Midgard sux!

I'll still play dragongem though :P

You went from heavy melee to... a pet class

I really don't like the Spiritmaster much

Although his PBAoEs are pretty impressive

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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Vorago said:
Well duh

You went from heavy melee to... a pet class

I really don't like the Spiritmaster much

Although his PBAoEs are pretty impressive

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Yeah. I more like the 'taking damage' than the 'dealing damage', though. It's nice to be tough.

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Len the Studious had this to say about Captain Planet:
Sorry. I just have to say that. After playing a spirit master on Midgard, it's fun to get back to hardcore damage. .

Midgard sux!

I'll still play dragongem though :P

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KaL here: Yeah.. Syn and I saw you get whacked by a skeleton minion the other night. I laughed at your pain.

*snicker...snicker...*

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Zephyer had this to say about Pirotess:
Champion...hardcore damage?

*snicker...snicker...*

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Hammers are actually better than I expected... Midgard Warriors still pwn

Have you seen that spell animation?

Times infinity.

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Remember that warriors two handers do only 115% styled as opposed to 140% for the hero's spear. And the hero gets a free instaheal to boot.

Beserkers are tough, but as a warrior you can take them if you engage through their 'zerk.

Thanes are better post-patch, but I still don't fear a yellow one.

Skalds are cool, but they aren't tanks, and against any real tank out there that becomes obvious. (I named my 2 hander 'Skald Klompur')

But anyhow, Dreds > other servers, because you can just play whatever you like.

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Hireko FishSlayer had this to say about (_|_):
Beserkers maybe, but heros kill warriors every time. Heros are just the superior class.

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Funny. My hammer's busted open alot of Hero heads.

Other than that, I fear no Hib. I see them die alot, though. To quote a Tori compliment, "I'll give the Hibs this... they sure do run fast."

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Bajah had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Berserker/Thane/Warrior/Skald > Champion/Hero/Blademaster

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Bajah's account was hax0red to write:
I have yet to fall to a Hibby force. The Albs have gotten me a few times, but they were rare instances, usually involving 2-3 targetting me at once, either assassins or nukers.

Other than that, I fear no Hib. I see them die alot, though. To quote a Tori compliment, "I'll give the Hibs this... they sure do run fast."

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Hibs rule guin. Only time I ever see a wipeout is when Alb zergs the holy daylights out of us. :P Which is rarely.

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We were all impressed when •Delidgamond• wrote:
Something I've always wondered about melees. Let's use Berzerkers for example. Does 'Hammer' skill impact in *any* way how often you hit when you swing your hammer?

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Dunno, I always thougth the skill level in any of the wepon skills had more of an effect on damage, My arms man had his Slashing equal to his level and always did full damage for each hit.

I think the effect on hit vs. miss has more to do with the player levels and the stats.

As to the case of Midgard meele's being better than Hibby meele's.. no shit? Midgards mainstay IS meele. And I find the idea "The only thing hibbies are good at is running" laughable. Even with my blademaster, I regularly defeat nigh all midgard opponents I encounter. Blademasters, when well specc'ed and used properly, are just as powerful as a zerker could hope to be (And determination pisses off our friendly healers.. heheh.) When both forces are organized, Hibernia is much more balanced and effective.

Hibernia has all the powerful support required. Eldritches are, in a sense, the most powerful nuking class in the game. The Druids and Wardens are not only affective healers and buffers, but can step up to help the meele's effectively. Mentalists are able to fit into any niche beside meele that is required, whether it be healing, mezzing, or nuking. Add in the fact that both of our stealth classes are amazingly effective...

Heroe's and Champs are an effective mainstay for meele when you take into account our effective and large multivariable healer source. Not to mention they are both very effective at their particular jobs.

While in comparison to Midgard, who has, in the case of healing, the most trouble in DAoC. A well organized group of Hibbies (Take for example, my guild, Wrath of Nature), when confronted with a midgard force, will commence in the OWNAGE.

Underestimating an effectively organized Hibernian force with intelligent forces is a fatal mistake.

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DS had this to say about Tron:
While in comparison to Midgard, who has, in the case of healing, the most trouble in DAoC. A well organized group of Hibbies (Take for example, my guild, Wrath of Nature), when confronted with a midgard force, will commence in the OWNAGE.

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I beg to differ. We have Healers...which have the potential for tremendous crowd control, and can heal very well...and shamans, which are capable of putting out considerable damage of thier own, with quite sufficient healing abilities.

It all has to do with the spirit of the players you are fighting with, and that of which you are fighting against. I have seen a group of four Midgard players route ten Albies before. I know, I was there I killed their paladins melee, too.

EDIT in response to Suchii: It is indeed quite important the spirit of the players you are fighting with. Recently i was involved in another keep raid, where, due to our organization and determination, we were able not only to take an Albion keep, but fend off SEVERAL midgard attempts to kill us and finish an easy job. I find it funny that you say hibby classes are easy to rip through, because i'd like to say it's the same with you barbarians :P. Like a hot knife through butter, most of the time..

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Me, I would form suicide squads of berserkers tasked with only eliminating casters. Course, that could be countered, too. The force with that can change gears to adapt to the situation almost always comes out on top

People on my server are bitching like hell about 'zerg' tactics o_O Is it the same on yours? Nevermind the fact that with a little thinking, zergs can be easily eaten ^_^ I have seen many posts on perfectly good counter strategies go completely ignored

Sounds like Midgard needs a lot of help on your server o_O

Hibernia on my server is sadly having a big lag in RVR since Middies and Limey's have gone on to fighting with eachother over Darkness falls. In hibernia we have established that whenever we feel it is our "turn" for DF, we'll move in and take the stretched-thin midgard Keeps, since they are always overstepping their bounds against zerg albion. We don't even really give a shite about relics anymore :P. We let limeys take the power and middies take the strength, we don't really care... Midgard has the leadership, but it seems like it's people are just being more like autamatons now, which means they have poor adaptability. But Hibernia still has it's fair share of losses, and every once in awhile the limeys do manage to zerg a keep when we are fighting the middies.

As for the warrior vs Hero debate...

Take a warrior, an armsman, a hero and spec them 50 weapon/ 50 shield/ 28 parry with the same buffed out stats, and no realm points.

They do the same damage, parry/block the same amount, but the Hero has a 50% instaheal and the armsman is still wearing plate. The warrior has... um, a crappy two hander.

So, yes, I say Hero is the superior class.

Thats a straight up class comparison, not a realm comparison. Sometimes a realm wins with a crappy class due to other classes. That doesn't made the crappy class better. I don't play rvr servers much so I don't take the buffs of the realms into account, for instance.

Some people are going to like Hibernia. Some people are going to like Albion. Some people are going to like Midgard. If that wasn't true, then Mythic would not have succeeded in this game. I've played all three. I feel comfortable in saying that I prefer Midgard and I have reasons for why I don't like the other realms - but they are my reasons. You don't have to agree, you don't even have to listen - but you also can't tell me I'm wrong for having my opinion.

I don't like Hibernia because none of the classes suit me very well. I'm not saying the classes suck (though I will jokingly make fun of Hibernia, but it's all in fun and good nature. I will salute a fallen Hibernian just as soon as rez a realmmate). Just none of them suit me. I don't like how nearly every class has some kind of magic ability. I don't like how the whole realm gives off this happy green vibe with mushroom buildings. It's just not my style. Plus I think Firbolgs are just goddamn ugly. And I don't mean ugly like hideously deformed. I mean ugly like I think it's a shitty malformed model with a skeletal nose structure. Claim it is based on some kinda Celtic mythology if you want, but I just can't stand to look at them.

Albion. I spent a lot of time on Albion. I actually liked Albion. It was nice. They spent a lot of time designing the Albion landscape. It was pretty. It had nice changing, rolling, landscapes. What I grew to dislike, though, was that everyone looks the same. There's really no short race or tall race. In platemail, no one REALLY looks all that different. A Highlander will have his kilt and an Avalonian looks bone thin, but other than that, everyone looks. the. same. to me. It just doesn't feel like a big variety. Granted, last time I played Albion was October/November of last year. Chances are a lot has changed. I still like Midgard.

Midgard has so many things I like. The classes are more my style. I like to see the short Kobolds and the lumbering Trolls. I like seeing the stocky dwarves and the norsemen. I like seeing hammers and flaming spears fall from the sky. I like the somber Nordic atmosphere. I enjoy my Healer more than you can imagine. Being able to support my group as both Crowd Control AND keeping them alive with heals is a rush for me. You can sit there and tell me that I am gimped all you want, but goddamnit, I have fun and I don't complain. It's all about perspective.

So sit there and talk about how you THINK this class is better than that class, but in the long run, if the person is enjoying themselves and can hold their own, then who gives a damn? More power to them, no matter the realm.

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Bajah wrote, obviously thinking too hard:

Albion. I spent a lot of time on Albion. I actually liked Albion. It was nice. They spent a lot of time designing the Albion landscape. It was pretty. It had nice changing, rolling, landscapes. What I grew to dislike, though, was that everyone looks the same. There's really no short race or tall race. In platemail, no one REALLY looks all that different. A Highlander will have his kilt and an Avalonian looks bone thin, but other than that, everyone looks. the. same. to me. It just doesn't feel like a big variety. Granted, last time I played Albion was October/November of last year. Chances are a lot has changed. I still like Midgard.

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Some of the High level Epic Equipment Puts alot of Varity into looks department. How ever your right, Albion looks uniform, but I thinkthat was the way it was intended.

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Lenlalron wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Hibs rule guin. Only time I ever see a wipeout is when Alb zergs the holy daylights out of us. :P Which is rarely.

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Scuse me? Hibs rule Guin? Say what?

The hibs are everyone's bitch on Guin - evident in the fact that Emain has become everyone's post-35 battleground.

Gotta suck to have all realms play tag right at your front door

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MadCat the 2nd got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Scuse me? Hibs rule Guin? Say what?

Emain has become everyone's post-35 battleground.

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That's not a valid conclusion.

Hearld stats point to Hib.

Of course, Midgard and Albion still like to attack us at the same time :\. Heheh.