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Maradon!
posted 07-01-2002 02:49:19 AM
Why can't I weapon focus: katana?
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 07-01-2002 02:50:07 AM
Because you are not a 1337 ninja.
Bajah
Thooooooor
posted 07-01-2002 02:51:30 AM
hell, he's not a l33t anything!

Maradon!
posted 07-01-2002 02:58:04 AM
Piss off

I figured it out. Damn, dual wielding katanas is hard...

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 07-01-2002 02:59:49 AM
No fuck. You'll have a hard time hittin' shit if your off-hand isn't light.
Maradon!
posted 07-01-2002 03:35:23 AM
Is it safe to ask why I can't seem to get weapon specialization to show up, or aren't you done cracking wise?

I am a fighter and specialized.

[ 07-01-2002: Message edited by: Maradön² ]

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 07-01-2002 03:37:03 AM
I do not know.
Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 07-01-2002 03:38:10 AM
quote:
So quoth Maradön²:
Is it safe to ask why I can't seem to get weapon specialization to show up, or aren't you done cracking wise?

I am a fighter and specialized.


Show up where?


Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Maradon!
posted 07-01-2002 03:40:40 AM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when The Black Mage... said:
Show up where?

In the feat select list, during character creation.

Or is it something that develops on it's own during gameplay?

Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 07-01-2002 03:42:07 AM
quote:
Maradön² had this to say about Tron:
In the feat select list, during character creation.

Or is it something that develops on it's own during gameplay?


It won't be in the feat list when you're creating a character.

Check the prerequisites. You need a base attack bonus of +4.



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Maradon!
posted 07-01-2002 03:44:52 AM
quote:
The Black Mage... had this to say about Robocop:
Check the prerequisites. You need a base attack bonus of +4.

Oooh, I guess it would help if I knew what a base attack bonus was, or how to get one.

I am so D&D illiterate.

Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 07-01-2002 03:46:16 AM
quote:
Maradön² had this to say about dark elf butts:
Oooh, I guess it would help if I knew what a base attack bonus was, or how to get one.

I am so D&D illiterate.


It's something you don't get at character creation, put it that way.

Just level up a bit, it'll pop up in the feats list sooner or later.



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 07-01-2002 06:37:12 AM
as a fighter, you start with a base attack of +1. it goes up by +1 each level.

Weapon specialization will show up as an available feat by lv 4.

edit: You get a general feat every 3 levels, and a bonus fighter feat every 2 levels.

Fighters get lots of combat feats to make up for their lack of skills.

[ 07-01-2002: Message edited by: Ka'Lourin D'thBlayde ]

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nem-x
posted 07-01-2002 06:48:00 AM
Za’afiel
Coolest Hamster Pimp Ever!
posted 07-01-2002 06:58:33 AM
katana != ninja sword

im anal about this stuff

i like using the basic longsword, or a scimitar

"Consistancy is the hobgoblin of little minds."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Maradon!
posted 07-01-2002 03:03:32 PM
quote:
Hamster Mack Boo's fortune cookie read:
katana != ninja sword

Yeah, it's a Samurai sword, isn't it?

I recall hearing somewhere (it may or may not have been from "Batman: The Animated Series") that Ninja had no honor, and used any means available to them to kill thier target.

Anyway, I spent three hours in character creation last night. How sad is that?

[ 07-01-2002: Message edited by: Maradön² ]

Maradon!
posted 07-01-2002 03:25:06 PM
Also, what's with this "Penalty to AC check" value in the armor I inspect?

For instance banded mail has 6ac and -7 penalty to ac check. Would that mean wearing it harms my ac?

Mightion Defensor
posted 07-01-2002 03:26:55 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Maradön² wrote:
Also, what's with this "Penalty to AC check" value in the armor I inspect?

For instance banded mail has 6ac and -7 penalty to ac check. Would that mean wearing it harms my ac?


I think they're referring to checking made when casting arcane spells. For instance, my paladin has a 95% chance of arcane spell failure. Which doesn't matter since his power is divine.

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 07-01-2002 03:28:19 PM
That penalty is how bad it penalizes armor-reliant skills such as Move Silently and Hide.

For example, if it has a penalty of -7, all armor-reliant skill checks recieve a -7 modifier because the armor interferes. I mean, when was the last time you saw someone sneaking around in full plate?

Mightion Defensor
posted 07-01-2002 03:30:10 PM
It's kinda hard for me to sneak as a pally.... when I see a mob I scream out "Ha ha! That's it for you!"

Blows my cover. Then I hit the bad guy with my sword and they're dead. Problem solved.

Maradon!
posted 07-01-2002 05:10:28 PM
See, due to pavlovian EQ mind training, I instinctively gravitate towards heavy armor where possible, despite the fact that I prefer a "light-armor-giant-sword" roleplay approach.

How good is parry? It sounded like it rocked at first, but then I figured out that it was an activated skill, then it seemed kinda pointless. What's the sense in standing there dodging if the enemy is never going to die?

[ 07-01-2002: Message edited by: Maradön² ]

Lalian Viajante
Pancake
posted 07-01-2002 05:15:33 PM
Weapon specialization is bugged right now and doesn't work for the offhand.
Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 07-01-2002 05:16:41 PM
DO NOT PUT ANY POINTS INTO PARRY.

Persuade I find, is the best skill.



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Maradon!
posted 07-01-2002 05:19:58 PM
quote:
The Black Mage... had this to say about dark elf butts:
DO NOT PUT ANY POINTS INTO PARRY.

So it is pointless then?

It always struck me that parry should be an always-on skill. I mean it's not like you forget how to dodge when you're preparing to attack.

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 07-01-2002 05:21:20 PM
quote:
The Black Mage... had this to say about pies:
DO NOT PUT ANY POINTS INTO PARRY.

Shit.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Maradon!
posted 07-01-2002 05:30:11 PM
I wonder if I could make a sort of necromancer/sorcerer type dude...
Reyolen
Wanders too much for a custom title
posted 07-01-2002 05:30:29 PM
The game seems to want you to know Parry. I find it decently useful if you're a character with low hp and armor using a sword.
Maradon!
posted 07-01-2002 05:32:49 PM
Do you ever do damage while parrying or do you just bounce around like a wimp playing dodgeball?
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 07-01-2002 05:45:17 PM
quote:
Maradön² had this to say about (_|_):
Do you ever do damage while parrying or do you just bounce around like a wimp playing dodgeball?


Parry is an activated skill because you must choose to give up an attack for that round in order to parry that round.

Success by 10 on a Parry check grants you a free counterattack, but not something you can count on.

Being action oriented in gameplay, Parry is next to useless in NWN.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Arttemis the Rogue
Amethyst's sex toy
posted 07-01-2002 05:50:05 PM
The only use I've found for Parry is to block arrows when I advance on archers.
Kennatsu
hu�mor 1. That which is intended to induce laughter or amusement: a writer skilled at crafting humor.
posted 07-01-2002 06:10:38 PM
quote:
Maradön² impressed everyone with:
Why can't I weapon focus: katana?

Um... I didn't read this whole post, but I think first you need the Exotic Weapons feat (Katanas are exotic weapons)

KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 07-01-2002 07:49:10 PM
To further clarify on Parc's statement, that negative on the armor is a dex check. You suffer that penalty to all you dex based skills while wearing the armor.

Got a +10 to your hide skill? ohho.. full plate? now you only have a +1. *clank clankity clank*

As for Parry.. it's rather useful in conjunction with Taunt. hits that may otherwise strike you get blocked, or riposted. Taunt, when successful, lowers their ac and screws with their casting chances.

Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
Hebrew 9:3- 'And the Lord said unto me, "Dude, there isn't a K in covenant."' - Snoota

This beer drops trou and fucks your mouth with pure hoppy goodness. - Karnaj
Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 07-01-2002 07:53:41 PM
KaL: Or you could kill them.

The object of NWN is kill things. Offensively. Not prance around like a new jailmate in the men's shower.

[ 07-01-2002: Message edited by: The Black Mage... ]



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 07-01-2002 08:07:04 PM
to each his own. The character in question relies purely on finesse and dexterity. Besides, if I recall, the riposte counter attacks hit regardless of AC, so long as you beat the roll by 10. an AC I might not be able to hit otherwise in normal combat.
Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
Hebrew 9:3- 'And the Lord said unto me, "Dude, there isn't a K in covenant."' - Snoota

This beer drops trou and fucks your mouth with pure hoppy goodness. - Karnaj
Maradon!
posted 07-01-2002 09:41:16 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Ka'Lourin D'thBlayde:
to each his own. The character in question relies purely on finesse and dexterity. Besides, if I recall, the riposte counter attacks hit regardless of AC, so long as you beat the roll by 10. an AC I might not be able to hit otherwise in normal combat.

I was considering making a guy with weapon finesse, improved parry, and skill focus: parry, adding some two weapon fighting abilities as I leveled.

Wonder how that would work out

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