NERF NERF NERF
Manaburn removed. (Pissed off wizards)
Mod Rods changed to target-only, 1-charge, and 1 use per minute. (STUPID!)
Cheal bumped down to 7.5k (Wtf is the point?)
Monk defense abilities nerfed (Good bye monk solo, hello monk exodus!)
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They might as well have removed it. [ 10-08-2002: Message edited by: Terena Azal ]
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Terena Azal had this to say about John Romero:
Manaburn is still there. It just doesn't stack for a minute and leaves an effect on the user....
They might as well have removed it.
Doesn't say anything about leaving an effect on user, only the target. Now you'll just have mana burn cycles instead of CH.
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Funniest lines ever:
The description above shows how this spell has perhaps singlehandedly altered the balance of the end-game encounter by turning it into an event where the largest challenge is setting up a timed rotation of Complete Healing. Once that is established, in many cases, the event is just as playable by leaving AutoAttack on, and wandering away to watch television. This does not make for stellar interactive content.
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Delidgamond obviously shouldn't have said:
Where's Espio saying how they are going to mess bards up someway?
Verant: Today, we've altered Monk defense so that unless the mob you are fighting is at LEAST 10 levels BELOW you, and it DOES hit you(your avoidance doesn't kick in), you will take FULL damage 80% of the time. Enjoy!
Espio+bards: FUCK! THEY BROKE OUR SONGS AGAIN!
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Delidgamond Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Where's Espio saying how they are going to mess bards up someway?
They can't mess them up anymore. 
I now see druids being put into a secondary CH chain to take effect when the cleric CH chain gets too low on Mana to continue because of the new changes to the Mod Rod(INCREADABLE STUPID!).
As for MB that is more of a possitive change than anything now warriors/bards/paladins can actually get a guild raid together without having to worry about 5 anon wizards porting in and MBing the dragon to death (has happened to my guild before).
Changes to Monk defense makes sense they are a light armor class yea this will probably hurt monks ability to solo in Velks now(giving more mobs for me to solo:P) [ 10-08-2002: Message edited by: Delowen ]
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Check out the big brain on Delowen!
Changes to Monk defense makes sense they are a light armor class yea this will probably hurt monks ability to solo in Velks now(giving more mobs for me to solo:P)
Shut up and go abuse your taunt-less 3k point heal.
quote:Why are you still here?
Delowen wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
roofles
THEY DIDNT NERF PALLIES!
REJOICE!! YAYAYAYA!
[ 10-08-2002: Message edited by: Delowen ]
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"In an attempt to make mages useful, we've made them useless."
That's what I hear.
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We were all impressed when Delowen wrote:
It does make sense Sure yall are on the rampage list a lot but still I dont think verant ever intended on yall getting to whatever point yall did to make them want to nerf your AC. Personally this doesnt make any sense to me anyway seems more like a joke than anything but it is on the EQlive news sit. And as for the 3k or 75% HP heal i'm not sure if it does have no agro gain on it or not if it doesnt i'm sure they will give it some to prevent abuse. Healing is a boring job even after the heal went live I still havent tryed to group and test it even before the heal I could group with an enchanter and shaman and there was no need for a cleric aslong as the mob was slowed. And that is just My opinion on the matter.The heal is just there to help balance everything like I said it will probably be more used now that CH and Mod rods might be nerfed.
1: Yall is not a word. It is "You all"
2: See what densetsu said above.
I would have put it far beyond them.
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A sleep deprived Ferret stammered:
1: Yall is not a word. It is "You all"
It is in the South!
I'll tell you what..
quote:You forgot to end...
Ferret was listening to Cher while typing:
1: Yall is not a word. It is "You all"2: See what densetsu said above.
quote:... With a period.
It is "You all"
Furthermore, you didn't capitalize Densetsu's name.
First off: Manaburn
This isnt a really huge change. Sure it will slow down the Manaburn Teams, but wont stop them. You just need a tank and a cleric to stay alive for 4 minutes ( onos!~ )
Complete Heal:
Yesterday... I was involved in a little gimp raid on Doomshade. We killed her using a Druid CH Chain. One more time: Druid... CH... Chain... No clerics were alive at the time Anyway... ganking down CHeal to 7.5 really isnt going to do all that much. If you can work a Druid CH Chain on something, even if it is "mid-level"... The combo of Druid and Cleric CHeal Chains will be suffucient. And frankly, I think it will make things even easier if people use dual chains.
Mod Rods:
This is going to hit the hardest. But, now the floor will be carpeted with ModRod v1 instead of v2. Mages will be doing what they are doing now, just having to target people instead. Have a few mages and they should still beable to keep up. This may require you to bring 1-2 more mages... oh damn. Sorry.
Monk Defense:
Good, something needed to be done to that imbalance. Monks shouldnt have been "go to" rampage tanks. Monks shouldnt have been the "best" replacement for when the warrior left in an exp group. Monks *should* have been the best at melee. That was fixed, now they need to correct the defensive abilities. Face it, Monks were overpowered and THE MONK COMMUNITY was actually providing data to prove it. It wasnt all "Furor and the other Warrior Bitches". Alot of people saw this about monks and wanted it changed. It was a subject tossed around on occassion at the Ranger's Glade, but most of our bitching is about Paladins And now that they fixed WP stacking issues, we really dont have much to talk about except PoP stuff hehe.
int casters will take hits better.
This has been a Maradon prediction.
I am sad.
Granted, "last I checked" was quite a while ago, but I don't recall any changes to damage output since then.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Delowen said:
stuff
PESCO! Make him use punctuation and paragraphs, please!
Braen Hrut. [ 10-08-2002: Message edited by: Densetsu ]
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Maradon XP had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Last I checked though, monks didn't outdamage warriors by much.
I've always outdamaged warriors of equal or comparable level, same with tanking.
But as soon as there gets to be about a three level difference, I'm just a puller.
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Maradon XP probably says this to all the girls:
Takes balls to do something like this.I would have put it far beyond them.
How does it take balls to do this? It's their game. It's not like they hijacked DAoC and made ME do something stupidly similiar.
If people quit, so what? Thats their choice. Whining and Bitching on decisions on issues that make your role in them so insiginificant is really, really useless. If problems arise, Verant could easily undo their choice.
I mean seriously, It's not like this is the only time balance methods like these have came up throughout EQs run. [ 10-08-2002: Message edited by: Skaw ]
bleh, left some words out
It certianly doesn't seem the case right now. [ 10-08-2002: Message edited by: Maradon XP ]
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Densetsu's account was hax0red to write:
Why are you still here?
He's debating the changes that were made just like everyone else in the thread. He's allowed to do that. You can't just wave your hand and declare that he leave the board because you don't like what he has to say. Stop being a jackass or I'll stick my Ogre-sized boot up your posterior.
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Ferret the Eternal Moron wrote:
1: Yall is not a word. It is "You all"2: See what densetsu said above.
Look who's trying to be a grammar nazi. You couldn't form a flawlessly executed post if your life depended on it. If I were you, I'd can the attempt at trying to be witty, it doesn't suit you.
-Tok [ 10-08-2002: Message edited by: Toktuk ]
