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Topic: Dont exploit the Z-axis!
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 08-28-2002 09:55:38 AM
http://www.legacyofsteel.net/

Or you'll get suspended.

EQ really has some mental retards working for their CS team.


Edit: even more fun- http://www.fohguild.org/html/index.php

quote:
Secondly, I've never fought anything for almost two hours straight... wait for it... I have heard of mobs in PoP having up to and maybe beyond ten million hit points. Let me just say that if any single boss encounter ever lasts this long again in any expansion, I can guarantee you people at Verant that everyone that aspires to reach this level of gaming in Everquest and everyone thats already at this level will leave. I would rather play Minesweeper while a rabid chimp gnaws at my testicles than go through another fight like the one we had yesterday.

[ 08-28-2002: Message edited by: Reynar ]

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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 08-28-2002 10:05:33 AM
Z axis splioting?

I see that every time a lev and sow'ed n00b goes running to KC from the spire in DL.... All kinds of shit shows up at zone...

BAN THEM ALL!

VI must be populated with fucking tards man....

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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Pancake
posted 08-28-2002 10:34:04 AM
I can't look at the links, durn school firewall. But I'll let Slasher know he's in danger of suspention when I see him in an hour and one half. Hehe, I always called him an idiot for doing that.
The Curman
Pancake
posted 08-28-2002 11:37:03 AM
Im in Flowers of Happiness of Rallos Zek, I have 14necro, I got some Lodizal Shell Boots off some twink last night too.
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 08-28-2002 12:11:20 PM
Read that last night.

That is pretty ass lame, someone needs a boot to the ass.

Caanis Lupus
Rub me?
posted 08-28-2002 12:44:26 PM
I am waiting to hear another GM going nuts and binding people in the temple or something like the GM that bound players in Veeshan Peak.
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 08-28-2002 04:16:17 PM
I still never got an apology for a GM sending me to Kael for camping orcs in EC.
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Nwist, Who?
Nwist
posted 08-28-2002 04:27:34 PM
quote:
Claeton Winterwolf thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Im in Flowers of Happiness of Rallos Zek, I have 14necro, I got some Lodizal Shell Boots off some twink last night too.

I mock you for being in, quite possibly, the weakest guild on the server.

Funniest though

Ferrel
Fippy's VP
posted 08-28-2002 05:33:01 PM
That was rediculous. The GM had no business doing that. I imagine Alan will come up with some BS justification later.
Ferrel!
Bajah
Thooooooor
posted 08-28-2002 06:18:38 PM
There's a group of LoS in my hometown? :/ hehe

But holy crap. What a load of shit.

The Curman
Pancake
posted 08-28-2002 06:19:39 PM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Commie Nwist:
I mock you for being in, quite possibly, the weakest guild on the server.

Funniest though


nOOOOO!!!!!1 See FoH used to totally suck, But like we kicked everyone out and reform, a lot of us now have chars with fungis and just make em to lvl9 to PK, We are good now...everyone is....except me.

Woody
Toast the Destroyer
posted 08-28-2002 07:23:46 PM
LoS were not suspended for a Z-axis exploit. It's even worse. They were suspended for circumventing content.

There are mobs in place that disallow certain pulls. LoS had cleared these mobs to use the Dain tactic to get at mini. The CS guy did not get this.

It's worse that getting suspended for a Z-Axis exploit... it's getting suspended because the GM had no idea what the deal was.

(This is based on the info made available to me by LoS members)

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JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 08-28-2002 07:38:08 PM
What is the Dain tactic, anyways?
I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
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Pancake
posted 08-28-2002 08:55:52 PM
quote:
JooJooFlop had this to say about Punky Brewster:
What is the Dain tactic, anyways?

You are not leet enough to know.

Oh, and how many here have hunted in Unrest? YOU'RE ALL BANED FOR Z-AXIS SPLOITING IN THE TOWER/BAR!

Sorry, my moronic assfuck (read: Verant GM) mode kicked in.

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posted 08-28-2002 10:18:02 PM
quote:
RPC's account was hax0red to write:
YOU'RE ALL BANED FOR Z-AXIS SPLOITING IN THE TOWER/BAR!

I fucking hated that when I hunted there for XP. Same with Ghost aggroing from outside the tower on the back lawn.

"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
Emily
Why's everybody always hittin on me?
posted 08-28-2002 10:46:07 PM
Really stupid. I couldn't even believe it when I heard it.

If the mob wasn't meant to be pulled (in a Z-Axis, whatever that is..) ... Why not perma-root it in it's spot? Hello?

Verant?

Anyone home?

Should've done something, but I've done it enough
By the way your hands were shaking
Rather waste some time with you

Should've said something, but I've said it enough
By the way my words were faded
Rather waste some time with you...

Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 08-28-2002 10:48:08 PM
quote:
Miss Isis Pandoria had this to say about pies:
Why not perma-root it in it's spot?

GOD FUCK SHIT NO PLEASE NO MORE FUCK NO STOP PAIN.

"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
Emily
Why's everybody always hittin on me?
posted 08-28-2002 10:51:05 PM
I was gonna ask 'What???' and then I noticed you're a Monk.

Sorry, buddy.

Should've done something, but I've done it enough
By the way your hands were shaking
Rather waste some time with you

Should've said something, but I've said it enough
By the way my words were faded
Rather waste some time with you...

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 08-28-2002 11:37:38 PM
*snickers*

Isis wins.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
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Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 08-28-2002 11:46:24 PM
Perma-Rooted Mobs suck for everyone, not just monks
Maradon!
posted 08-28-2002 11:48:04 PM
quote:
Pesco probably says this to all the girls:
Perma-Rooted Mobs suck for everyone, not just monks

yeah but they suck most for monks.

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 08-28-2002 11:51:14 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Maradön²:
yeah but they suck most for monks.
Why? Because the monk can't pull them? That doesn't affect the MONKS more than anyone else, since everyone has to rush the mob, not just the monks.
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 08-28-2002 11:54:47 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Maradön² was all like:
yeah but they suck most for monks.

No.. they suck for everyone equally. Perma-Rooted = Dealing with a high chance, if not gaurenteed, of adds. And after you kill said adds, they respawn quickly.

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 08-28-2002 11:55:52 PM
If anything it sucks LESS for monks, since it's a mob they don't have to go through the pain of pulling.
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 08-28-2002 11:57:27 PM
Good for AM Rangers too since you dont have to worry about toes in walls.

But yea, I'd rather just melee and not have to worry about adds.

[ 08-28-2002: Message edited by: Pesco ]

Maradon!
posted 08-29-2002 12:00:35 AM
quote:
How.... Pesco.... uughhhhhh:
No.. they suck for everyone equally.

Yeah, I just felt it would be humerous to disagree with you on the same issue twice.

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 08-29-2002 12:02:29 AM
See, you COULD have backed up your claim of it being worse for monks with the whol CR bit. "Perma-rooted mobs mean a higher chance of wipe-out due to adds, and thus, more CR for Monks."

But you didn't.

YOU LOSE!

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 08-29-2002 12:03:28 AM
quote:
Pesco had this to say about Captain Planet:
No.. they suck for everyone equally. Perma-Rooted = Dealing with a high chance, if not gaurenteed, of adds. And after you kill said adds, they respawn quickly.

Unless they changed the spawn rate of said adds to equal the boss mob itself.

Still, that could get a little tricky unless the adds were supposed to be part of the encounter.

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 08-29-2002 12:05:03 AM
Actually, Perma-Rooted mobs are god-sends for guilds who can abuse them.

Nothing says love like a mob that doesn't DT or Summon anyone for the first 15% of it's HP because it's too pissed at someone who's outta range.

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 08-29-2002 12:06:47 AM
quote:
JooJooFlop had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Unless they changed the spawn rate of said adds to equal the boss mob itself.

Still, that could get a little tricky unless the adds were supposed to be part of the encounter.


They are, in the case of the Emporer in Ssra and a few other encounters that my fried brain is forgetting about.

Maradon!
posted 08-29-2002 12:08:14 AM
quote:
Densetsu had this to say about pies:
But you didn't.

YOU LOSE!


I didn't feel like it.

I don't even really believe it is any worse for monks. That's why I said I didn't.

See?

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 08-29-2002 12:15:17 AM
quote:
Batty had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
They are, in the case of the Emporer in Ssra and a few other encounters that my fried brain is forgetting about.

Still, that could kill any public Vox/Naggy raid if they had to take on both the dragon and minions at once.

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Emily
Why's everybody always hittin on me?
posted 08-29-2002 12:15:51 AM
/hijack

Iksar Monks > Human Monks.

TAILS...

/drool

Should've done something, but I've done it enough
By the way your hands were shaking
Rather waste some time with you

Should've said something, but I've said it enough
By the way my words were faded
Rather waste some time with you...

Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 08-29-2002 12:24:26 AM
quote:
JooJooFlop had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Still, that could kill any public Vox/Naggy raid if they had to take on both the dragon and minions at once.

Only if the minions were fast respawning or permarooted themselves. Hell, permaroot would make clearing Naggy/Vox easier if anything. Same for any mob that's permarooted and has slow respawn guardians that aren't permarooted themselves. Oh, and doesn't have a DT.

Steven Steve
posted 08-29-2002 12:24:47 AM
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Nwist, Who?
Nwist
posted 08-29-2002 01:16:26 AM
Humans have belly buttons.
Ferrel
Fippy's VP
posted 08-29-2002 03:57:58 AM
You're all baned for skipping content! OMG! I'm a GM! Look at me!

Sorry... this was funny when I came up with it.

Ferrel!
Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 08-29-2002 05:23:01 AM
could someone 'splain to me what Z-axis 'sploiting is?

i think i've got the idea but i'm not sure.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 08-29-2002 06:50:17 AM
I'm in the same boat as Geeorn. Someone want to explain?
Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 08-29-2002 08:25:58 AM
Z-axis 'sploiting is basically this:

1: If a mob gets lost on it's pathing, and enough time passes, it will warp to you.

2: There are two types of "roofs". The first is simply a map block. For example, the solid stone wall between Bedroom and Bats in Lower Guk. It's a block of inpassable map space. The second is a "plate". Basically a thin blocker, not map space, that prevents you from falling, but sometimes does NOT prevent you from going up through. Example: Unrest Roofs, the roof of an inn, a door (though that's not a roof, it's the same kind of blocker, and you can get through it with some wriggling and tweaking).

Z axis sploiting is using different methods to get through the blockers, making the mob get lost, and warp to your location.

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