the reason it does happen, but it may not always happen, and it can be prevented or controled.