If your friends needed help. Because they were getting hurt. And they needed you. Would you risk going to jail for them? I mean this isn't some kind of, kill someone else for them thing. This is a simple matter of trespassing. But I personally think that it is worth it. I just want your opinion on the matter. Again I am sorry if this troubles you. But I really need your help on this matter.
But on theother hand, I need more info than what you provided to submit a more encompassing opinion.
What, this is a question?
Friends > Misdemeanors.
In this case, dont let a friend who depends on you down. Call child protection, and if she aint a child, call the police.
Call SOMEONE in authority.
If it meant going to jail to see them safe and protected, then I would do it.
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So quoth Xelloss Metallium:
My last resort is to goto their house and either take her away from them, or kill them.. Which is my ***LAST*** resort to do.
Whoah shit, hold on there.
Of course her parent's are going to lie if they are questioned by the cops about abusing their child.
She won't have to worry about getting hurt anymore if she goes to the police.
Like I said, Dont Do It.
Now that thats out of the way..
Get Proof, Call Authorities again. Get somebody besides you to witness something. PROOF is what makes shit happen, not this "He said, she said" bullshit.
As for that bit about killing people.. dont bring that kind of shit here. EC is a happy community filled with niceness, and hippies, and elves, and... well, a COUPLE of Goths, but they sneaked in.. Leave your murderous intentions at the door. Because knowing makes a person an accessory, and doing that to people is rude.
And Your little disclaimer of "If you dont wanna be involved, Dont Read" means jack shit, pal.. Because merely posting in this community makes everybody involved.
Secondly, remember that getting yourself into jail won't help either of you. You'll be in jail, and she won't be able to see you anymore, which it sounds like she wants to do.
Convince her to go to the police herself. If she has any bruises or other injuries from being abused, she needs to show them. She'll probably feel ashamed about it, but the police can't do anything without some modicum of evidence.
At this point, I shall attempt to draw Gydyon's attention to this thread.
Now you understand I have strong feelings about the whole "Accessory to a crime" thing.
I've been arrested for it before. It was not fun. I aint do JACK SHIT, and I was arrested anyway. One time, I wasn't even THERE WHEN THE CRIME HAPPENED. Laws are fucked up, and they cause a lot of people problems.
So, if I hurt your little feelings, then thats just too fucking bad.
And, I also told you the proper way to handle it. Get Proof, then, Get Cops. Its a fairly easy combination to pull off. unless the person you are trying to "save" isn't exactly in as dire of straights as you seem to believe.
You may be helping her a bit but the only way to trully help her is to get the authorities involved.
Also you just made a Threat against someones lives on ths Messege board. that is about the stupidest thing you could have done. You also threatened to kidnap someone who I can only assume is a minor. I am no lawyer but I think Gydon would back me up here in saying that was stupid. VERY STUPID.
The fact that you would ven mention killing makes me wonder if you are a good person to be helping this girl.
Take it from someone who has counseled abused children. GO TO CPS. Have proof of some sort. Even the most fragile proof. And for the love of god keep your temper, speak when spoken to and don't say a f-cking word about taking her away yourself or killing anyone. I have taken a 15 year old child out of a home where they were in danger. The only reason I didn't go to jail is the fact that I took her strait to the police station and filed a report on what I had witnessed firs hand. And even then I was detained till everything was straitened out.
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How.... Xelloss Metallium.... uughhhhhh:
And I dont think she wants to be taken away.
So why again do you want to help take her away?
Frankly, I'm with the group who says "she has to help herself sometime". She's probably old enough to plan to meet you places in public. This isn't a very young child you can't make this kind of independent decision/thought.
And the fact that you've been kicked OUT of high school - obviously there is something here we don't know.
Perhaps your own past history is why this girl's parents don't want her seeing you? And she could very well be playing the "Drama Card" to get you involved deeper.
I say she needs to help herself this time. If it's as bad as she says it is, then SHE should be motivated to get help. Does she have any relatives she could go to? Failing that, CPS or the police - or even a juvenile advocate could help.
Meri
(Edited because I the word "apparently" too many times!) [ 09-20-2002: Message edited by: Meridian ]
People you care about beeing stupid about such things is pure frustration, but all you can do is show them, explain to them, and offer help. The decision to try and do something about it lies with them. Some people like to draw attention, so better be sure she's telling you the whole truth before doing anything.
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From the book of Sentow, chapter 3, verse 16:
At this point, I shall attempt to draw Gydyon's attention to this thread.
And I appear.
All you are doing is enabling a codependent here. At serious personal risk to yourself, as the record of the arrest will stick with you. Schools don't fool around with idle threats -- they can and will arrest you.
Sounds to me like she's testing you to see how far you will go, and that she is seriously messed up. That's not a slam, just an outside observation. People who are hurting sometimes do bad things.
Be careful. Be very careful. Do what you can to extricate her from the situation -- by visiting her and "making her feel better," you may be prolonging the situation rather than helping her, because she might get up the courage to leave.
Just my two cents.
Thinking about your posts
(and billing you for it) since 2001
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Judge Gydyon thought about the meaning of life:At serious personal risk to yourself, as the record of the arrest will stick with you.
To take that even further:
A lot of places will 'not' hire you if you have a criminal record. Criminal actions are frowned on highly now by many places.
It puts you into a high risk area and will close a lot of doors.
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