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Topic: I would like to know your Position on Pot
Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 10-26-2002 01:37:23 PM
Good bad indifferent?

I ask this cause i got into a debate about it with a "Drug Nazi" friend.

Professional Sinner/Heretic
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Dr Cysa
Angsty Mcangst
posted 10-26-2002 01:38:16 PM
Pot is okay, if your a fairly intellegent person and do not have the addict gene.
I don't discriminate...I hate everyone.
Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 10-26-2002 01:38:19 PM
quote:
Lord Monkah spewed forth this undeniable truth:
indifferent
"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
Super Kagrama
ROFLELFOLOL!!!11!1 YUO CAN'T RAED MY POSTSSE!@!11
posted 10-26-2002 01:39:01 PM
quote:
Nekralt Avaane wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Pot is okay, if your a fairly intellegent person and do not have the addict gene.

You don't need a gene to get addicted to pot. It has a natural addictive chemical substance in it that does that.

i shoueld joeg threw the foreast moer offeand!!11
Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 10-26-2002 01:40:41 PM
See i find nothing wroing with smoking a J after a tough day at work.
Helps me relax and let loose.

Its totally like alcohol to me. A social release.

My drug nazi friend thinks im trying to run away from my problems by clouding them with drugs. I dont think so i deal with my problems everyday headon.

It helps me relax. i dont do it around my kids nor am i messed up around them. I only do it after they are in bed sleeping and i have spent ample time with them for the day.

I AM NOT EVIL .... well... yes i am

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Ferrel
Fippy's VP
posted 10-26-2002 01:41:21 PM
Bad.

I have two friends who are hopelessly addicted to it.

One has to stay high constantly and spends all his money on it. He cant survive without it.

Ferrel!
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 10-26-2002 01:41:33 PM
I'm gonna go with the "Bad" option here.
Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 10-26-2002 01:42:48 PM
I dunno i go with the moderation thing here. Dont wanan debate just wanted opinions cause i cant think of a better thread to talk on.

I spend hardly any money on it. Thats only when i have "extra" cash.

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Pvednes
Lynched
posted 10-26-2002 01:45:11 PM
Bad. That stuff will fuck up your brain, and much, much faster than alcohol.

[ 10-26-2002: Message edited by: Dr. Pvednes, PhD ]

Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 10-26-2002 01:47:07 PM
quote:
Dr. Pvednes, PhD had this to say about Robocop:
Bad. That stuff will fuck up your brain, and quite quickly, too.

i dont see this frankly.
IM the same person i have always been

a bit psychotic cause of my insane ex wife

Professional Sinner/Heretic
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Arrenn Lightblade
Yes. Yes he is.
posted 10-26-2002 01:47:40 PM
Indifferent. If you can control yourself, why not?
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 10-26-2002 01:47:52 PM
If it had no side effects, then I'd be in favour.

But it doesn't. In fact, it can have some very serious side effects. Therefore I label it as "Bad".

»Waisztarroz«
Pancake
posted 10-26-2002 01:48:12 PM
Bad.

I'm not one for intentionally fucking myself up.

I <3 Steel Battalion!
Dr Cysa
Angsty Mcangst
posted 10-26-2002 01:49:12 PM
quote:
Verily, Super Kagrama doth proclaim:
You don't need a gene to get addicted to pot. It has a natural addictive chemical substance in it that does that.

I know, but you would have to smoke it a bit, frequently, before that settles into effect. If they have the addict Gene then it only takes a few hits.

Smoking pot is no more damaging then smoking cigarettes, it has been out lawed because it is a mind altering substance that can cause people to do stupid life threatening things.

I don't discriminate...I hate everyone.
Pvednes
Lynched
posted 10-26-2002 01:49:54 PM
Prolly cos you do the moderation thing. But it will.

One can spot a pothead very easily.

»Waisztarroz«
Pancake
posted 10-26-2002 01:50:25 PM
Not only are potheads easy to spot, but they're easy to laugh at to boot.
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Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 10-26-2002 01:51:03 PM
quote:
Dr. Pvednes, PhD had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Prolly cos you do the moderation thing. But it will.

One can spot a pothead very easily.


How?
I have been labeled a pothead by friends.
Synny met me a fewtimes and i bet she dont label me a Pothead :P

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
Kermitov
Pancake
posted 10-26-2002 01:51:27 PM
A crutch is a crutch no matter how you justify it.
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 10-26-2002 01:52:11 PM
Indifferent.

While I won't do it myself, its up to someone else what they wanna do with themselves.

I mean, Alcohol can have much worse consequences, and it's legal. *shrug*

Moderation is the key.

Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 10-26-2002 01:52:12 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Kermitov:
A crutch is a crutch no matter how you justify it.

Yep its a crutch :P
but i still deal with my problems sober

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Super Kagrama
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posted 10-26-2002 01:54:36 PM
quote:
Nekralt Avaane attempted to be funny by writing:
I know, but you would have to smoke it a bit, frequently, before that settles into effect. If they have the addict Gene then it only takes a few hits.

Smoking pot is no more damaging then smoking cigarettes, it has been out lawed because it is a mind altering substance that can cause people to do stupid life threatening things.


You can never have just a little bit. Once the chemical effect starts working you'll find yourself smoking it more frequently.

Pot is actually more damaging then cigarettes in terms of sociological and physical effects, as addiction can basically ruin your life, while cigarettes just cut your lifespan by a few years.

i shoueld joeg threw the foreast moer offeand!!11
Alek
Not The Rapist
posted 10-26-2002 01:55:32 PM
quote:
Lord Monkah wrote this stupid crap:
See i find nothing wroing with smoking a J after a tough day at work.
Helps me relax and let loose.

Its totally like alcohol to me. A social release.

My drug nazi friend thinks im trying to run away from my problems by clouding them with drugs. I dont think so i deal with my problems everyday headon.

It helps me relax. i dont do it around my kids nor am i messed up around them. I only do it after they are in bed sleeping and i have spent ample time with them for the day.

I AM NOT EVIL .... well... yes i am


One of my cousins did pot as a "social release" for his stress as well, but in the end he became addicted to it. I agree with Ferrel in that point. However, I'm not one that's gonna go all out to make a person quit, it's their life and their responsability I just point it out once and then drop it. I have no problems with pot, as long as you don't fill my room with second hand pot smoke.

"Love wisdom, and she will make you great. Embrace her, and she will bring you honour. She will be your crowning glory."
-Proverbs 4:8-9
Redmage Darkrayver
Moron
posted 10-26-2002 01:57:16 PM
Pot, or Marijuana was made by "God".

Therefore being natural, which is cool to me.

Having not tried any "drugs" besides Alcohol and Ciggarettes, I don't know how it feels to be under the infulence of Pot.

I have no problem with natural drugs....man made chemical types are bad, and I don't like the idea of them

Pvednes
Lynched
posted 10-26-2002 01:57:39 PM
Short-term effects of using pot:

Sleepiness

Difficulty keeping track of time, impaired or reduced short-term memory

Reduced ability to perform tasks requiring concentration and coordination, such as driving a car

Increased heart rate

Potential cardiac dangers for those with preexisting heart disease

Bloodshot eyes

Dry mouth and throat

Decreased social inhibitions

Paranoia, hallucinations

Impaired or reduced short-term memory

Impaired or reduced comprehension

Altered motivation and cognition, making the acquisition of new information difficult

Paranoia

Psychological dependence

Impairments in learning, memory, perception, and judgment - difficulty speaking, listening effectively, thinking, retaining knowledge, problem solving, and forming concepts

Intense anxiety or panic attacks


Long-term effects of using pot:

Enhanced cancer risk

Decrease in testosterone levels and lower sperm counts for men

Increase in testosterone levels for women and increased risk of infertility

Diminished or extinguished sexual pleasure

Psychological dependence requiring more of the drug to get the same effect

From here.

very important poster
a sweet title
posted 10-26-2002 01:58:17 PM
Indifferent.

If people want to fuck themselves up, so be it. More oxygen for me.

hey
Pvednes
Lynched
posted 10-26-2002 01:59:18 PM
quote:
Red Mage wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Pot, or Marijuana was made by "God".

Therefore being natural, which is cool to me.

Having not tried any "drugs" besides Alcohol and Ciggarettes, I don't know how it feels to be under the infulence of Pot.

I have no problem with natural drugs....man made chemical types are bad, and I don't like the idea of them


Hemlock is a plant that occurs completely naturally.

Potassium Cyanide is also a completely naturally produced product.

Dr Cysa
Angsty Mcangst
posted 10-26-2002 02:00:24 PM
quote:
Super Kagrama was naked while typing this:
You can never have just a little bit. Once the chemical effect starts working you'll find yourself smoking it more frequently.

Pot is actually more damaging then cigarettes in terms of sociological and physical effects, as addiction can basically ruin your life, while cigarettes just cut your lifespan by a few years.


This is true, but the chemicals in most pot that people recieve are no where potent enough to addict some one on the first try.

As far as the damage, socially it is probably worse then cigarettes because of price/addiction/effects, but physically it is not half as bad as any other illegal drug out there, except maybe mushrooms which are not taken frequently enough by any drug addict for any scientist to figure out what exactly it damages.

I don't discriminate...I hate everyone.
Alek
Not The Rapist
posted 10-26-2002 02:00:48 PM
quote:
Red Mage stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Pot, or Marijuana was made by "God".

Therefore being natural, which is cool to me.



Nevermind... Pved beat me to it .

[ 10-26-2002: Message edited by: Alek Saege ]

"Love wisdom, and she will make you great. Embrace her, and she will bring you honour. She will be your crowning glory."
-Proverbs 4:8-9
Monica
I've got an owie on my head :(
posted 10-26-2002 02:02:26 PM
indifferent.

smoke it all ya want, just don't smoke it around me. come see me AFTER you smoke that joint so i can play with you.

"ohmygod Mr. Nelson is coming!!! KEEP YOUR HANDS AWAY FROM MY FACE, KEEP YOUR HANDS AWAY FROM MY FACE!!!!" - Meghan, local pothead.

Super Kagrama
ROFLELFOLOL!!!11!1 YUO CAN'T RAED MY POSTSSE!@!11
posted 10-26-2002 02:05:21 PM
quote:
Nekralt Avaane probably says this to all the girls:
This is true, but the chemicals in most pot that people recieve are no where potent enough to addict some one on the first try.

As far as the damage, socially it is probably worse then cigarettes because of price/addiction/effects, but physically it is not half as bad as any other illegal drug out there, except maybe mushrooms which are not taken frequently enough by any drug addict for any scientist to figure out what exactly it damages.


Of course. Try smoking a single cigarette, yeah, okay, neat feeling. Then, you try it once more, and etc. etc.

Addiction can make your physical condition suffer immensly. Poor living conditions, trouble getting work done, lack of money, etc. Again, I'm not comparing whether pot or mushrooms are worse, I'm saying that addiction is a bad bad thing.

i shoueld joeg threw the foreast moer offeand!!11
Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 10-26-2002 02:06:28 PM
I stop debating now :P
its getting too Bitchy.

all i know is its a social release for me. NOT an addiction.

say what you will.

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Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 10-26-2002 02:06:47 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Red Mage wrote:
Pot, or Marijuana was made by "God".

Therefore being natural, which is cool to me.

Having not tried any "drugs" besides Alcohol and Ciggarettes, I don't know how it feels to be under the infulence of Pot.

I have no problem with natural drugs....man made chemical types are bad, and I don't like the idea of them


Technically, everything is natural.

And not everything in nature is good for you.

Fuckeduplogic2win!

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piƱa coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Alek
Not The Rapist
posted 10-26-2002 02:12:18 PM
quote:
Red Mage was naked while typing this:
Pot, or Marijuana was made by "God".

Therefore being natural, which is cool to me.

Having not tried any "drugs" besides Alcohol and Ciggarettes, I don't know how it feels to be under the infulence of Pot.

I have no problem with natural drugs....man made chemical types are bad, and I don't like the idea of them


Silly Red Mage, since when is processed tobacco with additives "natural." Since when is the PROCESS of MANUFACTURING alcohol "natural."

[ 10-26-2002: Message edited by: Alek Saege ]

"Love wisdom, and she will make you great. Embrace her, and she will bring you honour. She will be your crowning glory."
-Proverbs 4:8-9
Kermitov
Pancake
posted 10-26-2002 02:14:03 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Lord Monkah was all like:
Yep its a crutch :P
but i still deal with my problems sober


Well at least you admit it

that being said I think I came across as too harsh. I know people that enjoy it a little. I know one person in particular that does it way too much. for breakfast, for lunch, before work, after work. I think it's sick. This person complains that they can't get a girlfriend. I know several women that have said "Yeah he's cool, but he does drugs too much." I've told him this but he still doesn't stop. He justifies it by saying he's depressed and it helps him feel alright. Sorry but to me that's asinine.

Aury
My hair is a deadly weapon
posted 10-26-2002 02:24:21 PM
to quote a line from clueless:

"It is one thing to spark up a doob and get laced at parties, but it's quite another to sit around fried all day. see the distinction?"

i used to smoke every day. now, it's been months sinc ei've touched the stuff. not for any reason. i just haven't had it around me. and i dont feel like going to look for it.

so, i say good to indifferent.

Jaggedpine Mistwalker
Member #4!
posted 10-26-2002 02:55:32 PM
quote:
Dr. Pvednes, PhD Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Hemlock is a plant that occurs completely naturally.

Potassium Cyanide is also a completely naturally produced product.


KCN?

Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 10-26-2002 02:56:53 PM
I've been told, on several occasions, that I both look and sound like a pothead.
"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 10-26-2002 02:58:57 PM
Alcohol and cigarettes can be just as addicting as pot, with just as bad of circumstances. Many of the things on your list, Pvednes, can be applied to them as well.

Anything can become addicting if the person lets it. Look at all the flak online games are getting now because of the idiot that killed himself. The lawsuits popping up because people didn't take responsibility for their damned selves and want to blame a game for making them become addicted and fucking up their life.

The key, as Cadga and others have said, is moderation. Knowing your boundaries and staying within them. If someone wants to use pot, then as I see it, if they keep it just in their life, I don't care what they do. If they're hurting nobody but them, then let them.

Most of the true addicts, the ones who do it all day, *are* hurting someone else in some way. That I don't agree with. But I see nothing wrong with a responsible user.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Monica
I've got an owie on my head :(
posted 10-26-2002 03:00:24 PM
quote:
D enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
I've been told, on several occasions, that I both look and sound like a pothead.

Me too. =\

Dr Cysa
Angsty Mcangst
posted 10-26-2002 03:03:13 PM
Kagrama I ain't agreeing or disagreeing with the use of pot, I am just saying that used wisely and in moderation it would not be as bad.

And with the damage, Addiction does not truely cause more damage then mental traumatization, all the physical things are results of what people do when addicted. Saying addiction will do all this is like saying a unmanaged fire will burn down a forest. The likely hood is true, and it is the reason it does happen, but it may not always happen, and it can be prevented or controled.

I don't discriminate...I hate everyone.
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