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Kirane
Pancake
posted 07-13-2002 01:14:40 PM
America is fat, and I'm here to rant about it..

People seriously need to get out and exercise sometime, I cannot see how they stand to be the way they are. I'm no perfect ultra strong with no body fat type of guy, but I'm healthy.

I was talking to one of my friends that has just come over from Austria, and hes like people told me in Ausrtira that all American people were fat. He said they were almost right.

My girlfriend has a 27 year old uncle living with her and her parents and he has to weigh about 450 pounds. He just sits around watching Golden Girls all day(I kid you not). They are gonna kick him out if he doesn't get a job, but due to his Obesity he really cannot. He eats and eats and eats, but only when no ones there..

That will be all, but please people.. Eat Healthy and Excersie.. alot..

Maradon!
posted 07-13-2002 01:32:03 PM
While I don't eat healthy at all, I don't eat a lot either.

The unhealthy things I do eat, I eat in moderation. For instance potato chips. I can't stand to just sit there with a bag of potato chips gorging myself. I'll eat them as a condiment on a big sandwich, and that'll be my dinner. Or I'll eat a small bowl full.

It's not like I'm thinking "Oh I better stop eating potato chips or i'll get fat", I simply get sick of eating them.

And while I'm not the most active person either, I am mindful of my physical condition. I'll walk to the corner market instead of driving. I'll do pushups or situps some nights before bed.

Really, unless you're genetically predisposed, I don't see any excuse to be obese if you don't want to be.

Skaw
posted 07-13-2002 01:35:34 PM
Sorta like Maradon, I don't eat healthy, yet I hardly eat(1 real meal a day)

Sometimes, I'll have something like a few slices of pizza during the normal hours of the day. But during the meal I do eat(dinner), I could eat half to 3/4s of a large.

Ever since school ended, I've been losing weight. And I ate bought lunches. Just goes to show what kinda crap they put in that stuff.

[ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Skaw ]

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 07-13-2002 01:36:20 PM
I'm starting to get a belly... I really should start excercising more.
Kirane
Pancake
posted 07-13-2002 01:47:33 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Skaw was all like:

Ever since school ended, I've been losing weight. And I ate bought lunches. Just goes to show what kinda crap they put in that stuff.

Exactly what happened here. I used to weight 170 pounds during school. I now weigh 147 pounds and will never go back to like I was at school.

Like I said, I'm no person that only eats like one peice of letteuce a day.. I eat Pizza every now and then. I also go out to eat and have alot of steak, but I do watch my junk food intake.

The great part of being skinny now is I've been asked to model clothes for alot of stores!! Free clothes, and getting paid!!!

Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 07-13-2002 01:49:01 PM
I do martial arts and let me tell you, getting the shit kicked out of you by black belts really helps you lose weight.

Not driving helps too, I ride a bike around town everyday

(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Skaw
posted 07-13-2002 02:02:57 PM
I walk. No liscence. Sadf.
Niklas
hay guys whats going on in this title?
posted 07-13-2002 02:05:35 PM
well, I'm large.. not obese by a long sho but I am genetically predisposed (through my english side) to be of rather large build (HUGE shoulders and rather short). Many people think I'm fat but I do try to not eat to much junk food etc. For some reason I find this much easier to do during hollidays rather than during school time but I found that the most effective way to stop myself eating to much.. is playing on the computer

If I'm on the computer, though I don't get much excercise, I just do NOT eat junk food except the occasional pringle or whatever. But I admit that the only excercise I get is walking, usually.

Maradon!
posted 07-13-2002 02:14:14 PM
You know the primary reason Americans are so fat is because of the high sugar content of Pop.

If we'd all switch to beer, we'd be far better off.

Kirane
Pancake
posted 07-13-2002 02:14:43 PM
Not really talking about people like you Niklas.

I ment people that are blatently to big for their build. People that can barly sit up, barly move, etc.

No one is ever gonna be perfect, there will always be the bigger and skinner version of that 'perfect' build. But some people just need to lose some weight.

I think somethingawful says it best: http://www.somethingawful.com/archives/news-archive-23-6-2002.htm

Arrenn Lightblade
Yes. Yes he is.
posted 07-13-2002 02:23:20 PM
I admit, for my age I am fairly meaty. Butreally, I just have a big frame. I workout out from time to time. I don't have the super model body, but I know my muscles are functional.
Naota Nandaba
Don't ask me about any goddamned bannings!
posted 07-13-2002 02:28:20 PM
I don't ever work out or anything, but I'm 151 pounds and 5' 11". Relatively healty frame. Prolly will change soon
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Only the ordinary.
Gikk
SCA babe!!!
posted 07-13-2002 02:57:45 PM
I'm overweight.

I know I'm overweight.

While I -do- have a heavy bone structure (big-boned, if you will) like my Dad, I'm STILL very overweight.

I'm working, slowly, on loosing the weight. Taking tuna fish instead of eeting lunch at the pretzel place at work..

And since I am walking / standing 8 hours or more a day, exercise is on the upswing. ^_^ Thing is though, i know it's gonna take a long time. and I'm trying to stop eeting binges (ugh), and think of more healthy things.

Weee. =/

very important poster
a sweet title
posted 07-13-2002 03:40:34 PM
I'm 6'0", 80-somewhere below 85kg and 15.

I'm kinda chubby, but I'm starting to work out. Alot.

hey
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 07-13-2002 03:46:03 PM
Some people are genetically predisposed, though. It's not their fault. My mom has a large bone structure, and she's just predisposed to be a bit overweight. Now, granted, she's about 180, and I don't think she's unhealthy at all, but she gets depressed about it sometimes.

She doesn't eat junk, but her metabolism is slow.

I'm a freaking stick. My metabolism is like Mach 2. I eat something, and it's gone, and I have to eat more. I eat leagues more in a day than Deth, although he can eat more in one sitting. I'm constantly munching on things throughout the day, and I had to carry things around in my pocket during marching band or I would pass out from lack of food under all that exertion.

So sometimes it's not eating too much, or lack of exercise. It's quite often your metabolism working against you.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 07-13-2002 03:49:57 PM
quote:
Kegwen 2.0 had this to say about Duck Tales:
I don't ever work out or anything, but I'm 151 pounds and 5' 11". Relatively healty frame. Prolly will change soon

You are INVINCIBLE!#^*$

Gikky pwnz me. kthxla~

Death of Rats
Pancake
posted 07-13-2002 03:57:41 PM
im 5'9", and abouyt 190 lbs, and im considered overweigt, but alot of it is due to muscle, cause i did some heavy weight lifting, and im a bit big boned, so i dont trust those preconvieved notions that if your x hieght, then you have to be y wieght, my pe teacher even said those things dont take into account big bone, or muscle wieght
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Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 07-13-2002 04:11:39 PM
Why yes, I am what would be considered very overweight. That doesnt stop me from getting up and getting around like a normal person, though. Sure, I dont go out and play sports, or do things like that, but hell. I dont enjoy sports. At least not many of them. Football is all I Really like

Sure, I know I need to exercise. But ya know what? Im not a bad person or anything sinply because im not skinny or anything.

Tell me why it matters to YOU if "america is fat", hmm?

OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 07-13-2002 04:14:07 PM
I've found myself getting lighter during the summer too. I'm usually about 185 during school because we eat lunch every day. During the summer I've gone a day at least without anything but cereal and a soda here and there.

I'm 6'2" and down to 170, and I pig out a lot, but am like what Mara described in his post.

..:: This Is The Sound Of Settling ::..
very important poster
a sweet title
posted 07-13-2002 04:15:53 PM
I don't really like Kirane's attitude, even though I'm not obese at all.
hey
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 07-13-2002 04:19:11 PM
Giantt and I agree on something


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

very important poster
a sweet title
posted 07-13-2002 04:20:53 PM
Fuck.

I change my stance completely.

hey
Kirane
Pancake
posted 07-13-2002 04:36:43 PM
If you read, I said I was talking about people that are seriously overweight, not the guy with love handles or the women with a little bit bigger then adverage sized hips. I'm talking about people with health risks, mental issues(depression,etc.)

I just was shocked to see that most country's sterotype us as the 'fat nation' or something to that extent.

I'm not shallow, but looks do matter. I'm not saying a person is the devil because they are fat, I'm just saying.. Why not take care of yourself more? This does not include the people with natural reasons of being obese.

Sorry if I offended anyone, wasn't really ment to be like that.

Freschel Spindrift
Caucasian
posted 07-13-2002 04:37:01 PM
I had a friend in high school who very overwieght. She tried everything to control her wieght, dieting excersizing, but no avail. Then why are you trying to make her look like some kind of lasy slob? Yes there are some peep that overeat alot, but do not put my freind into that lot. Do not prejudge until you know the whole story. Overeating is not the only reason why some peeps are overweight.
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very important poster
a sweet title
posted 07-13-2002 04:41:32 PM
I think what pissed me off a bit was the fact that you are trying to tell people what to do. That doesn't fly well with me, wether intended or not.
hey
OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 07-13-2002 04:42:11 PM
Erm...never mind

[ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: The Otaku Penguin ]

..:: This Is The Sound Of Settling ::..
Gikk
SCA babe!!!
posted 07-13-2002 04:43:04 PM
quote:
Kirane Model 2000 was programmed to say:
If you read, I said I was talking about people that are seriously overweight, not the guy with love handles or the women with a little bit bigger then adverage sized hips. I'm talking about people with health risks, mental issues(depression,etc.)

I just was shocked to see that most country's sterotype us as the 'fat nation' or something to that extent.

I'm not shallow, but looks do matter. I'm not saying a person is the devil because they are fat, I'm just saying.. Why not take care of yourself more? This does not include the people with natural reasons of being obese.

Sorry if I offended anyone, wasn't really ment to be like that.


I am seriously overweight.

I am 5'9, and I weigh ~ 270 lbs.

You can bite me. it's not cause I'm a lazy ass, or don't care about myself or how I look.

It's my life. I'm working on fixing it.

Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 07-13-2002 04:47:29 PM
i think this is best said by what my mommy always told me --

"Keep your nose out of other people's business"

Im what would be called "Seriously overweight" too. 6'0", about 320 pounds. When Im ready to, Ill go and work on losing the weight. Till then, wtf does it matter if I am happy with myself?

Fal

Kirane
Pancake
posted 07-13-2002 04:48:49 PM
quote:
Falaanla Marr had this to say about Robocop:
i think this is best said by what my mommy always told me --

"Keep your nose out of other people's business"

Im what would be called "Seriously overweight" too. 6'0", about 320 pounds. When Im ready to, Ill go and work on losing the weight. Till then, wtf does it matter if I am happy with myself?

Fal


Good point, I will shutup now.

Nicole
The hip-hop-happiest bunny in all of marshmallow woods
posted 07-13-2002 04:49:03 PM
Yeah, I'm overweight. Guess what? I DON'T REALLY GIVE A DAMN ANYMORE. I've spent a large portion of my life thinking I'm a disgusting roll of something horrible, and I'm just sick of it.

If I cut down on junk food, it'll be because *I* want to.

If I excercise, it'll be because *I* think it's fun and *I* want to do it. (and I am getting pool urges again... wondering if I can rejoin that gym and make use of their wonderful uncrowded well-maintained (as opposed to public, overcrowded, filled with lichen and volunteer lifeguards pools) swimming facilities)

Note that I can still get around. Note that I still look HUMAN (as opposed to "gaping hellbeast-like"). Note that I might even appear sexy.

It's my goddamned choice.



I just spent
my last cent
purchasing this poverty.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 07-13-2002 04:51:07 PM
Well, Giantt and I differ there, so he's safe.

I don't like the intolerant attitude toward people being overweight that you took.

That's why I dislike your stance.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 07-13-2002 04:52:13 PM
quote:
Giantt impressed everyone with:
I don't really like Kirane's attitude, even though I'm not obese at all.

I'm inclined to agree with Giantt. I come from a very, very large family. In fact, I'm the only one in my family who is not 230+ pounds. Its not their fault, you know.

Just because someone is overweight doesnt mean they are unhappy. Some people prefer NOT to be the standard weight, and they better like being over. Nothing wrong with that.

America DOES have a higher ratio of heavyweight people than other countries, but ya know what?

Its cause we have a relatively rich economy and we can afford to be fat.

Azakias steps off her soapbox.

People that nitpick about other peoples weight irks me to no end. Its almost as annoying as those skinny toothpick people claiming they're fat.

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
very important poster
a sweet title
posted 07-13-2002 04:53:07 PM
Yeah, intolerance doesn't really fly well with me either, but eh, I can tolerate that (oho, the pun). Telling people what to do = sux0r, however.
hey
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 07-13-2002 04:53:43 PM
OMFG, I'm fat!

*cries*


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 07-13-2002 04:57:01 PM
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about Captain Planet:
OMFG, I'm fat!

*cries*


FLAEMZ0R!@#~!~~

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 07-13-2002 07:36:28 PM
Okay let's get something straight...

My health isn't your business. Anyone's business. So long as I have my own health insurance, I'm not costing you money. The only person who can get on me is my significant other, because I choose to have her in my life. I can even tell the rest of my family to shove off.

And people getting on your case about it will probably just piss you off more if you're overweight. Or smoking. Or drinking. Or have a phobia of something. An individual getting over something like that isn't done for you. Nor should it be. They should do it for themselves, at their own pace, when they're ready. And for no other reason should they do it, you dumbass.

Doesn't matter if the cause is depression (I particularly thought you were out of line including depression in things, Kirane, and I'll get to that in a minute, have no fear), or biochemical (there's medical proof that the body sabotages attempts to diet), or anything else. It doesn't hurt you, back the fuck off. Your relatives don't have to listen to you any more than you have to listen to them. You're not wiser, smarter, or anymore sagelike for being thin, skinny, or in shape, dolt.

Now let's talk about your comment on depression. First off, you stupid fuck, people with depression can't just "get happy" and give up their bad habits. Clinical depression is a biochemical condition. Non-clinical depression can in some ways be trickier and harder to spot. Unlike clinical depression, you can't just shoot medications at it. You have to understand what's wrong, what's stressing them or bothering them or hurting them and you have to find some resolution to it. Start from a base of strength rather than one of weakness, moron.

Furthermore, the attitude "I don't like people being fat, get happy you overweight, depressed slobs" is a really stupid one because accusatory, degrading tones are the last thing you want to throw at people in a fragile emotional state. Idiot.

You may have noticed that I've ended almost every paragraph with an insult. You have have noticed I've scattered them through the commentary I've made. Guess what? That irritation you're feeling at someone who doesn't know you telling you what to do? The guy insulting you who doesn't know you? That's how I imagine a lot of overwight people feel when idiots go sticking their nose where it doesn't fucking belong

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MadCat the 2nd
Pancake
posted 07-13-2002 07:50:11 PM
Amen to what Deth wrote.

I'm overweight. I smoke, and I drink.

And you know what folks? I'm happy. As long as I'm happy, I will keep smoking, drinking, and being overweight.

I can't see why it's anyone's business to tell me what to do. If you don't like obese people, then keep you trap shut. A lot of obese people damn well realise they are, and a lot of them try to lose weight, but can't due to various reasons.

I used to go through some rather wack mood swings. I'd eat because I was unhappy, then I got unhappy because I ate and got fat. Rinse and repeat.

Until I decided that personally, I didn't give a flying fuck what anyone else thought of the way I look.

By God, I'm fat - and proud of it. I like my fat. It's mine.

If I live 10 years less than the average human, so be it - at least I was happy during my life and didn't bow down to the know-it-alls who think they can tell everyone what to do.

In closing, I'd like to deliver a hearty "go away and die, plzkthx" to Kirane. I don't think you realise it, but your statements were DAMN irritating to read, and pissed me off greatly.

"Too often, we lose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and bitch-slap that motherfucker upside the head."

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Pvednes
Lynched
posted 07-13-2002 07:53:42 PM
God damn, Deth rocks. *cheers*
Fizodeth
an unflattering title
posted 07-13-2002 08:17:50 PM
Im just about as big as Fal. 6'0 300 pounds. my pants are 42x30. Im happy as well. I totally agree with Deth on this. Personally I would rather see people being fat than doing stuff their body cant handle to get thin and healthy. Some people are HAPPY being overweight. I know I am. I guaren-damn-tee you if I hadnt weighed 200 pounds in 7th grade I would have been SLAUGHTERED in some of the football games I played. I would have been limping away nursing broken bones. Thankfully, I was what I was and I walked away HAPPY! I had FUN playing football. If I hadnt weighed 280 at the beginning of this school year I guarentee you I wouldnt have made it to the end. Big Fat people != easy targets and no one really messed with me. This is a good thing as just last year there was a stabbing. Kirane, you are Wrong. Not all of America needs to get up and get thin. To put it easy terms to understand, think of an Ogre and Peon from Warcraft 2. Ogre Pastes Peon. Think about it. Granted some of the fat people should go excersize and get healthy, but sometimes they ARE healthy. Kirane, you have no right to judge those that are obese because you may be healthy. It wouldnt look good if I started reprimanding Maradon because he's too thin now would it?

Computer, End rant.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 07-13-2002 08:47:59 PM
*Fizo holds a big, bloody steak in his hands*

<Fizo> Eat! Eat! You are too skinny! It's unhealthy! You need to take better care of yourself! You need some meat on those bones!

*Maradon backs away, shrieking*


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

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