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Topic: Having just finished The Two Towers(possible spoilers)...
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 10-18-2002 12:39:41 AM
I would definitely like to see the a few things in the movie:

The Ent/Huorn assault on Isengard -
This is going to look totally awesome.

Gandalf's journey from the deep earth and subsequent battle with the Balrog -
The vague way he describes his journey leaves much to the imagination, and, in the hands of the right imagination, could make for some truly amazing visuals.

The kinship between Legolas and Gimli- While it's not essential, I'd like to see it better expounded in TTT than it was in FOTR.

Now, an item of confusion:

Aragorn - In the movie, did he take up Isilidur's sword, or leave it broken in Rivendell? I mean, isn't that important to the plot of TTT? ISN'T IT?!?!?

So yeah. I'm starting the hype two months ahead of time. What do you hope to see in TTT?

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

ZaÂ’afiel
Coolest Hamster Pimp Ever!
posted 10-18-2002 12:42:17 AM
More Nazgul and more hot chicks
"Consistancy is the hobgoblin of little minds."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Maradon!
posted 10-18-2002 12:50:28 AM
quote:
Aragorn - In the movie, did he take up Isilidur's sword, or leave it broken in Rivendell? I mean, isn't that important to the plot of TTT? ISN'T IT?!?!?

NO HE DIDN'T AND YES IT IS

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 10-18-2002 12:51:17 AM
quote:
Maradon XP's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
NO HE DIDN'T AND YES IT IS

THEN WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO, MARADON? AND WHY ARE WE TYPING IN CAPS?

[ 10-18-2002: Message edited by: Karnaj ]

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

adenine!
Closet Republican
posted 10-18-2002 12:57:24 AM
I've been looking forward to this movie for a year, and judging from the trailers it looks like it will indeed kick ass. As for what I want to see...

quote:
Karnaj had this to say about Tron:
Gandalf's journey from the deep earth and subsequent battle with the Balrog -
The vague way he describes his journey leaves much to the imagination, and, in the hands of the right imagination, could make for some truly amazing visuals.

quote:
Mr. Cookies said this about your mom:
more hot chicks
Mightion Defensor
posted 10-18-2002 01:27:10 AM
Well, Arwen isn't mentioned in TTT; do we assume Liv Tyler isn't going to be in it? Where could they put her, anyway? The way she was editted into LOTR at least made sense.
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 10-18-2002 01:38:29 AM
quote:
Karnaj had this to say about pies:
So yeah. I'm starting the hype two months ahead of time. What do you hope to see in TTT?

I can't remember if it's in TTT, or RotK, that Strider gathers his army.

But I wanna see that.

(If you know what I'm talking about, then you know why.)

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Drakkenmaw
Crunchy, tastes good with ketchup
posted 10-18-2002 01:39:24 AM
[SPOILER ALERT]

Have you seen any of the preview, Mightion? They're making her and the other elves a minor plot-point as they prepare to leave and Arwen's father tries to pressure her to go.

Their departure is given significant weight in this version, even though it really wasn't even mentioned in the book.

Mord
Priest of Peachis
posted 10-18-2002 02:45:48 AM
quote:
Aragorn - In the movie, did he take up Isilidur's sword, or leave it broken in Rivendell? I mean, isn't that important to the plot of TTT? ISN'T IT?!?!?

It's not noted in the film that he took it up (maybe it's in the new edits that come out with the uber-super-special-edition in November) though if you take a look at the sword he's using during the last half of the film, it's definately Narsil.

Comrade Snoota
Communist
Da, Tovarisch!
posted 10-18-2002 04:27:27 AM
In the previews, you see Aragorn standing at the base of a statue that looks like the same statue that has the sword in Lord of the Rings.

It's about 24-25 seconds into the first preview they released.(No, I didn't study it THAT much. I went and looked again to show people what I was talking about, and I don't have the second preview downloaded. )

You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
Suddar
posted 10-18-2002 08:42:42 AM
no guys, he just oogled at the sword for 15 minutes and didn't take it.
Suddar
posted 10-18-2002 08:48:30 AM
but anyway, i'm judging the books and the movies as seperate entities.

are they both telling the same story? yes, but i won't try to compare the way they're told between the two. i just hope it's a good movie.

Drysart
Pancake
posted 10-18-2002 08:49:33 AM
He took the sword, they just didn't show it in FOTR because the director obviously felt it would be too blatant as foreshadowing to Aragorn's future greatness.

Expect the fact that he does have the sword to come as sort of a revelation.

Also, what I want to see in TTT:

MORE LEGOLAS

Suddar
posted 10-18-2002 08:51:20 AM
quote:
Drysart's fortune cookie read:
Expect the fact that he does have the sword to come as sort of a revelation.

yeah, i'm thinking the same thing. it's just better artisticly (in the sense of movies) to leave some things like that to the imagination until they're explained upon further. more effective, at least most of the time.

Ruvie's Alt
Haven't you always wanted a monkey?
posted 10-18-2002 08:59:47 AM
quote:
Drysart attempted to be funny by writing:
Also, what I want to see in TTT:

MORE LEGOLAS GIMLI


Hostile Makeover
Evil as chocolate covered thistles
posted 10-18-2002 09:46:36 AM
quote:
Drysart had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Also, what I want to see in TTT:

MORE LEGOLAS


Hell yah!!!

Alaan
posted 10-18-2002 10:35:09 AM
WARNING: A Return of the King spoiler alert has been declared in this sector!

Another possibly huge error they made in FotR is that the Hobbits all got their swords from Aragorn instead of from the Barraow Wights. THis is important, because either Merry or Pipping, I forget which, uses one of those swords to kill the lead Nazgul. The only reason he was able to kill it was because it was a sword from the first war forged by one of the master smiths.

Timpofee
Mancake
posted 10-18-2002 10:48:20 AM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Drysart said:
He took the sword, they just didn't show it in FOTR because the director obviously felt it would be too blatant as foreshadowing to Aragorn's future greatness.

Expect the fact that he does have the sword to come as sort of a revelation.

Also, what I want to see in TTT:

MORE LEGOLAS


*Gives a mental high-5 to Drysart for being a Tim and a Legolas freak!*

Error
Pancake
posted 10-18-2002 11:03:48 AM
quote:
Karnaj had this to say about pies:
I would definitely like to see the a few things in the movie:

The Ent/Huorn assault on Isengard -
This is going to look totally awesome.

Now, an item of confusion:

Aragorn - In the movie, did he take up Isilidur's sword, or leave it broken in Rivendell? I mean, isn't that important to the plot of TTT? ISN'T IT?!?!?



Well for one the attack on Isenguard by the ents never even went into detail. In fact the only thing we know about that battle is that is happened. Never did Tolkien make a big scene over it so why should they in the moives?

Yeah the sword is important and I wish it were being used by Aragorn in the movies but, in the movies they show the sword as broken so I doubt he'll be using it.

[ 10-18-2002: Message edited by: Error ]

UBT
Pancake
posted 10-18-2002 01:19:15 PM
Actually, they did go into some detail about the Ent attack on Isengard.

Aragorn doesn't start his army until RoTK.

They never once went into detail about journey from the deep and him defeating the Balrog, but only stated that he had done such.

Gimli and Legolas didn't start a kinship until TTT while they were on the hunt for the orcs.

The whole thing about Isilidur's sword confused me, but I dont remember in the book them stating until later that he got it reforged.

The new unedited version thats rated R is supposed to have 2 hours of extra footage. I've seen parts where they tell about what the gifts were they received from the elves.
The gifts actually have alot of merit in the books because they use them throughout ( or at least up as far as I am in RoTK.)

Since Nae and I will be getting that version when it comes out, we will let you know about it. =)

Comrade Snoota
Communist
Da, Tovarisch!
posted 10-18-2002 03:34:40 PM
quote:
Alaan wrote this stupid crap:
THis is important, because either Merry or Pipping, I forget which, uses one of those swords to kill the lead Nazgul. The only reason he was able to kill it was because it was a sword from the first war forged by one of the master smiths.

I honestly didn't pay much attention to the third book, as the books had bored me to death by then and I was just forcing myself to finish it, but I thought that one Rohan chick killed the head Nazgul after dressing as a man because they wouldn't let her go with them to fight.

You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
Alek
Not The Rapist
posted 10-18-2002 04:13:27 PM
I want to see more mages battle like Gandalf vs. the rest of the mages. 'Cuz mages so kick ass. And...and...and mages are cool. Mages for life.

*drops unconcious after passing out from hyperventilation*

"Love wisdom, and she will make you great. Embrace her, and she will bring you honour. She will be your crowning glory."
-Proverbs 4:8-9
Alaan
posted 10-18-2002 04:39:33 PM
quote:
Comrade Snoota thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
I honestly didn't pay much attention to the third book, as the books had bored me to death by then and I was just forcing myself to finish it, but I thought that one Rohan chick killed the head Nazgul after dressing as a man because they wouldn't let her go with them to fight.

She was fighting him at first, then one of the hobbits did sneak attack and he went poof.

Nicole
The hip-hop-happiest bunny in all of marshmallow woods
posted 10-18-2002 04:46:52 PM
The movie would kick ass if it was just about the Ents smashing up Isengard. That's all I desperately want to see (apart from Gollum, and possibly the hobbits' travels with the orcs. I like it when a book/movie shows the enemy as something other than faceless footsoldiers of death.). The facedown with Saruman at the end of the assault MUST HAPPEN. No arguments. Must. MUST I SAY.


I just spent
my last cent
purchasing this poverty.

Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 10-18-2002 05:04:07 PM
I wonder, chronological-wise, if they'll do the movie the same as the book. Isengard was toppled halfway through the book, and the epic fight at Helms Deep/Hold/Wherever was done. Are they going to end the movie where the book left off? Sam at the gates? (Which wouldn't be too bad, nice cliffhanger.)


Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 10-18-2002 05:20:08 PM
quote:
Alaan was naked while typing this:
She was fighting him at first, then one of the hobbits did sneak attack and he went poof.

As I recall, the hobbit got him in the leg, and hamstrung him. He fell forward, and she finished him off.

Anyway, the fact that it was a magic blade from the first war can be forgotten, if I'm remembering correctly. Because, while it does do some damage, it's not the thing that kills him.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Alaan
posted 10-18-2002 05:29:28 PM
I remember specifically a comment about that the Nazgul would of survived the blow, except that it was a sword from the old days. Can't find the damn spot in the book though.
MorbId
Pancake
posted 10-18-2002 06:30:45 PM
I just remember that the Rohan chick cut the head off the Wriath King's flying mount thing.

As for what I'm looking forward to, which hasn't already been mentioned: Shelob. I loved the description of Shelob in the books, it's inspired a lot of my own artwork. I can't wait to see Shelob in all her spidery hideousness.

[ 10-18-2002: Message edited by: MorbId ]

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 10-18-2002 07:12:52 PM
A few points...

1. Aragorn had the re-forged sword in the novels from LotR onward. They commented on how the blade flashed and seemed to gleam. They commented on the design on the blade.

In the movie, they had the significance of the original sword laid out by that scene where Aragorn's reading and Boromir comes in and cuts himself (which never happened in the book). But Aragorn had the re-forged sword from Rivendale onward.

2. There was never a "scene" where Gandalf's battle with the Balrog was objectively stated. Gandalf tells the story in a flashback. Nonetheless, I agree it would be very very cool to see it, especially the final conflict on the mountains' peak.

3. They never show the Ent/Huorn battle objectively in the books. You see them march on Isengard (I want to see how the Ents look, seeing as how you DO see the three trolls turned to stone in LotR), then afterwards the rest of the heroes come and see how the place has been lain to waste. Merry and Pippin tell the story of what went down...again...a minute or two for a flashback would be most...satisfying.

4. I hope they don't turn the Gandalf/Saruman confrontation into some sort of cataclysmic wizard duel. Saruman was creepy in that scene because of his enchanted charisma and how it settled into almost everyone's minds, not because he was a badass.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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Error
Pancake
posted 10-21-2002 01:00:31 AM
quote:
Black Mage had this to say about Cuba:
I wonder, chronological-wise, if they'll do the movie the same as the book. Isengard was toppled halfway through the book, and the epic fight at Helms Deep/Hold/Wherever was done. Are they going to end the movie where the book left off? Sam at the gates? (Which wouldn't be too bad, nice cliffhanger.)

Shelob won't be introduced until RoTK, it's offical.

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 10-21-2002 01:07:49 AM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Error:
Shelob won't be introduced until RoTK, it's offical.

Awww. That would make the BEST ending. EVERYONE who hadn't read the book would've been screaming at the screen.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Error
Pancake
posted 10-21-2002 01:11:57 AM
quote:
Karnaj enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
Awww. That would make the BEST ending. EVERYONE who hadn't read the book would've been screaming at the screen.

Yeah but either way people are going to scream at the screen anyway, and either way I'm going to laugh at them. I'm just curious to see if they can come up with a better cliffhanger than how it's done in the book.

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 10-21-2002 01:15:36 AM
quote:
Error thought about the meaning of life:
Yeah but either way people are going to scream at the screen anyway, and either way I'm going to laugh at them. I'm just curious to see if they can come up with a better cliffhanger than how it's done in the book.

I don't think it's possible. When I finished TTT I read the first half of RoTK as fast as I possibly could, so I could find out what happened.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



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