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Topic: Possibly more levels in PoP
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 09-13-2002 09:58:16 AM
http://eq.crgaming.com/

Hope this is true.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 09-13-2002 10:17:59 AM
quote:
Reynar had this to say about Robocop:
Hope this is true.

Why, so an AE group hits 65 in three days and gets to tell you all about how painful it is?

"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 09-13-2002 10:23:07 AM
quote:
D had this to say about Duck Tales:
Why, so an AE group hits 65 in three days and gets to tell you all about how painful it is?

Because without more levels, the high end game will stagnate.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 09-13-2002 10:32:54 AM
And WITH more levels, the high end game will become:

'Seeking 4 more 4 1-group statue kill PST'

I hope those levels are restricted to PoP.

Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 09-13-2002 10:35:52 AM
quote:
Zaza had this to say about Captain Planet:
And WITH more levels, the high end game will become:

'Seeking 4 more 4 1-group statue kill PST'

I hope those levels are restricted to PoP.


That would be fine with me. It's just without more levels there's no good way to increase player power, and some of us have been level 60 for a couple years now, it's time to get beefed up...especially if we are expected to fight in multiple new planes.

And people in the high end game, dont kill the statue

We stopped bothering with him and the AoW over 2 months ago. He's killed by the 2nd and 3rd tier guilds now.

[ 09-13-2002: Message edited by: Reynar ]

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 09-13-2002 11:35:19 AM
quote:
A sleep deprived Reynar stammered:
That would be fine with me. It's just without more levels there's no good way to increase player power, and some of us have been level 60 for a couple years now, it's time to get beefed up...especially if we are expected to fight in multiple new planes.

And people in the high end game, dont kill the statue

We stopped bothering with him and the AoW over 2 months ago. He's killed by the 2nd and 3rd tier guilds now.


That is why EQ amuses me so much at times

Taylen
Pancake
posted 09-13-2002 11:47:36 AM
So they can mess the balence up for 60+ levels and spend the next few years trying to rebalence them post 60 without screwing up 60 and below. So they can have to eaither beef up older encounters with the assumption people are gonna start doing them with all level 65's. So they can include trivial code on older mobs that if any 60+ hits them there are teleported out of the zone. So people can bitch about levels 60+ and how hard it is and then when the levels are made easier or at least less annoying the same people complain about new people having it easy. So people can powerlevel a guild to 65, rip through the planes and then complain about how SoE never puts anything in the games for them (nevermind this will happen with or without added levels). So they can impliment some sort of code resistricting levels 60+ to only working in the planes and needlessly complicating things.

If they want to make things more interesting for level 60+, make better AA's that require 2 or 3 times as much exp as current AA's. Tie new spells into those or new abilites so the characters can beef up for harder content without neccesitating older things being tweaked so much.

[ 09-13-2002: Message edited by: Taylen ]

"When correctly viewed, everything is lewd." - Tom Lehrer.
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Taylen Ashenbow
Rangers never run we mearly stratigically retreat.
Thats not a train thats a pull, my trains are always much bigger.
Mod
Pancake
posted 09-13-2002 12:17:26 PM
Yay, another 6 months in sebilis.
Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 09-13-2002 12:20:52 PM
quote:
Gevarien / Modrakien attempted to be funny by writing:
Yay, another 6 months years in sebilis.
Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 09-13-2002 12:23:24 PM
...

3 years, and I still haven't hit 60..

AND NOW I MIGHT HAVE TO GO FOR 65???

*collapses* *CRY* please no more...

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 09-13-2002 12:28:48 PM
I'd rather Verant be creative with what power the players have access to now than to try to simply make them more powerful so they can beat more powerful enemies in PoP.
I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Mod
Pancake
posted 09-13-2002 12:36:19 PM
Why not just make killing the top mobs in PoP give the raid force a level each, once per character.

For example: Kill Kill cursed, your raid force turns 62, kill seru and it turns 63 kill emp and it turns 64 kill Aten it turns 65.....

Killing a hojillion mushrooms is simply retarded and requires 0 skill whatsoever.

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 09-13-2002 12:43:56 PM
quote:
Aanicat had this to say about Captain Planet:
...

3 years, and I still haven't hit 60..

AND NOW I MIGHT HAVE TO GO FOR 65???

*collapses* *CRY* please no more...


Nope. Just play at the levels you have fun at. The high end game was never intended to be something you must do, it's just there if it appeals to you.

For me, it appears that 20-25 is my limit on characters that I like. I don't have enough desire to take them higher, when I can have fun with them at that level.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 09-13-2002 12:59:35 PM
quote:
Aanicat had this to say about John Romero:
...

3 years, and I still haven't hit 60..

AND NOW I MIGHT HAVE TO GO FOR 65???

*collapses* *CRY* please no more...


You don't have to, this is why its called the high level game. It takes a good amount of effort to get there.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 09-13-2002 02:21:29 PM
quote:
Gevarien / Modrakien had this to say about Tron:
Yay, another 6 months in sebilisCT / Umbral / ToV / Ssra.
Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 09-13-2002 02:28:15 PM
quote:
This one time, at Reynar camp:
You don't have to, this is why its called the high level game. It takes a good amount of effort to get there.


naa.. i gotta do it... I got spells sittin in the bank! muhaha

Though i don't think i could get PoP... I'm having enough problems running EQ with all the other expansions...

Lashanna
noob
posted 09-13-2002 02:30:41 PM
And then they can stop balancing 50-60 like they stopped balancing 1-49 .
Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 09-13-2002 02:38:03 PM
1-50 is more balanced then 51-60 atm 51-60 multiply the pre-50 problems 10fold heh.
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 09-13-2002 02:47:34 PM
Guess I just dont see what's so unbalancing between with lvls 50-60.

There's a lot of class balancing issues, but I dont see any real ones from leveling.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 09-13-2002 03:15:20 PM
quote:
Reynar's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
Guess I just dont see what's so unbalancing between with lvls 50-60.

There's a lot of class balancing issues, but I dont see any real ones from leveling.


NM You said it and I didnt catch it.

[ 09-13-2002: Message edited by: Pesco ]

Emily
Why's everybody always hittin on me?
posted 09-13-2002 03:16:52 PM
If they add more levels, I'm quitting.
Should've done something, but I've done it enough
By the way your hands were shaking
Rather waste some time with you

Should've said something, but I've said it enough
By the way my words were faded
Rather waste some time with you...

Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 09-13-2002 03:21:14 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Savannah wrote:
If they add more levels, I'm quitting.


If they don't add more levels, I'm quitting =)

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 09-13-2002 03:36:03 PM
More levels = Easier AA Gain
Oh shi...
what
posted 09-13-2002 04:38:37 PM
I said the same thing about level increasement in IRC and Pesco laughed at me. WHO'S LAUGHING NOW ASSHOLE!!!!
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 09-13-2002 04:58:38 PM
quote:
•dnomagdileD• thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
I said the same thing about level increasement in IRC and Pesco laughed at me. WHO'S LAUGHING NOW ASSHOLE!!!!

No.. I said they were going to raise the level but werent going to restrict it based on where you were in Norrath, which is what you said. I've known they were probably going to increase the level for a long time. This isnt the first thing that has come around that points to it There is *ZERO* evidence that says they are going to restrict it, that is one of the many things that gets cooked up before all the expansions that never were to come.

[ 09-13-2002: Message edited by: Pesco ]

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 09-13-2002 05:13:50 PM
But what's left to level up for?
I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Skaw
posted 09-13-2002 05:23:59 PM
quote:
So quoth Savannah:
If they add more levels, I'm quitting.

Your not one thats been sitting below 60 through 3 expansions. I really should work on it harder, but exp-based risk/reward ratios are pretty dismal now.

quote:
JooJooFlop enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
But what's left to level up for?

Nothing really. Braging rights...

You'll still be able to do PoP stuff without going through the extra levels.

[ 09-13-2002: Message edited by: Skaw ]

Willias
Pancake
posted 09-13-2002 06:24:27 PM
Quite frankly, even though I'm not level 60 yet, if they add more levels to the game, I WELCOME IT. Think about it: once you get to 60, all thats left is loot, raids, and alt xp to try and advance your character with. With levels above 60, it gives the top guys another goal to try and reach. (And I personally hope that they add more than 5 levels.)
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 09-13-2002 06:31:21 PM
quote:
Reynar obviously shouldn't have said:
That would be fine with me. It's just without more levels there's no good way to increase player power, and some of us have been level 60 for a couple years now, it's time to get beefed up...especially if we are expected to fight in multiple new planes.

And people in the high end game, dont kill the statue

We stopped bothering with him and the AoW over 2 months ago. He's killed by the 2nd and 3rd tier guilds now.


Yeah, Reynar, the real high end game won't become that, but it'll be another Manaburn situation.

As in, the mobs that 2nd and 3rd tier guilds benefit from today would become greed kills for small groups of L65's decked out in PoP gear and with large amounts of AA.

[ 09-13-2002: Message edited by: Zaza ]

Ferrel
Fippy's VP
posted 09-13-2002 06:44:02 PM
Its not possibly, there are at least an additional 5 levels coming. Thus far it appears to be like normal experience, but that isnt confirmed for all 5 levels.

Got it from an extremely, extremely good source.

Ferrel!
Naota Nandaba
Don't ask me about any goddamned bannings!
posted 09-13-2002 08:09:25 PM
quote:
Palador ChibiDragon got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Nope. Just play at the levels you have fun at. The high end game was never intended to be something you must do, it's just there if it appeals to you.

For me, it appears that 20-25 is my limit on characters that I like. I don't have enough desire to take them higher, when I can have fun with them at that level.


I envy your ability to find fun in that game pre-30.

Nothing amazing happens here.
Only the ordinary.
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 09-13-2002 08:58:43 PM
quote:
Ferrel Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Its not possibly, there are at least an additional 5 levels coming. Thus far it appears to be like normal experience, but that isnt confirmed for all 5 levels.

Got it from an extremely, extremely good source.


Normal post-50 experience?

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Ferrel
Fippy's VP
posted 09-13-2002 09:09:27 PM
Didn't say how hard it was /shrug. Just that you keel stuff to get it.
Ferrel!
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 09-13-2002 09:23:04 PM
I dunno if I see much point in it.
I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Super Kagrama
ROFLELFOLOL!!!11!1 YUO CAN'T RAED MY POSTSSE!@!11
posted 09-13-2002 09:30:56 PM
quote:
Kegwen 2.0 had this to say about Knight Rider:
I envy your ability to find fun in that game pre-30.

You're a druid. I think I've found your problem.

i shoueld joeg threw the foreast moer offeand!!11
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 09-13-2002 09:36:25 PM
quote:
Ferrel had this to say about Duck Tales:
Its not possibly, there are at least an additional 5 levels coming. Thus far it appears to be like normal experience, but that isnt confirmed for all 5 levels.

Got it from an extremely, extremely good source.


Thats good to hear.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 09-14-2002 12:26:56 AM
Are we looking at normal experience from the standpoint of level 60 or level 59? That is a biiiiig difference.
Ferrel
Fippy's VP
posted 09-14-2002 12:28:35 AM
I honestly dont know. I dont have those sorta details.
Ferrel!
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 09-14-2002 12:34:11 AM
Lets hope it is 60... AA is fairly all consuming atm, especially for my class. 50+ AA Dings is a bit of a pain in the ass Not sure which torments you more.. AA or Normal EXP hehe.

[ 09-14-2002: Message edited by: Pesco ]

Delowen
Pancake
posted 09-14-2002 12:40:52 AM
http://forums.evercrest.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=032955

has link to confermation of lvl cap increasing.

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